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Where we are going to get popped is with the NCAA saying the adidas guys were boosters. If we can prove they aren't then all of these allegations become level 2 at worst. We definitely won't win that in the hearing but we might have a chance in appeals where the NCAA isn't in charge.

Allegation #1 - Adidas paying Billy Preston's mom. Allegation #2 - Adidas gear to the Angolan national team. - 2.5k for SDS online class. - 20k to get out from under Maryland money. Allegation #3 - Gassnola's failed attempt to get Ayton for 15k. - Introduction of Adidas' Dan Cutler. Promised to cover travel expenses for recruit (Ayton?). Self contacted mom 3 weeks later. - Merle Code gave recruiting info prior to in-home with recruit (Ayton?) Allegation #4 - Referring to Allegations #1-3, Self did not promote an atmosphere of compliance. - Adidas reps at Late Night. Allegation #5 - Referring to Allegations #1-3, institution failed exercise institutional control. - KU compliance raised red flags around Gassnola. Institution did not provide him rules education. - Billy Preston's car and lack of registering with compliance. - Certifying Billy Preston initially as eligible. Lot of redacting, but appears something around allowing him to be with team while knowing he was ineligible.

That's not for me to justify. Looking back, we should have paid him. We self reported his violations so we wouldn't have to. Now the NCAA is saying we have a systemic problem across sports. Not worth the money.

Where did I say they were equal? Beaty said he should get all of his money because he left the program and there were no violations. KU is now getting hit for LOIC which football is contributing to. Beaty clearly left the program with violations by NCAA standards. His contract specifically says any violations and we don't have to pay his contract.

I know that "UNC/Duke/UK cheats so why aren't they being punished" isn't a defense and it pisses me off to no end that those types of posts are 50% of the convo on KU boards, but damn they are a lot tighter with their efforts than we are. Supposedly we left Nike because we wanted to differentiate from those 3 schools, which to me means that we weren't the Nike flagship so we weren't going to get the top players under their brand. Nike probably doesn't even talk to people at Duke/UNC/UK though. I'm guessing they just have someone follow the flight logs of the team plane and they send a rep out to the game the coach goes to and they start making offers to players. My hunch is that KU was effectively teaching Adidas the game and with a little bad luck (this all stems from a financial advisor getting popped for a non-related crime and rolling on Dawkins because he wanted a lighter sentence) we are in the spot we are in. The second unlucky thing is that the adidas trial was before the nike trial. All of our dirty laundry gets out and then the nike guys all plead out so no evidence is ever seen. Switch the trials and it could be nike schools getting notice and KU could be cleaning house with recruiting right now. But here we are. This story hasn't even begun to start. Should be an interesting year, would be awesome to see KU win it all just to spit in the face of the NCAA. I doubt we'll get many calls come tourney time.

Haha.. Self had a very defiant interview this summer. Basically went Wolf of Wallstreet with "I ain't Fucking Leaving". The KC Star, which is a Mizzou homer paper for some reason, kept putting stories out that he was going to the bulls because he knew the clock was ticking with the NCAA. Here is an excerpt from the article where they finally pissed him off enough to make a statement: Sucks if we lose Townsend though. He was definitely a top 5 bag man in the country. He obviously got sloppy. I hope Self can manage to keep him but I don't see a chance in hell that he can without having the NCAA in our ass every year. What good is a bag man that can't be a bag man? We know he isn't some amazing coach.

What do you recommend KU do? With preston, we could vacate every game he played in, which would be zero games. We held him out the minute we "heard" of allegations of payment. Same with De Sousa. De Sousa was then cleared by an appeal committee because they concluded that the NCAA didn't have shit for a case against him. To further fuck it up, the NCAA held the kid hostage unless KU would call Adidas a booster for the school so they could penalize the kid for taking money from a booster. KU is absolutely guilty of getting busted with pay for play. No doubt about it. However, the NCAA has made a bunch of missteps and KU actually did a great job of covering themselves on the court. The texts between Gassnola and KU coaches are absolutely idiotic but it is hard to imagine that you can stick bill self for massive penalties directly if all he has said is "we need top players". I see Townsend going down as the sacrificial lamb, a potential vacation of the final four and maybe a lost scholarship or two. I don't see a chance in hell that Bill Self is directly implicated with anything more than failure to promote an environment of compliance. The NCAA might try to stick him, but it will be so shakey that it won't end up being a Bruce Pearl or Sean Miller-like incident.

Should also add that this is going to be about as drawn out at the UNC classes scandal. Not a chance in hell we respond before necessary, then the NCAA will be slow, then we will not negotiate and/or appeal everything. We probably won't even have a hearing until after the 2020 tournament. Depending on the severity of the penalties, I can also see this entering into a legal battle.

