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riloh05

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  1. have no idea. never been a firefighter, just a teacher. i do know that firefighters are called out for all sorts of things including car wreks, 911 calls/emergencies, etc...
  2. she doesnt have any off periods?
  3. depends... they get 2 off periods, maybe one. i had 2. lunch. so them putting in a "full day" isnt like the rest of the working world. one of my "off" periods was an athletic class that I went to do, so there is that as well.
  4. firefighter works 120 days @ 24 hour shift = 2880 hours worked. teacher works 200 days @ 8 hour days= 1600 hours worked private sector works m-f (250'sh days) @ 8 hour days= 2000 hours worked seems like firefighters are underpaid and work more hours than most folks. that really didnt do much for the teacher discussion.
  5. that's a broad brush your stroking there...what is the incentive for a 5 year to teacher to bust their ass to be great? what if there was a flat salary for being a teacher...57k. + for other degrees masters/phd/etc...5k each. so 62k and max at 67k. how could you bonus, incentivize teachers for more coin?
  6. no my position is i think they are currently slotted correctly for 197 days worked. the data in the tables that show that 10 years into teaching shows that its not financially rewarding based on longevity. what the tables dont show you is what TRS can do for your family in those additional 10 years. none of that has been factored into the pay discussion and it is an elephant in the room
  7. those types of observations come from folks who are not on campus (large district, my only point of reference) and know the roster.
  8. what should a 26 year teacher make? is her job more difficult in year 6 than it is in year 22? is the teacher not teaching the same thing as the year before? i know this is kinda moving the goalpost, but i think it goes hand in hand with the difficulty of just pay teachers more. 50k out of college isnt a bad gig. 55k 10 years into my career tells me i am doing it wrong.
  9. performance is hard to measure from classroom to classroom. example- in a health class i taught i had a kid going to Harvard and one or 3 that are serving time. i taught health, by no means should my pay be equal or more than an algebra teacher.
  10. Those numbers do not state anything about 10 years. do you have a specific example of an aisd teacher that has been teaching in the district for 37 years making less than 48k? or is that you taking the lowest salary- someone who hasnt taken or passed their teaching exam ( i think you have 2 to 3 years to complete). so taking the lowest starting salary and adding on 19k isnt accurate. the salary jumps once you are a certified teacher, but facts you know. i think firefighters are slotted correctly. they are capable of saving lives (part of the job), specialized training, deal with life/death, and and other difficulties...when they are called to work it may be a little bit more difficult than pass or fail.
  11. are those numbers false?
  12. go on about demonstrably false... How much does a Public School Teacher in Houston, TX make? The median annual Public School Teacher salary in Houston, TX is $56,017, as of April 29, 2018, with a range usually between $48,903-$64,669 not including bonus and benefit information and other factors that impact base pay. the $48,903 divided by 200 teacher work days comes to $244 a day. take that into a private sector employee that works 250-260 days= $63k. a teacher is contracted for 187 days, there are 250-260 working days in the private sector.
  13. That is where they are slotted currently per year, if not more.
  14. how much more. what number is it. there are a lot of important jobs. should elementary teachers be paid more than HS? are classes more important than others? should those teachers be paid more? he qualified her, but he made his complaint his own. tl/dr...what are the specific numbers and why?
  15. this is going to come across as insensitive, but these are choices that have been made by you and your wife. why should that burden fall at the feet of tax payers for an increased salary that is by some data pretty accurate. what does the cost of daycare have anything to do with teaching? let me ask this question...when your wife committed to doing her student teaching did she not know how much a pre-k special ed teacher made? what was her expectation? a payroll clerk is paid less than your wife, this is a job that must be done in order to pay employees. it is a job that NEEDS to be done. SOMEBODY needs to do it. MOST people couldnt handle it for very long at a quality level.
  16. I think it is interesting what the number is. for me, if it was an 80k salary I may have hung around. knowing what I know now and my current earning potential there is not a dollar amount that could bring me back to education.
  17. understood. however, having a 50+ day less commitment to the employer has to be a perk that is accounted for. lots of folks take different positions for different reasons work/life balance being one of them. the other point regarding a private sector employee working 250 plus days and earning the equivalent to 60k/yr salary is that those jobs arent readily available across the country. so what is the number teachers are asking for? how can it be supported? it keeps being stated too low, need more- but there is no support to bring the bottom number up besides under paid, and i think they are slotted pretty accurately given the data, the benefits, retirement, and 50+ day less work commitment.
  18. Under Section 21.401 of the Texas Education Code, teacher contracts must be for a minimum of 187 days of service. Under Section 25.081, a school district must provide 180 days of instruction for students.
  19. based on what since you are a not a labor, education, economics person? How much does a Public School Teacher in Houston, TX make? The median annual Public School Teacher salary in Houston, TX is $56,017, as of April 29, 2018, with a range usually between $48,903-$64,669 not including bonus and benefit information and other factors that impact base pay. the $48,903 divided by 200 teacher work days comes to $244 a day. take that into a private sector employee that works 250-260 days= $63k. where do you go from here?
  20. What do you think they should be paid?
  21. What number? I asked Larry what number would have retained his services- no answer. The problem is that a talented teacher being talented in the private sector simply will create a ceiling for themselves by staying in education. So what is the number for higher pay if $50k is the average?
  22. should be and is for some are 2 different stories.
  23. 3 pages later... no data to support a wage increase. we do have a poster who thinks that some one who does more, manages more kids, takes on more responsibility should have the same pay as someone who doesnt take on those additional responsibilities. makes sense.
  24. probably had as much to do with it as hs science lol...
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