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This is the way I see it as well. And if they lose one of the Kentucky, Ole Miss or Arky, they will probably win one of the Miss St., LSU or SC. 6 seems like the best guess number. I don't see 8 in any way shape or form.

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I waffle on whether to be upset with our lack of recruits (or the missing out on certain recruits, Leal, Wilson, etc.) and having an "all is well" attitude. Realistically, I know that this class isn't done and what happens to finish out this class is going to define it. I do like the base and I like where we are being able to take 10-12 more commits. I just hope the season matters to some of these guys and that if we kick some ass on the field some minds are going to change. I don't think I can go through another disappointing season regardless of how it affects recruiting so I won't even go there.

Nail meet head. At $75m time is more limited. Jimbo realistically has 4 years to a 9 win season and 5 to a 10 win season. But to watch the dashed expectations over the next few years from the homers is going to be glorious.

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I don't disagree with any of that. But look how far you had to go to get there. Kids need to be excited to come here. Until Herman proves he can get close to the win totals he was having at UH getting top level recruits is going to be hard. I hate playing the "if" card but IF we had won even two more games last year I think Herman and staff would find it a hell of a lot easier to get the kids to buy what they are selling and where they are going. As it stands he is asking the kids to buy on faith. I don't think Jimbo is going to be successful at aTm, even with a solid recruiting class this year. Right now kids are buying Jimbo's shtick on faith. But I also don't think walking into a kids living room and explaining to a kid why Jimbo will likely not be successful in the SEC when you yourself have not been successful at Texas gets you anywhere. Right now Texas is the harder sell. When Jimbo's 6-6 or 7-5 over the next 3 years his bullshit will start getting old. We need to show huge improvement this year or we will be gnashing our teeth again next year. Hell, if we really show improvement this year we may be able to flip some of these guys but we better show a big improvement.

I just think we are a harder sell right now. Even at Houston Herman had a winning football team. I don't think anyone can gauge just how badly losing to Maryland, Tech and even Kansas the year before hurt this program. ou is winning the conference and in the top 4. aggies get a new snake oil salesman. Fisher has kids buying in, but that is easier to do when you aren't defending your failures in the kids living room. I still think kids want to come to Texas but we are a hard sell in the current environment. If we can beat some top teams and not stumble against mediocre competition I think we will see recruiting turn in our favor. The kids know our record the last several years. I am sure it is pointed out repeatedly by our competition. They have seen what this team has done. Herman is going to have to show significant improvement before we earn the trust of these kids. Jimbo is going to face the same thing after they go 6-6 or 7-5 the next two years. The bloom will be off the rose by the end of 2020. With recruiting success breads success.

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I think OU's success in recruiting right now is a reflection of recent winning. The ags are going to get recruits until they lose in year 3 of Jimbo's reign. He will get a pass the first two years because of their schedules but if he doesn't win in year 3 the recruits are going to not buy the bullshit he is selling this year and will be selling next year. That is not to say we should sit idly by and not fight for recruits like Leal. Also keep in mind we have at least 10 -12 more spots to fill. Let's see who we get and who the ags and OU keep come signing day. I'm not convinced things are a bleak as some.

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Same here and SAME HERE!

I was there too. About 12 of us. Guys only. The walk to the hotel room (no way to get a ride) was horrible. Saw several fights after the game but they were all osu v osu.

I feel your pain. I have it even worse. Mine is going to Aggie in two weeks. Thanks UT admissions.

Memorial and Beningnus was my guess.

Pic or not. Its not that he chose another school. It's how he chose the other school. I wouldn't wade through that BS summary of events with chest waders on. The shit would be over one's head.

I love how much this kids seems to want to be here.

Price - ags taking care of their own?