Haha... And people on the football board want us to pay beaty $3M. He cheated too. Allegedly, the football charges are what put the icing on the cake for LOIC. As far as basketball, here we go. Basically nothing to the story but we'll see in the next 48 hours what the allegations actually are. I'm confident we'll have a response, but my confidence in Jeff Long is wavering. He seems to be the kind of guy who says "let's work with the NCAA to get this done and just move forward" when we have seen that if you work with the NCAA at all you get smoked and when you stonewall them you delay things for years and then they are dropped. It'll be interesting to see what route we take. I can tell you right now that I don't see any chance in hell that Bill Self is going down without a massive fight and that's with the backing of Long or without it. Long will be gone FAR before Self will be, especially if the fans have anything to say about it.

Sounds like an episode of knight rider or something.

Literally the indictments said KU was a victim. That is fact. What is also fact is that I’ve said this is the meteor that destroys us. Supposedly self has offered up a resignation. He is apparently unhappy with how the new AD, Jeff Long, handled the de Sousa situation believing that “hypothetically” naming the adidas guy a booster wasn’t worth getting De Sousa eligible. Looks like lack of control on the coach and playing an ineligible player from what I’m reading. Pull down the last final 4 and self suspended at the least.

You mean the dime package doesn’t mean ten men on the field?

I hate them but they made a damn good hire.

For the record, in 5th grade I was Jessie Owens for a hero report. I did not wear blackface, just a USA jersey, shorts, and my L.A. Gear kicks with a fake gold medal. I am not a racist like so many of this worlds (international and local) leaders seem to be.

I refuse to believe in Baylor still. They still have a short roster so we’ll see how things play out. On the point about the middle playing well could beat the top, if KU plays like we did against BC then we could still beat wvu, tech, KSU (home game) and maybe isu or tcu. There is no chance in hell KU is going to be bowl eligible. So by my logic I greatly discount the “can play with anyone”. KSU and Baylor look decent right now. They have also played very KSU and Baylor schedules with the exception of the MSST game. I just haven’t been impressed with the rest of the conference outside UT and OU. Looking at schedules, the first 2 weeks of conference play is going to paint a fairly clear picture of how the league will play out.

I don’t think anyone is talking about wearing cultural garb. The issue is JT painted his face as a costume. Just like it has been an issue for many in the United States. The difference is, when some people do it their entire careers should be ended. When others do it we should make light of it or just look the other way.

DTCF will be added to my everyday verbiage for the record.

The response this is getting on this board is about how you’d expect. Only in America would this be ok for some people and not ok for others of the same race. Really shows the priority of the day is outrage against political foe and not political correctness.

I guess I would say that in years past the middle of the pack has been closer to the top of the pack than the bottom. Meaning an ISU or KSU could take down an OU/UT with a good performance and would blow out the bottom feeders with a decent performance. This year it feels like OU/UT are pretty much untouchable unless something special happens and the bottom tier could beat a middling teams with a good performance. I think the top of the conference is strong. The middle is very soft in my opinion.

Wow. I have it very different: OU UT gap OSU Gap KSU baylor ISU tcu tech gap wvu ku i think it would take a perfect game in the second group to beat the top group. I don’t think the lower two tiers have a chance against the top. However I think the bottom tier could beat one or two of the next tier up. I think OSU has the least amount of questions compared to the rest. At the end of the day Gundy is going to score. You don’t know what you’re going to get out of the teams below him.

Is there any doubt that Fullmer is going to pull a Alvarez this year? Pruitt was basically begging for his job to fans/media over the last week.

He is now teetering on the edge of lifer. It would take 4-6 really down years at VA and a blue blood retirement to snag him away. Good for him. Hope they never win another game. For real. Class act can’t hate him.

I think the money is in the cam girls and Snapchat girls now. It’s like $50 for a handful of 30 second videos with a Snapchat chick. No doubt they are paying referrals to the pron site. I know that pornhub did an AMA on Reddit a year or so ago. I think I remember the question being asked on how they made money. I can’t remember the details but they were open about how they did. Just found the AMA. It’s from 2015 and they were the 60th most trafficked site back then. One question asked about traffic and the response was “the other day we had more people on our site during the day than the entire population of Canada.”

Fatty was the best. We take down wvu. Then win a close on at Tcu. We’ve got tech, KSU, and Baylor at home. Isu on the road. If the BC winning team is the team that shows up the rest of the year then we could steal one game and win two. Could be a 5 win team. Then again, could be a two win team. If im being honest, a lot of the throws that Stanley made for big plays and touchdowns were flukes. Went right through defenders’ hands and into our guy’s chest. We won’t get those breaks all year unless Stanley suddenly turned into drew Brees.

We’re back bitches!!!