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The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
This..... Cowherd has no sources and never has.... He's commentator, not an insider or reporter and never has been. I mean the deal at one point had 2 firsts and Knecht, who was a first himself and dude couldn't close that. Laughable. Maybe ownership is involved but there's professional pride and even if you're in a closet with an alligator, you still try to come out with as many limbs as possible. -
The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
Look, there's some large sized assumptions you have to make in your implications, but I'm not going to defend the Adelson's or Dumond's. If you think they're terrible people who are looking for leverage to bring gambling to Texas (a goal way before they had any idea of the Mavs opportunity) OR pick up their toys and go home to Vegas with the organization in tow, then you have only a few groups to blame..... First, them for deliberately lying and fraudulently trying to build relationships amongst business owners in the DFW area. Second, Mark Cuban...... who, heavily rumored to be leveraged for his own problems, either mistakenly or haphazardly sold the team off to such vultures. The league and other governors for taking the family in good faith because they presumably know this family and because they are "part of the in crowd", the ownership change was approved so quickly. All of that said, moving a team is actually kind of difficult and actually requires taking short-term cash flow losses and damaging the brand and the actual value of the product, especially one with good economics like the Mavericks. And failure would necessitate another sell which would be unbelievably embarrassing for said group (Remember the Maloofs?) But anything is possible. Ha. This is a fantastic point. Exactly..... this will be a good and painful litmus test for Dumond...... Yes, trust your basketball people.... to a point. If you don't know what the fuck you're doing, then ensure you have counsel and always verify and check in on management. -
I do not, but I'm sure some of this will be dictated by the next 15-20 games. And if Paul decides he'd rather chase a ring late and the Spurs are out of the playoffs, then good luck to him. I don't care.
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San Antonio Spurs 2024-25 - Alien: Resurrection
Patrick Bateman replied to Mitch Cumsteen's topic in Basketball
#4. Already bobbing and weaving.... https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1886574355217252588 -
The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
It's been reported Harrison negotiated the deal by himself and then took it to ownership, almost surely to Patrick Dumont, the Mavs' governor. He laughed at Harrison at first but Harrison laid his case and owernship, after some semblance of evaluation I presuppose, allowed him to do it and signed off. Now, could this be some made up story and Dumont and family demanded Harrison sell Luka as the beginning of a small set of dominos for a long game of moving the Mavericks to LV in several years? Sure. Is it the most likely story? Probably not, but we live in a conspiracy theory world, so possibly. It's not the story they're selling right now though.... I've been rewinding that exchange in my mind. It was terribly disrespectful but Finley, but most of us laughed it off. Could an underlying reason the Mavs wanted to move on was they knew or felt Doncic had a drinking problem? Exactly.... I think Lowe went over that on his podcast. Now you have sign the terrorist Kyrie Irving to make all of this work and rely on him to be the leader of the team??? I'm sure that will go swimmingly. -
Chris Paul is on a 1 year deal. He may be playing the last 30+ games of his career. The Spurs were extremely transparent with what his role was and he certainly knew a move like this was not only possible, but hopefully likely. The Spurs traded their backup PG in Jones so they obviously feel CP3 will move to the bench, probably play a few less minutes but still have a very large role in hopefully getting the team into the playoffs and getting them some experience. If Paul wanted to move on, I'm sure the Spurs would accommodate him.
