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2nd time I've seen this mentioned. I guess he didn't redshirt last year? I assumed he did as little as he played but guess not

Sports "inequality" is a hot topic no matter the level. Starting at Kindergarten redshirts, to high school "transfers" or Allen refusing to split up their high schools, all the way to Tampa Rays fans bitching about the Yankees payroll and lack of a real salary cap in MLB. Or 90% of CFB teams bitching about Texas NIL. That's my point. It's a successful argument because everyone already has hot sports opinions (literally) about inequity in sports. So throw transgender and the mere thought of a "male" dropping 30 and 15 in a girls high school playoff game (regardless of whether it is actually happening or not, as it isn't) and it's a winner to fire people up that aren't going to research whether or not there is an actual issue.

This 100%. The reason this is an effective strategy is because the concept of inequity as it comes to sports is absolutely a winner at a base level without gender issues layered on top. Are some of people against this super transphobic? I'm sure. But we had a little league game earlier this week where our 2nd grade boys team played a team with a bunch of known 3rd graders on it that were mashing and a bunch of the moms got all pissy about it. Kind of like Highland Park parents (among others) are purportedly notorious for kindergarten "redshirting" their boys for sports purposes and enjoying that advantage in youth sports (which similarly gets people outside of highland park all pissy as I've heard this get brought up/bitched about in 3 or 4 different settings). So you take a concept like sports inequity that draws people offsides anyways, slap transgender on top of it, and of course it accomplishes exactly what they want.

I think it's as simple as being one of the few 'MAGA' positions where there is likely pretty clear majority support to the extent there was actually an issue. If, in reality, you had biological males playing against biological females across all sports for 2 or 3 teams in every district with many of those biological males being really good players and dominating games, it would be an actual issue that would be unpopular as the majority (even non-MAGA) would take the position that seems inherently unfair. Of course, that's not happening in the real world. But trying to pretend it is an issue is a political winner and we live in the year 2024 where online outrage about shit like this gets people fired up. It is what it is.

This. Keep the fucking negative press on this douchebag leader and their ridiculous demands and you aren't going to risk many votes with the government intervening. It's hard for anyone looking at this objectively to think that the ILA are the 'good guys' given these demands and demeanor.

I was in my late 20's at that game. That game doesn't seem like that long ago but damn if it wasn't.

As late as 2008? You realize that was 16 years ago right

I remember for this particular storm the weather nerds were all over it for more than 2 weeks before. They may not have predicted the extent of the event but expecting a likely cold snap 3-4 weeks out seems plausible.

Pretty shitty slate of games overall which is disappointing for a bye week.

I've only been following it high level the past couple of weeks. The "demands" of the dockworkers are pie in the sky. To what extent that is BS posturing who knows. The proposal yesterday seemed reasonable but I'm not near enough in the weeds to have an informed opinion. I do know based on a 2 minute clip posted in the DT thread the rep for the union is a douchebag that is not going to garner any sympathy for their cause if he takes that attitude to the press in the coming days.

Dockworkers strike is not great for Harris. Assuming this doesn't get resolved in the near term, the current administration (and by extension Kamala) will take the hit regardless of fault. The Trump campaign is desperate for new talking points and I'll be pretty surprised if this isn't a big part of their messaging soon if not already.

I saw a stat that Mizzou has hardly any explosive plays in the passing game this season against shit competition. Like in the 100's nationally. I haven't watched MIzzou but that is pretty surprising given their personnel.

This. Couldn't be a worse representative. That 2 minute interview tells me all I need to know about these negotiations.

Yep. Had a conversation with CDC about this years ago when Big Noon Kickoff was first announced and we were locked into the Fox contract. I asked if he had any ability to try avoid that window for early season games. He actually had a long and detailed answer including history on this topic with interesting anecdotes from early in his career, but it basically boiled down to Power 5 schools decided a long time ago to give up all scheduling rights in exchange for a big pile of cash and there is no putting the genie back in that bottle. Part of why he put such an effort into revamping the gameday experience with Bevo Blvd, LCL, etc. on the basis that he wanted to make it a great fan friendly atmosphere no matter the kickoff time.

