PHLaggie

no quarrel there. I wouldn't want to live in Sing Sing On The Brazos either.

honestly, i am a bit removed geographically and in the last many months, mentally (got a few other priorities in life ) to remember whether I knew this or didn't, but can honestly say that I didn't recall it during this conversation before it was brought up. And to me, like I mentioned above, it's no skin off my back. If anything, it just goes to make my point, to a degree, that Jimbo has it as good as he wants at A&M and LSU likely will have to sweeten the pot more... especially if they seek Jimbo when their program is in a tailspin.

As NoName said, I think the feeling among the fan base is that Elko is gone after this season if the right job opens up for him. Elko is I think in his early 40s, so it's not like his boat has come and gone and he is "forever" content to stay at DC. Having said that, I have no insider info and no insight into Elko's thinking about his future plans. It would be great to maintain the upswing in D and the stability of having the same D and some of the same D position coaches, and seeing improvement year after year.

Which brings up a good point-- it'll be interesting to see how Mack Brown does at UNC versus how Sark does at UT. I wonder if some at UT will still wish they kept FUPM or they they'd have brought him in now, after he apparently got his head on straight again. Regardless, good to know that you don't think you would be happy to have Jimbo in Austin (and Jimbo, not Mack Brown). So you would be ok to see Jimbo go to LSU and win a championship there...but just be glad to see him leave B/CS?

How does any of that matter to a coach's decision of whether to stay or go? It's not like Jimbo didn't know the program history of A&M when he took the job.

It would seem that A&M bent over backward and gave Jimbo all he wanted in order to get him to move to B/CS. They even funded his staffing needs to the point of being able to afford one of the highest paid DC's. Jimbo would really have to be tired of B/CS or feel he has plateaued out...all outward appearances make it seem otherwise. Sure, LSU has the winning history as a program. But what's the program's situation at the moment they seek out Jimbo? The instability, the stench... seems like a tough time to go there. Jimbo can likely win more there than he can at A&M, if long history is indicator; in the short span, if he wins against LSU this season, he will be what, 3-1 against LSU. I wonder what all points are important for a coach like Jimbo (where he is in his career, the money he has, etc.) when making the decision to stay put or jump for another program. If LSU program has some stench around it for legal wrongdoings, and Jimbo has managed to make A&M relevant in SEC West, I wonder whether he decides next year is the time to move to Baton Rouge. Maybe he does. Then there is also that thing about Elko, and whether he sticks around (likely not) beyond this season. Would Jimbo be able to land another DC he likes, or does he feel that with Elko leaving (and taking some key staff with him?), that he may be best served to leave and end up at LSU? Seems possible; not sure how probable, but is possible.

I asked because I wonder if UT would have wanted to hire Jimbo.

Sure, let them hire Jimbo away from A&M. No skin off my back! I assume that would mean they'll pay him and his staff more than he/they are making at A&M. Salary escalation ladder and what not..

who will win their next championship first, LSU or UT?

I'm so far behind the times. I kept thinking you guys still had that guy on staff who has the twitter thing about shusshing in order to say that you got a (silent) commit or something. I am obviously forgetting his name.

I hear you. I feel that that might make sense for a coach still climbing the ladder. I suppose the only (and obviously very important) reason for Jimbo to bail and go to LSU would be if he thought he could more likely win a ring there than at A&M. Didn't LSU try to land him in the past but he refused? or the timing didn't work out for some reason? If LSU sputters this season and Jimbo has 10 wins, I imagine he would feel just fine staying put. Beyond winning, would LSU be able to buy out his contract or pay him more than he is getting paid right now? Desirability is also in terms of $$, on, especially as Jimbo is in his mid-50s now.

All that fan board crap on Banks is rather funny, considering so many Ags hated to see him go to Bama and thought of him/his special teams coaching skills very highly. Did Banks pick up his stripper dating habit only once he left for Bama? I doubt it. O well. That's the sort of hypocrisy that's funny to witness.

see, that's been the standard narrative on Jimbo and his contract with A&M. Which is why what CTJ wrote makes little sense. Why would he leave the comforts of a 10 year guaranteed deal only to go over to LSU who would be desperate and impatient after having fired Ogre. Heck, Ags are happy just to have gotten into one NY6 bowl game and winning it...that likely bought Jimbo a couple more years of cushion already. His whole take on Jimbo felt off a bit.

who is in the bagman role at UT now? Just wondering. Or you guys don't have any bagmen?

He wasn't there for all 8 of those games. He is responsible for 3. And I didn't say anything about history, but my wording was implicit that if he gets shellacked "again"...meaning, he has been shellacked before. So I don't know what your problem is.

probably because i don't follow those boards. lol i rather come here for a more nuanced take on things.

