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Los Angeles was not "open" when the protests happened. In fact, I vividly remember having my first meal at a restaurant in 3 months the day they started, then that night, shit hit the fan, Fairfax was destroyed, and everything was immediately shuttered again, this time with plywood. Anyone who says that mass protests, of which there were many and for days, did not contribute to the rise in positive test results from the younger population here is completely and 100% full of shit. There is no other logical reason for it.

There should be zero doubt at this point that outside spread is extremely minimal. Yet, today we received word that due to the troubling rise in "cases," the beaches will all be closed down again in Los Angeles. As well as the bike paths, because COVID is apparently very fast.

Of course it could be a false positive. Just like everything else in this fucking shit show.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is a decent chance you have already had the virus. This virus has very likely been around the world much longer than anyone initially believed. And if you haven’t had it yet, you most certainly will be exposed to it before the vaccine becomes widely distributed. There was a recent study released that showed this might have been in Spain back in March...of 2019. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science/coronavirus-traces-found-in-march-2019-sewage-sample-spanish-study-shows-idUSKBN23X2HQ

I ain't about to sit there...unless he wears a fucking mask!

Protesters in H-town testing positive? https://www.fox26houston.com/news/houston-protesters-starting-to-test-positive-for-covid-19

I am fine with attending a game with a mask if that's what they say is required. I wear one every fucking day here. Though masks, which have been largely mandatory in Brazil since April, did not prevent the situation they are currently in, so I am also not sure they are as effective as many believe. The health of the players themselves is not the issue. Their age demographic puts COVID and seasonal Flu around the same risk of sickness. The older support staff and older coaches are the ones that would be at risk.

Based on those results, I'd say this is supports having fans in the stands in some capacity. How is an outdoor football game in 90 degree weather any different than 100,000 screaming people protesting for 5 or 6 hours?

Jesus Christ. This is the shit right here....why does questioning Anthony Fauci, a man who has made some dubious assertions throughout the last 4 months, cause you to assume that the questioner is a Right-Wing conspiracy nut? I have no idea if Fauci agrees on that Chinese abstract cited above or not. But he agreed at the time with the now proven hoax article published by Lancet, which calls his judgment into question, and it certainly creates a level of skepticism and frustration about these "studies". This is fact. It is not political, for fuck's sake. Let me put this in hypothetical football terms: if the venerable Chip Brown writes or cites an article taking the position that the entire Longhorn team wants to revolt against a megalomaniac, alcoholic head coach, and publishes said article on the interwebs, which then gets spread and cited by opposing teams as proof of a fractured program...do you immediately agree and take this at face value? Or do you question it's veracity and motivations? Do you assume anyone who disagrees with Chip Brown, ESQ. to be a racist, gun-toting, Alex Jones and OAN watching MAGA fanboy?

What does a scooter crash have to do with keeping those milkers out of the sun?

What the fuck are you even trying to say here? I referenced actual data. Not denying anything. This thing is still a moving target and a shit show, and we don’t know how it’s going to play out. The rise in hospitalizations in Texas is legit concerning. The rise in cases less so, as testing is happening at a much, much higher level. It’s incredible how many people want to ignore any positive information that exists. I still don’t understand why there are two “sides” to this issue. We should all want this shit to end as soon as possible. Yet you are now claiming you have expert insight from living in New Jersey and that Texas is about to turn into NJ/NY. Cool. I want football as much as any of us this fall. I also don’t want anyone to die because of it. All of this information is relevant, positive or negative, and will inform what is going to happen in regards to football. Stop with the fucking “COVID denier” nonsense.

Yes, Texas has experienced a spike in hospitalizations, that's true. Texas appears to be an outlier. Deaths, hospitalizations, and ICU usage Nationwide have dropped and continue to do so.

Just another interesting fact: a friend of mine in Houston told me recently that both his teenage kids tested positive after a contact trace. All are asymptomatic, like the vast majority of teenagers. He said he knows at least 10 people who have tested positive recently in Houston. He has taken multiple tests, antibody included, and is still negative. Then one of his kids retested 3 days later and came up negative. So, the reality is, there are also many people with a "positive test" who don't have COVID. And there are probably people who do have it who tested negative. Testing is not a fucking panacea. They are not 100% accurate either. Hospitalizations and ICU info is far more important: ICU usage is at a new low in the US. Again, this is all positive news.

The virus is not going to magically go away. It has also been around far longer than originally thought, as the Italian sewer study showed it was there in early December, before China ever announced their first case. There is a whole lot of talk about a "second wave" as well. Well what wave are we in now? I'd also like to know, of all these positive COVID tests recently among football players, how many are actually symptomatic? This virus is ubiquitous and it is much less deadly than we were originally led to believe. And that should actually be very good news for all of us.