Yep. Get up 2 scores after 2 drives and it's going to be hard for any coach to stay patient with 3-4 yard runs and burning clock.

Didn't get to watch much but seems like OU got whipped overall looking at the box score yet won. I saw the one early run by Hawkings but didn't seem like he did much after that. I did see the highlight of the pick six. If OU wasn't doing much on offense, what in the world was Hugh thinking letting your shitty turnover machine QB put the ball in the air with a lead late. I heard it was an RPO call. You don't give him that "option" in that situation. Deserved to lose with that kind of coaching.

I don't think it was that complicated or surprising of a game plan and was fairly obvious given the roster disparity + QB with no experience. It's what Kentucky did earlier in the day and it's what damn near every team other than UGA will probably try to do to some extent. Certainly what Michigan wanted to do as well until we got the lead. If Blue doesn't fumble on the 2nd series and we score it would have probably been over at that point. Shortening the game only works if you can keep within striking distance.

I haven't listened to a single picks with friends segment since Dan and Jake left. It's shared segments like that or ticket trips/events that took the biggest hit when they left.

That's what is funny. I feel like most years I know more about OU than he does. Particularly overall roster/recruiting etc. He's what most of us that follow this sport closely consider a casual fan even for his own team. Which is fine if sports knowledge wasn't your actual fucking job. Dave absolutely made the Hardline a decent show. I would be out completely at this point if not for Dave as he will call both out on their BS. And no doubt he gets paid a lot less than the other 2.

I would try to make his life fucking miserable until he quits.

I wondered if Bear claiming he wanted to keep practicing had something to do with his NIL contract. I.e., still a student athlete and part of the team despite electing to redshirt. I have never seen an actual contract but know they can't be structured as pay to play but can be conditioned on being a student athlete.

And yet he knows 10X more than Corby. Corby, the self proclaimed Ticket college football "expert" last week in segments I listened to claimed (i) he had no idea Tom Herman was still involved in college football and (ii) was shocked that Milroe had a top 5 or so deep ball efficiency rating during the 2023 season (literally the only thing Milroe did well since day 1 last year as anyone that pays attention to college football would know). There was something else last week equally basic he was either wrong about or didn't know I'm forgetting. But I'll never understand how the guy who's entire job is "sports talk" and claims to be an "expert" in a sport, somehow knows significantly less than the vast majority of college football fans. So fucking lazy

I mean 'croots getting Lambo's' at Texas is talked about on message boards and sports twitter all over the country every time we have a recruiting event. There is absolutely value to the Lambo brand for their NIL relationship with Texas players.

As it relates to OU's demise specifically we just need to beat them. If we fuck that game up again he still has that bright spot to sell regardless of how the rest of the season goes. If they lose that game, their schedule will take care of the rest.

But this is the problem with that strategy. This OU fanbase is so used to winning they will have absolutely zero patience for a methodical rebuild. When they don't win the SEC this year, it will be the longest stretch without a conference title since they broke the drought between 1987 and 2000. Their schedule is brutal but if they go something like 6-6 Venables is going to be under a ton of heat to win next year. Is a Hawkins that is running for his life/getting beat up every week going to somehow be ready to take a huge step forward in a must win year under very likely a new coordinator? Or is it more likely Venables feels he has to make moves to win 9 or 10 games in 2025 and blow his NIL fund to bring in a veteran (and then what do you do if you are Hawkins and does OU have the NIL budget to pay a top QB and fill out their roster). There flat out isn't a good scenario available to Venables right now outside of Hawkins somehow making the staff and the fanbase confident that he is going to be much improved as a Soph and elite by (OU standards) his Junior year. So good luck with all of that Brent.