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Neither of them are/were going to get us where we want to be so it's close enough to not matter.

There's got to be some middle ground between "we're 6-4" and "our former tight end was convicted of murder/our receivers coach beats his wife."

It is weird that Herman makes "aggressive" decisions to go for it on 4th down and then makes really conservative calls. He allows Orlando to play a high-risk defense with the constant blitzing from BFE and then goes ultra conservative on offense any time he gets the lead. He must suck at poker.

My gauge for when a coach should be fired is when I'm no longer get mad when we lose. It's hard to get mad when the expected happens. Am I disappointed? Sure. Is the loss acceptable? No. Was I surprised we lost? Not one bit.

Umm, who is worse? No one is clearly worse. I'm not sure about Tech, KU, and WVU are unknowns and Patterson seems to be fading, but I'd say Herman's staff is in the 8 - 10 range in the league. Baylor, ISU, OU, OSU, and KSU are definitely ahead of us.

Baylor's success helps. Herman can't blame it on youth, lack of talent, not having "his" guys, etc. Rhule started in a much worse position and unlike Texas, his team seems to be getting better as the year goes on. That's the most damning part. Our guys get worse the more time they spend with this staff.

Herman seems to believe this shit, which shows a shocking lack of self awareness. We haven't imposed our will on anyone this year. We put up points, at least early in the year, but even then we weren't mashing folks.

I think Herman is done. Now it's just of question of when he'll be gone. I don't see him getting fired this year unless we lose out, but I don't see us showing improvement either.

Speaking of asses, Herman is kinda looking like Harbaugh these days. Not bad, but clearly second tier. And kind of a dick.

I don't understand how we are bad as we are. Defense is supposed to be about trade-offs, yet we seem to fail no matter what. Typically, you bring extra rushers with the goal of getting to the quarterback before he can find an open receiver. You're betting your secondary can hold up longer than their protection. Or you drop extra guys into coverage hoping you can prevent a completion and/or get a turnover. In either case, you want to force them into a bad play or at least a sub-optimal play (e.g. a short completion on third and long). But that's not how it works for us. Even when we have the "right" play call we fail - the two point conversion for example. Dropping 8 guys into coverage from the two yard line should make it tough to complete the pass, but leave you susceptible to a QB run. You know - a trade-off. But we triple teamed one guy and left another wide open. It led to an easy completion AND I'm sure the QB could have run it in if he'd wanted to. We don't force the offense to make choices.

The replay was weird - I couldn't see the ball at all. They weren't going to overturn that no matter what the original call was.

It's all about who wants it less.

You know you don't actually have to read this thread. For the record, Herman is clearly a better coach than Strong and our team is clearly better overall now than it was three years ago. No one is arguing otherwise. That said, I believe the point the OP was making is that we have a fairly active thread on what a retard Strong is nearly three years after he left. Meanwhile, our current coach is putting out a product that is just as bad on one side of the ball (two if we count special teams, notwithstanding the two blocks against Kansas - how are we dead last in punt yards?). When Strong's teams made the same mistakes over and over, it's because he's dumb. When Herman's teams make the same mistakes over and over its because his assistants are letting him down or they are playing down to the competition. So Strong is a retarded moron whereas Herman needs to fire some assistants. And pointing that out is considered carrying Strong's water.

Apparently we are SEC good. Aggy will be devestated.

Still didn't answer.

It's a football blog. Why does any thread on Surly exist? And you didn't answer the question. Who are these black posters who are carrying Strong's water?

Who is carrying Strong's water? Our defense looks like shit. That's not debatable. This defense could easily end up as the worst in school history. We just got our asses handed to us by the lowest scoring team in the conference. We seem to be getting worse each week and that has nothing to do with Strong.

I can't point to a single game this season where we out-coached the other team. Our defense is terrible and our offense is unreliable for stretches of time. Is Herman better than Strong? Sure. Is he better than Les Miles? Not tonight he wasn't. Is he better than Rhule? It doesn't look like it. He doesn't seem to be in Lincoln Riley's league. K State looks like they hired a good coach too. Hell, Gundy does more with less. Is he better than Patterson? I don't know. There are some good coaches in the Big 12, ours looks below average.

La Tech? That's funny. Duvernay trucked LSU players, which is great and all, but those weren't well executed plays.

We suck at WR screens, but you wouldn't know it from the play calling. We couldn't even run them consistently against Rice.

Maybe if he brought Art Briles in as his offensive coordinator.

This game didn't feel anything like the LSU game. There were several points during the LSU game when I thought we could win. It didn't happen, but that game wasn't decided until the very end. It never felt like we would win today even when it was a 7 point game.

Is Hurts a better quarterback than Sam? I don't think so, but no one in their right mind would say Sam played better today. Is their o-line better than ours? Not really (though we are getting worse each game), yet we gave up 8 or 9 sacks whereas they marched up and down the field. OU had a better game plan and executed it better. We seemed to go away from what we do well. That's bad coaching.

Unfortunately, we haven't seemed to be the same team since LSU. The o-line doesn't look the same, our kick and punt return teams are awful, Sam struggles for stretches of time, B.J. Foster looks like he's actively avoiding contact, the receivers are dropping the ball. We should come out against OU with our hair on fire, but we looked like a Mack Brown team early on. The team doesn't seem right.

They aren't more talented, their coaches put them in better position to succeed.