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The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
Going to leave this here. Because we're all smarter listening to this guy...... https://x.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1886245748947202446 -
The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
I'm not trying to piss on your pity party. Again, I empathize. But why the fucking Lakers? Can we all agree, this was the fucking worst? At least we sent Kawhi literally to a different country. Trade Luka to the Hornets or Pacers or the fucking Kings.... but not the Lakers. Fuck that shit. Hope it gets better, Mav guys. -
The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
Well you can't expect every team to be so incompetent, but yea, it does burn you up when you have to pay market, or even wholesale prices when there's a special needs guy out there giving shit away. The French detest American beaches..... they laugh at them. And they don't know what the fuck to do with alligators. Not used to fucking dinosaurs. Good one. The Kareem trade was pretty bad IIRC. I said with fucking authority!!!!! -
The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
Go home, gsoda3, you're drunk. Let the pain in..... it'll continue to fucking stir in your gut for years..... reads like it's already gotten to your brain. Agreed. Well said..... makes it worse. The Spurs were held up by the appetite and let's face it, deviousness of a dumbass uncle and dumbass player; you guys shot yourself in the dick with a fucking bazooka. This started because a Spurs fans was trying to empathize and infantile Mavs fans wanted to stomp their feet and let every know how stupid they are when it comes to basketball. You didn't..... you get it. I like the cut of your jib. LOL. I mean.... immensely. Dude is special on one side of the court, but he's a "generationally" bad defensive player. He also is very difficult to win with because of his style play as he was a ball stopper. Other teams have tried with these type of players and failed (Harden, Barkley, Westbrook, Iverson), especially the ones who weren't very good at defense too. He's special if you needed a bucket. He's special if you need an offensive juggernaut and he can almost single handily keep you in any game, but yes, he's a very flawed player. He will be very difficult to construct a championship team around especially perennially. But ultimately, this wasn't what you wanted if a Mavs fan. Not like this. Not when it was your organization's stupidity to do so poorly in a trade. Not when your team chose to do so terribly. Not when the mistake was so pronounced and self inflicted. I empathize and sympathize with them. Walking the desert is no fun. I suspect they have until next June and then that sun is gonna get hot and that sand it going to get uncomfortable. Nothing to do but shake your head and understand it sucks. And to bail out the Lakers to boot? What a fucking disaster. -
San Antonio Spurs 2024-25 - Alien: Resurrection
Patrick Bateman replied to Mitch Cumsteen's topic in Basketball
Basically the best pick they gave up was the one for Dillingham in 6 years. Here it's broken down: The Spurs got De'Aaron Fox while sending out four firsts. One is a Hornets first that will convey into two seconds. One is a Bulls that is probably never going to convey. And another is one of their own in 2027. The only of value they sent out IMO is the 2031 Wolves pick. They still have a lot of good picks left for future moves. -
And a lot of picks..... A couple of firsts and a lot of 2nds because of conveyance..... This seems right: https://x.com/YossiGozlan/status/1886229199037620467 The Spurs got De'Aaron Fox while sending out four firsts. One is a Hornets first that will convey into two seconds. One is a Bulls that is probably never going to convey. And another is one of their own in 2027. The only of value they sent out IMO is the 2031 Wolves pick. They still have a lot of good picks left for future moves.
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San Antonio Spurs 2024-25 - Alien: Resurrection
Patrick Bateman replied to Mitch Cumsteen's topic in Basketball
Full trade: Full trade: Spurs: De'Aaron Fox, Jordan McLaughlin Kings: Zach LaVine, Sidy Cissoko, three first round picks (2025 CHA, 2027 SAS, 2031 MIN), three second round picks (2025 CHI, 2028 DEN, 2028 own back) Bulls: Zach Collins, Tre Jones, Kevin Huerter, their own 2025 pick via SAS As much as I can decipher..... Spurs gave up 2 first rounders and couple of 2nds???? I may be off. -
San Antonio Spurs 2024-25 - Alien: Resurrection
Patrick Bateman replied to Mitch Cumsteen's topic in Basketball
Zach Collins traded...... now we got a win-win!!!! J/K. Tre gone too. Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes · 2m Sources: Spurs are sending Tre Jones and Zach Collins to Chicago. - Kings are sending Kevin Huerter to Chicago. - Jordan McLaughlin is going to San Antonio with Fox. -
San Antonio Spurs 2024-25 - Alien: Resurrection
Patrick Bateman replied to Mitch Cumsteen's topic in Basketball
It's going down...... Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes · 58s Kings are trading De’Aaron Fox to the Spurs in a three team deal that lands Zach LaVine in Sacramento along with three first round picks, league sources tell @ChrisBHaynes . -
The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
How about talking to more than 1 or 2 teams for fuck's sake? Frankly, if an executive at my company did something clearly this moronic, there would hopefully be protocols to catch said decision and unwind them. But even if there wasn't, this would cost them their job. Maybe not immediately but within 9 months they would be gone. It'll be interesting to see if Harrison survives this. He shouldn't. Not opening up the trade talks to more teams to increase competitive offers is a fireable offense right away and borderline intentionally undermining of enterprise value. Think about it beyond the terrible trade in basketball terms, the Mavericks just hurt and reduced their enterprise value last night, by probably 20%. It's business suicide...... or a mark of a much more insidious long-term plan. -
The Worst Trade in NBA History: Luka traded for AD
Patrick Bateman replied to Derka's topic in Basketball
Frankly, even #2 wouldn't make it make sense because they're going to be so bad in 2-3 years. If we don't get a Watson story or some sort of personal scandal then this is simply the worst trade in modern NBA history..... and they're have been some really bad ones in the past. -
Who’s more likely to make the hof? Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts?