FWIW, Jimbo put more pressure on himself to win, and win now, by running his mouth off about beating Saban's ass. It's a double-edged sword. It can keep his program "fresh" and maintain the attention of recruits (the life-blood of a program), and if he gets shellacked again in that game, then he could also lose a lot of goodwill. But he is already going into his 4th season... so he knows the timeline.

ok, this started off on even keel but then veers off a bit, IMO. As far as I can tell, UT has been scavenging the transfer portal because it's new staff feels the need to fill urgent holes. And as compared to previous regime changes, this staff is luckier because of the dynamic of more talent doing the transfer portal dance and so there is more talent to pick. Jimbo and A&M likely don't feel the urgency and having established a couple of full cycles of recruiting, don't want to dip into the transfer portal if they can help it. Where they wanted some immediate help, they targeted it-- for the OT. They wanted a different name but I think he ended up at OU, but still got what looks to be a workable starter who transferred from Tennessee. Which other portal targets was A&M seeking desperately or should have been seeking? I honestly don't know. As for Nick Williams-- I have no idea what his qualifications are, but even if he is just a bag man or a smooth talker for on-the-road recruiting trips, that is hardly different from many other programs that employ that sort of a person. Jimbo likely felt the need for one, saw Georgia stacking top notch recruiting classes, and has proceeded to pick a few of the staffers from that program... three by now (Coley, Malchow, and Williams). I just see that as the usual SEC dog-eat-dog... there is a lot of "inbreeding" among the coaches/staff. I'm just glad that Jimbo felt the urgency to act, and got down to business. I just tire of the whole bag man talk. If there are recruiting violations, then lets get those addressed; if there is a whole lot of gray area about these things, then let the game be played and there should be no assumption of some being above board and others being always dirty.

I would qualify, yes. I've not been back on campus in many years so not sure how much it has changed but from reading it seems it has changed quite a bit. I can tell you that when I was in school the student population was still about 85% white, and most of it was suburban or rural. Though of course engineering and hard sciences buildings were crawling with Asians of various sorts even then. I've grown socially conservative SINCE my college years but not when I was in college, so there's that twist, but now it seems the campus is a good mix of liberals and conservatives, which is great. And A&M scores higher with regard to on campus free speech, better than, say, Berkeley for sure. But yea, as far as college sports and shit, I was a 2%-er because I was too busy earning my engineering degree to bother with sports... I had neither the time nor the money to spend. I developed the interest only after graduating and settling in a career. I'd think I'm also one of the few that chooses to move to Philly and live an urban lifestyle. And I'm a minority in many other ways, as well, in practically any room and any situation. That's ok, I'm used to it and am comfortable in my own skin.

off-topic, and sorry about that, but couldn't keep my eyes off the hot model in your profile pic. dang! good choice. and yea, i have no clue about where either of the QB ends up. but i'm drooling over that profile pic.

Peak summer (maroon) Kool-Aid! 🤩 It's almost like the Aggie version of all gas (hot air!), no brakes (because...let the roller coaster accelerate to its peak!)

"Draftable" upper classmen who want to leave should be good for any new regime, I imagine. They're guys of the previous staff and yet them going to the League makes room on the roster for the new staff to work with, and if they do get into the NFL (even via the UDFA route), then that's one more name with your college's brand out there. The extra room can also attract new talent who increasingly wants to see the field early and often.

What is position depth for safety at UT right now? Bryce Anderson likely can't start right away at A&M. But it's all about how the sales pitch is made, I suppose. Again, I think A&M's most impact need is at shutdown corner spot; I sure hope landing Nick Williams from UGa is what's about to pay big dividends in this regard. Having recent ex NFL-pro Antonio Cromartie on staff (along with his version of the "swagcopter"-- remember that!? lol-- doesn't hurt either).

Bear's twitter post during his OV to A&M pretty much said what was going to happen. He had tagged one of his school coaches (guess that's the guy who drove him to C/ST?) who is a Bulldawg fan but his post was that he started from zero and had nothing, and has to make decisions that are right for him. I think it's great to be wanted, and to have your choice of where to go. All this bag stuff is fan board innuendo until proven otherwise.

That's the reason why a lot of the "regular" reporting/newswire type of shit is already automated and has been for a few years now. Computer programs do this job. At least in financial reporting I have seen this happen, and probably in sports reporting too-- for example, in writing out the game summary. Humans probably are now mainly involved with writing fluff pieces or over-arching thematic stuff happening in their particular wheelhouse or (rarely) in the investigative arena.