Or as my mom always said "garbage in, garbage out."

The comparison is the accusation that OAN, with it's pandering piddly platform, is "propaganda" and is therefore dangerous. I think you are giving OAN far too much credit. CNN, however, IS a legitimate organization capable of actual propaganda because they have "journalistic integrity." Their fear mongering throughout this pandemic could not paint that reality any clearer. But this is not a discussion for the football boards, so I will yield my time.

You keep saying this as if you are revealing some kind of secret truth. OAN is a LARP News Channel. They put on airs at trying to look like a legitimate source of alternative News, but they are nothing more than a far-right talking point opinion platform. You know exactly what you are getting if you tune in to watch OAN or seek them out. They are trying hard to be taken seriously, but they are what they are, and that is their shtick. They will never be at the Big Boy News table. They are click-bait fake-news trolls. Conversely, CNN, is also an opinion platform disguising itself as a legitimate source of News. People take them much more seriously than OAN. They are trading on their past when they were a pioneer in 24 hour news coverage. They also mastered the concept of News as Entertainment. They are far more capable of spewing propaganda than OAN could ever hope to. They have done it throughout the COVID-19 pandemic and they are continuing to do it today. The reality is there is really no News source today that isn't biased. People gravitate to whatever fits their own personal world-view and they accept that as News. It is all soaked in confirmation bias. Mike Gundy strikes me as a pretty simple minded fellow. He likely believes whatever he reads to be "the real truth." And it isn't really that different from my friends that watch Don Lemon and believe what he says is truth.

I suppose we will soon be eliminating and scrubbing from our history the "Star Spangled Banner." Francis Scott-Key was a slave owner and a devout racist. He also wrote this song before slavery was abolished. That song has FAR more racist underpinnings than "The Eyes of Texas." The problem is, there is no end to this type of racist apology tour when it comes to the history of the world. You could likely find something racist or horrible in nearly every product, brand, building, town name, etc., if you look deep enough. Hugo Boss was a fucking Nazi that designed the SS Uniform, yet that label is very popular today. Bayer aspirin is one of the best selling drugs in the world, yet, that company also manufactured Zyklon B and encouraged Josef Mengele to test their drugs at Auschwitz. How many Chinese workers have died working to manufacture Apple products? Or Nike and their history of using a child labor force? What are the limits to social acceptance of shitty historical track records? And who is the arbitrator of which historical outrage gets selected for deletion? John Cleese made an funny point the other day: "The Romans enslaved the British for 400 years. Should we be demanding reparations from the Italians?" I understand that we can and should always strive to do better, especially in light of what we know today versus our past; a past full of racism or human rights abuses. But I also wonder where this culling ends?

Ahhh...after the drama of the last few months, Texas Football drama feels like a breath of fresh and welcome air.

Nothing to do with anyone or anything....except unfortunate situations?

You lost me at WHO.

Gotta love the gomers that continue to hold on to this. I mean, it isn't even debatable! That dude has to be a Chin Pubes sock.

You clearly have knowledge in this arena, and I won't pretend to be any sort of an expert. But I do know what a scam artist looks like when I see one, and Dr Sepan Desai of Surgisphere is a classic grifter from the looks of it. The Guardian has done some good journalism on this story, as have others, and the findings are pretty incredible. This shit will be in a documentary soon. And this guy will probably do some jail time. He uses classic unverifiable nonsense terminology like "machine learning" to obfuscate the fact that he probably made up everything in that 96,000 patient observational study. It is not very different than the project he attempted to crowdfund a few years ago, Neurodynamics Flow (A Revolution in Human Evolution!). "Next generation of human augmentation." No wonder his "science editor" at his bullshit company is actually a science fiction writer. And his sales and marketing director is an "adult model." AKA porn. What is truly remarkable is that this one guy impacted global medical professionals and entire countries' responses to COVID-19 research, not once, but TWICE, with his ivermectin preprint as well. It is really an incredible story, pathetic and awful as it is, and it is currently the poster child of this entire COVID experience. Even in the most dire of times, you can always count on sociopathic shitbags to try and take advantage any way they can.

I guess they are just quietly exempting the groups of thousands allowed to march together side by side for the last 5 days. While most are young people, I have seen plenty of obese and higher risk types in those crowds as well. The next 2 weeks are going to be very interesting to watch in regards to COVID response.

This is a pretty significant scandal. Surgisphere appears to be a fucking sham company. The fact that their fake study was ever actually considered real, posted and promoted in a respected medical journal and in fact had global implications on patient care, is frankly terrifying. You can believe what you will about the efficacy of Hydroxycloroquin therapy, and it has become a political football. But a sham study being promoted as fact, by respected medical publications and as a result in the media, is fucking inexcusable.