Patrick Bateman replied to closetohumping's topic in Football
Neither is the answer but mainly because no QB has been inducted with such short careers since like Sammy Baugh. Allen has 7 years. Hurts has 5 years. So if they both retired after the SB, neither would make it but Allen is much closer than Hurts. He's a much better passer with double the passing TDs, almost double the yards, TD% is a full point ahead and he's had multiple years of 30+ passing TDs and 4 years of 4k+ passing yards. Hurts hasn't reached either of those plateaus. After the season, Allen will have 4 top 5 finishes for MVP, Hurts will have 1. Even with a SB win, unless he goes stupid like scoring 6 TDs and winning a game in the last seconds, this isn't relatively close. Allen is way ahead of Hurts right now. Hurts is a solid QB on a really good team. Allen is an elite one on a decent team. Buffalo without Allen wouldn't make the playoffs. -
He's turned around Zona's run game without the benefit of a ton of first round picks (1 Humphries who was probably overdrafted). This is a good hire for running game specialist. Fuck that. Choice should stay at Texas if he knows what's best for his career unless the plan has always to go to the pros. Texas will enjoy success and winning, Dallas will not. Hope Texas opens up the purse strings a little on this one. Where's Robert Wagner when you need him......
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The issue with BS isn't calling plays per say, its he's traditionally been a bad play caller too. Way too conservative with little to no creativity. He talks a big game but nowhere has he walked a big game. He also is a big company guy. He just came out in praising the HC hire and talking up how having some sense of continuity in the building makes his life easier. Definitely the type of guy who gets up to EVP who's just a corporate schill while still being pretty decent at his job.
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Well put. He's very old and relies more and more on Stephen to run the club from a day to day perspective. Jerrah just likes the camera and microphones, but he does less now than he ever has in terms of dictating the future of the Cowboys. While I understand the first point, I truly don't understand the 2nd. We just hired a JAG assistant, so are you saying, we're ahead of the game because we didn't hire a hot-shot young assistant? Guys like LaFleur or O'Connell or Ryans? This cycle it would have been Ben Johnson with maybe Glenn behind him. So, we're better off not taking our shot on a good young mind and gunning for mediocrity, tops? My issue is besides maybe Jimmy (which wasn't objective either), we've actually never gone the hot-shot young coordinator or college coach in any real objective way. It was always someone who was part of Jerrah's pretend family or a recycled old coach. I truly would be curious to see an actual objective head coach search, we haven't had one in 60 years. Of course not, it's still a old white boys club. Marty was actually a very good coach. Everywhere he went, he turned around organizations and they won, he just could never get over the hump. His son is a more charismatic, less intellectual, less instinctual version of his old man. Nice enough guy to float around the club and have a spot, but no one really every thought he may get a seat at the head table, because his resume' is so shitty. This was the strangest of hires. Guess he thought he'd get 2-3 years traction. https://x.com/WerderEdNFL/status/1883576518078517520 Maybe Witten sees all the turmoil and says...... I'm good. https://x.com/NickHarrisFWST/status/1883245648365158656
