Nowhichski

He is clearly not Mensa whatsoever. In fact, he seems to be Densa. The association of IQ and Turtle Tom is one of the greatest lies ever perpetrated on a fanbase. Someone truly intelligent would have figured this shit out.

This is correct. In his last season, Colt’s line was a joke. He was getting hit within 3 seconds most plays. His sheer accuracy and perseverance was the reason behind success that year.

It's a special time of year, coach firing season.

Well, we know the ethics are shit in college football. It's all about optics and raw power. I agree, if you want to run with the big dogs you just pay top dollar for the best. Still, I can imagine it's tough to announce with 21,000 other employees and during challenging times. But you're right. Football is a different animal, and you just say f it. Now, if it's not UM, do you pay the next schmo more than Herman? Not many out there command it.

All good points in answer to this, and believe me, I'm fine with private money funding this ridiculous carnage. And I also agree Urban Meyer pays immediate dividends. The optics in these socioeconomic and political times are bad no matter what, but I agree that's the price of the arms race in college football. You make a mistake like Tom Herman not once but twice (hiring him, then extending him---and I understand all the dynamics around those two decisions, which did not seem ill at the time) and it's going to cost you. Will Herman on CDC's resume as a massive blunder too? I listened to Scipio's podcast about the history of Texas coach hires and he made a good point that with very few exceptions Texas has hired well below the echelon at which a program of this supposed rank should be shooting, showing a major disconnect between who the admins perceive us to be and how we are perceived. That includes Herman. Of course, the list of proven program builders is ... two? (Saban and UM?) Beyond that you have to get lucky, I guess. The trick is evidently not Xs and Os but the complex task of program management at every level. Herman preached alignment, but ... On that note, can Mack be considered a program builder? Can Pete Carroll? Stoops and Meyer built juggernauts that have lasted beyond them, but the universities were wise enough to put the right person in charge. Though Mack has produced a UNC team that's higher ranked than Texas this year, Mack's UT program collapsed before he left. Carroll left as the building was imploding. Swinney impressively caught fire in a bottle.

Anyone know the record for the largest buyout in CFB history? $15 mill is a disgusting amount. I know there's a lot at stake with stadium renovations, bodies in the stands, etc. But that sum is a huge hole to start out in. Not to mention the optics of paying someone 15 to go away while paying someone else 12 are equally bad.

Use the middle of the field! So much easier than working the edges and people always get open. don’t understand the insistence on tough throws to the outsides

Incredible. Like the cockroach, a survivor. Must have something on Mensa.

Did Casey Horny survive the purge? Is he still on staff?

Is Yancy remaining at strength and conditioning coach? There was some talk later in the season that he had played a part in some of the discord that helped derail the season. The suggestion was that he had lost the trust of some of the players. Anyone have any insight on that situation?

Let's get this to 1000.

There's going to be a lot of fired coaches in the NFL this year too. So, given the paucity of options in D1, I wonder if we'll see some trickle down, not that it's necessarily a desirable thing. Innovation seems to trickle up these days, and I'm not even sure if NFL coaches at the college level are as big a draw to recruits as they used to be.

Harrell could be looking at being head coach at UT in 2 years! Or, I suppose, at USC too.

Thanks. So, comfort hire. Such a long history together makes the "Mehringer slagging off Herman" to other coaches slightly less credible. But maybe not.

Take me back. Why exactly did Herman bring Mehringer in in the first place? Where did that hire come from?

It would seem Orgeron is playing Meyer's game now, muddying the water about which assistant calls plays. It's smart, playing a tactical advantage: makes hiring away one's assistants all the more difficult.

Herman clone, said to be quite dickish, hated over a very horrible 3 year stretch at Rutgers, where he only won 3 games and sewed discord and contempt. Fired mid-season. Never was a full DC at Ohio State and otherwise only coached at Arky and Wisconsin.

Exactly this. Besides the other dumbass moves, it's really the hiring decisions which indicate severely sub-Mensa judgment. Lots of hackles were raised in brining in Beck (less so Orlando, IIRC). But Mehringer was derided. And Horny genuinely upset people. These were the kinds of decisions—with the power and checkbook of the UT brand behind him—that helped get him labeled a tone-deaf asshole and clearly led to his precarious current situation. The question is why make them? I think he made better hires at UH, though within the narrower parameters accorded by that program.

This is true. But he could at least be an entertaining, confidence-inspiring asshole. Rather, he's a tweaky, smug, thin-skinned one.

I don't see how Ash could really be in consideration. Dude is toxic. "Rutgers football fans and alumni deserve the apology, because the episode crystallizes everything wrong with Ash — and illuminates what Hobbs must do next. Ash came into town thinking he knew everything. In fact he knew nothing, because he possessed zero ties to New Jersey and had zero experience running a college football team. Instead of approaching the job with an open mind because of these obvious resume gaps, Ash came east dripping with hubris. The result was a tenure that produced consistently embarrassing results despite unprecedented resources pouring into the program. Although it’s un-Rutgers like to fire a coach midseason absent a scandal, Hobbs had no choice. Ash’s ineptitude was overshadowing the many good things happening on the banks — ranked teams in women’s soccer, men’s soccer and field hockey, a powerhouse wrestling program, improving men’s hoops and state-of-the-art facilities rising left and right. "https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2019/09/29/rutgers-football-why-chris-ash-failed-and-what-pat-hobbs-should-learn-for-the-next-hire/3813549002/

I can buy it. For one, there's the possibility of growing up on the job. Being able to fire your friends and hand-picked colleagues equates to one such step. If he $#@!s up this next round of hires, it's over. Second, the money. TH will make $6.5 million in 2022 and $6.75 million in 2023. I don't think UT wants to be the kind of school like A&M that is willing to go to (extra) absurd degrees to pay coaches or to be on the hook for heaps of dead money. It's just not a good look for the flagship university, which holds itself in high regard and is expected to be a lot of things to a lot of people. He gets one last chance to get it. And if he fails, it's over.

I think it has to be a relatively drama free year too, in which at least we show upside. We need to soundly beat every team we're expected to and show real competence. Squeezing by inferior competition isn't going to do it. CDC knows, as does every single fan, the signs of a healthy program--execution in all three phases, trouncing inferior opponents, competing squarely against equals and betters, and happiness of players. If we don't see these, I think CDC would be willing to move on, even with a 9 win season. It seems fairly well established that TH is a dick that not many people like. He certainly doesn't exude the kind of charisma that usually goes along with being at the head of a major FBS program, which, as we all know, is as much politician and leader as it is management and football IQ. I bet CDC recognizes the inherent weakness involved in keeping an unlikeable, technocrat coach at Texas. And if there isn't dramatic improvement, not only in record but in eye-test, we could see a change.

Big step going with the unproven Lake as the HC.

Talk about not setting the edge. Jeez, Michigan must have been getting advice from Orlando.

I watched UW try it on three separate 4th and shorts in the same game this season, and it failed each time. Only thing stupider than using it in the first place is going back to it over and over when it's been proven to fail.