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Wait wait wait. So you guys hammer self for “I didn’t see it” and defend Weber for “my fault” when Weber also said he didn’t see it and self came out pissed in the post game conference. This is how I know almost everyone in this thread is clutching their pearls. Only D2o has said anything about KSU. Everyone else has turned a blind eye or defended KSU. De Sousa should be gone and I hope self holds him longer than the league wants. But he isn’t the only problem here.

1 and 4 Go hand in hand. The worry among KU fans is that Jeff long will try and exert power he was no doubt given with selfs approval. That’s when you have major issues. The point about KSU is very curious to everyone. Reddit conversation cant believe that KSU isn’t taking any blame. Weber has basically said nothing until after the punishments. The school also said nothing about sportsmanship or how it reflected on the program. The taters I know loved it and can’t wait for their home game. They’re a lot like mizzou in that fashion. The obvious worry is that we drop our next conference game with no back up big man. We’re going to have to get 13 minutes from an undersized freshman 4 at the 5 spot. Luckily OSU is pretty undersized as well so they probably won’t feast inside. It could easily be an OSU win given our struggles down there. The silver lining here is that both fan bases finally feel like this is a rivalry. If it isn’t going to be competitive on the court at least it can be emotional off the court and on the court. It’s no secret that self and Weber don’t like each other. Now the players don’t like each other. On top of that, the media (and everyone else) now has a reason to hate KU. That will hopefully galvanize the team even further and encourage us to not take plays off when we are up 13. The obvious worry is that we can be easily emotionally baited into fouls. But I don’t see the refs calling our games tighter as a problem, in this league that probably helps KU, especially at WVU who is a contender.

Watch the other angles champ. Also, maybe go look at my posts on it. I think he’s gone and am fine with it. You don’t think anyone else has any culpability unless they are associated with Ku.

Once again showing your ass. He was not the first one to throw a punch. He wasn’t the second to throw a punch. But you’d rather just look at a still frame shot and make your judgement.

I thought about raping your wife. Going to arrest me for it? Espn wants criminal charges pressed. Settle down snowflake. It was a fight at a basketball game where no one even landed a blow. Also false. If you watch, the guy in black is pulled out and away before any stomping happened. The stomper was stepping over a folded up chair. Once again, you didn’t watch the other angles you just want Ku to take heat. have anything to say about the KSU bench clearing over a stare down? What about that the first few punches were thrown by purple people?

I can tell none of you have watched the reverse angle.

The sad thing is that 3 out of 4 of those teams should be in the top half of the conference. Which means our conference is woefully bad relative to years passed.

Good to see you back. Stick around for the rest of the season.

THat's a completely separate issue. The NCAA doesn't typically step in on discipline issues. That was a eligibility issue.

Jim Ross on the call http://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1219822809339301888

The reverse angle from right next to the action shows that its actually McCormmack and he is stepping up onto the elevated surface and then stepping over a knocked down chair. That is the only good thing to come of this, potentially. If ESPN is right then the season is over and next year is going to be garbage as well. McCormmack and Garrett are the core of the team next season.

REVERSE TERRY! REVERSE!!!

Maybe if Marcus Smart weren't an NBA caliber player then he would have at least gotten ejected from the game when he deliberately walked into the stands in Lubbock and punched a fan. Maybe he would have gotten suspended for more than 3 games? Nahhhhhh... good players deserve the same punishment or worse than bad players.

Just looked and the brawl between cincy and Xavier in 2011 had 8 guys suspended. The longest was 6 games. Rules have also gotten far more strict since then though.

That’ll be the pic that smokes him in my opinion. Even though he didn’t use it the fans being around and possibly hurt and picking it up in the first place is rough. it will be interesting to see tomorrow. The league only hit marcus smart for 3 games for fighting a fan in the stands. Something tells me this one will be worse though.

The real tough part is the leaving the bench rule. Technically the game wasn’t over. The league and NCAA could suspend both teams 100% for leaving the bench. reviewing the videos, 3 KSU guys run off the bench at de Sousa. Then a punch is thrown from somewhere and de Sousa throws a punch. Then McCormack comes in with the hard shove and shit goes nuts. Our assistant coach Jeremy case flies over bodies to get between the KSU guy in street clothes (one of the main instigators) and the Ku guys. I’m not sure if the KSU kid gets out or is on the ground getting stomped by McCormack. He doesn’t seem to be hurt so maybe there was no one down there under the boot. pure insanity.

Absolutely not. I wouldn’t be mad if he gets the boot altogether. College kids have a way of always getting off easy. Happens at every school, even yours. I think he should be gone for at least the year. I’ve been watching the videos and it looks like he drops the chair a second before our assistant actually grabs it so maybe he had a second of clarity. That’s the only thing I can see that make him only get “suspended indefinitely” with the expectation that he isn’t coming back this year. He isn’t good enough at this point to stick your neck out for if your Bill self, given our other issues. im more concerned with McCormack.

The stole the ball when we were dribbling it out. De Sousa blocked the shot and stared down the guy. KSU dude comes off the bench and punches thrown from at least 4 people I saw. Don’t know who really threw the first punch.

De Sousa is going to be gone. At least 10 games. ESPN wants him gone forever. I think it’s the rest of the year which is probably right. He only plays 4 minutes a game or so but he gives depth. McCormack getting in there hurts a ton. We might have to pull a redshirt because of that. If he’s gone for the season then we just blew the year on a 20+ pint blow out.

Just go hire billy Donovan and be done with it.

Guys I’m not going to lie, as a fan of the top basketball school in the country I am willing to write CDC a letter pleading for this fucking misery to end. Shaka isn’t robbing UT, he is flat out raping UT. He legit doesn’t care about developing kids’ skills, developing young men, or winning a fucking game. Please make it stop. I don’t know when the last time i saw a coach fired for performance in the middle of the basketball season but Shaka needs to go. Like tomorrow. outside of writing a check, let me know what o can do to help. Our entire conference is getting ass fucked by this clown.

As an observation, shitty handles on guards have to be the most frustrating thing on a basketball court. That and passing that is off the mark. What the fuck do these guards practice???

Is he the next Dylan "The Derka Special" Osetkowski?

Happens all the time, especially when schools that aren't traditional powers go after the big time players. I'm not sure where this kids was ranked but it is clear that Shaka does not have the gravitas to make demands of his players. Which is another reason to fire him. Even KU has had a couple of players come through that want to be utilized a certain way regardless of what is best for the team. Those guys usually transfer once they realize they aren't first on the depth chart in their desired position. I remember David Padgett and his father wanted him out on the perimeter. He transferred after a year. Same with CJ Giles who was 6'11". These guys saw the floor but at the 4/5 spot and if they didn't want to play that spot then they sat behind a kid that was much more suited for the perimeter.

The secondary is pretty good. In their 3 losses they gave up 189, 105, and 201 passing yards. That’s salty. The best 2 things kc have going for us is that Mahomes comes from a Mike leach, pass quick, offense and that Reid is capable and willing to call those plays. I’d look for hardman and hill to have big games running 5-10 yard crossing routes. this will be a game where we really miss Kareem hunt.