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Ice or Mr Iceman, I apologize, I thought you were just being difficult, but it's become clear, you simply don't understand how the shell game works in the NFL. If any of my posts came off as pithy, it's because I've posted many times in this thread and years back around how to understand the economics of the NFL and specifically the Cowboys and how the Jones' have intentionally and let's face it, successfully, duped the fanbase into believing they're trying so hard but just can't get around the salary cap and therefore, it's not their fault..... they put the best team on the field that money can buy. This is a farce and in reality, the Cowboys have turned into one of the cheapest teams in the NFL the last half dozen years (most of this is Stephen's influence). Specifically, if we want to tackle this subject, there's a few things to understand. When the latest contract extentsion was hammered out with Dak (late and foolishly by Stephen FTR), it was built to allow the Cowboys to move money around the contract using common or standard restructures to create salary cap room at the team's behest..... not Dak's. Dak obviously signed off on giving up this power because he (and his representation) understand it isn't going to have an deleterious effects on his money or his timing of him getting his money. In fact, it's only improves his situation. It also allows the organization to theoretically create some cap freedom to improve the team. Dak signed on to being able to create flexibility in his contract for Stephen's use. I have no idea why twitter embed no longer works this way, but this link reviews the automatic conversion clause is Dak's contract: \https://x.com/TheRealDA_Lee/status/1882910605411254618 This link goes into high level the possible amount of salary cap (based on salary cap projections) the Cowboys front office could create for 2025 using this automatic conversion clause: https://x.com/corryjoel/status/1879180662504366176 What is a standard restructure: https://www.newsweek.com/how-restructuring-nfl-contracts-works-1875079#:~:text="A typical contract restructure is,dead money into future years." Now the choice is Stephen's and while the contact was built to be restructured, because of the way the 2024 season went down and because of Dak's injury, he may see this as a perfect opportunity to do very little restructuring at all, and then shift the blame to Dak if they want to create less "dead money" in the future (when the salary cap is expected to be well north of 300m) and cut him in 2-3 years. Remember, they did something similar but not as drastic last contract and ended up paying up like fools. They may end up in the same boat although Dak's health will dictate this. Understanding what the media leverage points are: https://x.com/ChrisSmithUSN/status/1883007079658729936 Seeing how they did this in the past: https://x.com/CapologyDept/status/1636039237245059076 Now, is there a downside to restructuring? There is, as you're pushing out accounted cap space into future years, when you expect the cap number to go up.... which it has precipitously. Example, the salary cap in 2021 was about 185m so a 40m cap hit that year was roughly about 21.5% of the cap. You push it out 2 years, the cap was about 225m with 40m then taking up about 17.7% of the salary cap. The salary cap because of TV revenues continues to escalate at an extraordinary level and teams understand this and project and push out money accordingly. It's how teams like the Eagles or the Rams or the Vikings or the Lions or Chiefs can have highly paid impact players at almost every level (have to draft decently). They all do it a little different but all of those franchises, while having to navigate tough cap waters, continue to spend money and put good teams on the field. In conclusion, it's important to remember that this is all Stephen's decision..... whether Dak counts 90m this year or more like 52m in cap space for this year. It was meant to be restructured but a terrible season and a lot of media criticism tends to make Stephen's tiny balls shrink up into his chest and he may be lookijng for a scapegoat.
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Bro, the contract was built to be restructured. Always. If you don't like restructuring contracts, then blame Stephen, but there is no reality in which Dallas ever had any intention to pay 90m in one year.... https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2025/1/24/24347393/dallas-cowboys-slaray-cap-space-2025-extensions-restructures-dak-prescott-ceedee-lamb-micah-parsons#:~:text=Dak Prescott (2025 Cap %3D %2489%2C896%2C666,option to add void years).
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