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riloh05

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  1. and it wasnt from finishing high school science. the QB of the 9-1 team is probably the pilot of the f22.
  2. the usaf calls random hs grads on their cell to ask them the question or are their qualified folks who have earned the right to answer that question? seems like there are so many f-22 fuel calculating jobs open these days.
  3. there are a lot of life lessons taught in competitive sports at the hs level, not just football. i would believe to the avg student who didnt go into a scientific field, but played sports uses more of what they learned in athletics then what they learned in a hs science classroom- no facts, just my guess. lots of things to learn in athletics...i.e. a learning institution. You must hate Longhorn Football based on your response to hs football coaches.
  4. my father was a very successful basketball coach (now retired). He has his masters which in Texas gets you a $1k/year raise as $500/year for no masters. The most he made is low/mid 70's in his last 4 years...That matters to TRS. The most money he made in his life is the year after he retired. There is no defense of my dad, but more of you have zero idea of what the dynamics are behind a coaches compensation. I am also of not paying teachers more (including if my dad was still teaching). I just havent seen the data to support more money. Lastly, in any decent negotiation real numbers are used, not more or less. All I see is more.
  5. i glanced over it, probably the same way you glanced over the stipend portion. again taking LT, Katy, Allen, et al does not tell the story for the State of Texas...those are high profile programs with more incoming revenue than some district's tax deliverables.
  6. the coach is in sales. if his product is shit = no revenue, short job life. if his product is good = revenue. this is only for football. if a science teacher is shit they could remain employed by the district for years. if a science teacher is great no one is buying a ticket or concessions, the band and drill team arent marching around with their parents in the stands to watch the science teacher excel. not my economics.
  7. and most districts have a policy that the fb coach cant make more than the principal. i will go with my father being in the coaching business for 30 years and my personal experience instead of a one off coach that you want to hang your hat on.
  8. you have to account for the AD salary/principal as well which i suspect is the case with this one off example...There are also campus coordinators for larger districts. if a coach/sport is bringing in significant revenue he should absolutely make more than the science teacher who isnt generating revenue for the district. just like in the real world, revenue producers simply make more than those who are a cost center. pretty simple concept to understand.
  9. You can call it whatever you want... but finding a handfull of football coaches who are supported by the booster club wont give you the story of the thousands of other coaches in women and mens athletics. Also, some FB coaches are the AD which contributes to the salary. Sorr for you to be so wrong, it probably felt better for you not knowing the facts.
  10. they dont get paid more than science teachers. they get paid a stipend of 2k-5k'ish depending on how many sports they coach. so saying that coaches get higher salaries is false in Texas.
  11. Welp, its not and another poster just named a few.
  12. At what pay rate would they have been able to retain you as a teacher. For discussion lets say your salary was 50k...
  13. you think 1-4 is unique to teaching?
  14. Why? What do you think a teacher should be paid on average?
  15. Good point, fantastic actually. My first thread in here I pointed out that I was teaching when a buddy of mine started making some serious coin. That inspired me to look into a different career because what I was doing was not giving me the life I wanted. Then I get shitted on for telling folks to find another career path that allows you to make more coin. I did the exact same thing personally. So what is the argument for more coin? You want it because it is earned/deserved (debatable) or so you can do cool shit that cost more money that you currently do not have access to. I think the truth comes to light with the bolded part you highlighted.
  16. there are 250-260'ish working days in the private sector if I remember correctly.
  17. Take 9 weeks, plus Christmas, Spring Break, Holidays, etc...It is inherently better than the private sector. I am trying to equate a teachers position in the real world that isnt performance based- HR Generalist comes to mind. College degree- $45-50k for a business the size of a school district. I dont think off the shelf teachers with 5-10 years service equals a $70k salary. I think teachers dont understand the private sector and $70k salary jobs arent being handed out as easily as they may think, and that could be a part of the problem.
  18. true. dozen plus years.
  19. if the avg in Texas is $48.5k, what do you think the avg should be? in the private sector- that number hosts a wide variety of roles. in business, $60k+ starts the be laser focused on results/performance. Not everyone is a $100k earner and if the teacher thinks lesson plans and grading are a time suck, try being a $100k+ sales person and the grind that is year in and year out. yelling at clouds with end number makes zero fucking sense. 5k more a year doesnt move any needles. also, if i had kids i wouldnt be relying on state funded institutions to be teaching my kids. they would go private where the dollars and cents make sense- but that is a different conversation.
  20. for the most part voters vote on bond offerings, some pass and some dont. i would personally argue that teachers are slotted correctly with their pay for the most part. Until performance/accountability are brought into their world then I cant justify more money being thrown at them. I also have zero kids. Regarding performance/accountability- that is almost impossible to measure, unfortunately. Take 100 teachers from a high school I would bet 30% would fail in the private sector (be fired or riff'd), while those same 30% would carry a long tenured career in education and even become principals, etc... Where does this stop...It could be argued that social workers deserve the same if not more than teachers, but are yet very underpaid. Also, social workers know, just like teachers what they are getting into regarding the pay. Dont like the way the business pays, move to a different business. Lastly, there are ways for teachers to improve their income- stipend for bus duty, lunch duty, d-hall, test administration, etc...I dont know how many of my ex-colleagues would bitch about their pay but never showed up to make additional coin.
  21. I am not smart enough to have any of the answers nor do I think there is one specific answer. Garbage is your word, important is my word regarding family dynamic.
  22. but black...Some seem to think the color of your skin limits your opportunities today in this country. I would also lament that it solidifies how important the family dynamic is. So...if there are a lot of moving parts you can zero in on family dynamic for cause/effect. Sorry the dumbfuckery is lost on you and doesnt help certain narratives.
  23. ex teacher/coach here... i got out of teaching when a buddy of mine who i didn’t think had much snap started to bring home some serious coin... i asked what he was doing and he said, i am in sales...i wanted that. So i started applying for sales jobs. Dozen years later i have never looked back. So teachers... want more money, go get a job that pays what you think you are worth. Go get paid on actual performance. You knew what the job paid when you were doing your student teaching. Based on what i do now and what i was bringing home as a teacher/coach- i don’t think more money solves the issue and in the private world they are probably slotted in the correct salary/earning potential.
  24. jfc...i have never heard of a drug dealer slinging drugs...i know of drug dealers slangin dope. #nocred
  25. wtf is a tshirt on isla...tank tops, shitty ones you make fun of. one nice outfit??? need to re-calibrate your ole ladys expectations.
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