LTbear

I think most see it this way. I'm very much looking forward to the new Big XII. Damn, Colorado is out.

Dude this is a really long post to get hung up on terminology. TCU doesn't want to help elevate SMU in any way, competitively or financially. But yes, they're pussies for taking that approach.

I left in the relevant part of your post. Personally, no, I wouldn't watch a top 16 league. My college football fandom is tied to regionality, rivalries, and the craziness and pageantry that is unique to the college game. There's no way to get 16 teams that feels at all regional, and you'd have also necessarily cut off most rivalries (a few big ones would remain, for sure - OU/ UT, UM/ OSU, etc.). But you've also completely neutered the potential for the holy-shit upset wildness that makes college football so, so much more damn fun than the NFL (think Purdue beating the shit out of Ohio State in the Tyler Trent game), not to mention the fun-as-hell pageantry of the smaller schools (the absolute mayhem of College Gameday opening at WSU with several hundred crimson flags flying). I love that shit. I completely understand if people would watch the 16 team league, it's just not for me. It would be nothing but a watered-down NFL, and I already watch Dallas play on Sundays.

I like how they tweeted this out before they could even think up a name for that god awful final pod.

Would have whipped out my own camera even if that was my own wedding without thinking twice

Set up a competitive spelling bee big guy, we'll wipe the floor with you fuckers

I'm so confused

So do we close down this thread now?

I think Wilner said the same and I have no idea what they're talking about. Every PAC school should still be receiving their distributions for this year. I feel like one of them (probably Canzano) just randomly thought to himself "hey they're all leaving that means the ones who are left get to keep all the conference payouts for the year" while drunk. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I feel like Louisville and Pitt are very realistic/ neither is valuable enough to the B1G or SEC. Getting NC State or Va Tech would be awesome. If Duke, good lord what a basketball league.

I don't intend it that way. Just pointing out I'm speaking from experience, not drawing conclusions from afar.

Oh what BS. I have three degrees, have taught at 5 different universities, and also did a two year fellowship at Stanford. Cal had the best/ most invested professors I've ever seen. How they did all the research while teaching at such a level is beyond me.

Wait, does Elmer Fudd offend somebody?

IF things get divided up like this, hell yes. We've been playing OSU annually for as long as I've been watching football. Screw UH.

Good on ya sir.

So where is that USC poster who spent the last several weeks writing book-length posts about how "the Zeros" aka "Eugene Community College" would "never" get into the B1G?

Scheer is reporting WSU and OSU are offering to cut their share and give it directly to UO/ UW.

I can't believe UO and UW would actually turn down a B1G invite if they can see beyond 5 years into the future. Perhaps this is UO and UW looking to gain some tiny bit of leverage with the B1G (give us more travel money), perhaps its Apple throwing out one more sweeter (but still bad) deal, perhaps its ASU/ OSU/ WSU leaking positive remarks in a last-ditch effort before the final PAC meeting this morning.

ASU insiders reporting that the ASU president is "being a pain in the ass" and dragging things out while the BOR and entire AD want them to go Big XII. Of course said ASU president was also slobbing on Larry Scott's knob til the bitter end.

I can tell you this couldn't be further from the truth. Cal has understood the severity of the situation since the day USC and UCLA left and have been exploring every possible option. There's just not many.

Just do what the B1G does - no arbitrarily forced number of perma-rivals, just whatever is a legitimate rivalry is protected. Makes scheduling a bit more complex but much better.

Montana, an FCS school, gets attendance at or near WSU and OSU (23,000 - 25,000 vs average 26,000 and 31,000). That said, still sucks. Back in the day the PAC 10 was awesome. Every single school had a natural in-state rival, with a couple of additional rivalries scattered about. I know many of us are just to old man yelling at cloud stage, but I really miss college football that focused on regionality and rivalries, including the smaller teams, because damn how awesome was it to see stuff like the 1967 "Giant Killers" of OSU or a 2002 WSU team win the PAC (or a Pirate-led WSU team reach 11 wins). I will miss that shit.

A diversion made by FSU? I'm not following what the goal would be.