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I just don't think you're going to get those guys with lebron there at this point. Is it not obvious that front offices destroy themselves over him at this point? He kills coaches too. Phil isn't walking through that door and neither is pat riley. There isn't a coach or GM in the league other than West that could come in and "control" the culture. Neither are going to LA. It is also important to note that other than Chris Bosh, no other big time free agents have ever gone to play with lebron. And that deal was orchestrated by one of two men in the league that can control the culture and he isn't going to LA. That leads us to the question, are we sure that any FA's really want to go play in LA with Lebron controlling all of the strings? Butler is a great prize, but he doesn't like to be told what to do. Kemba is a wild card because he's never been free. AD could go. Kawhi might end up in the finals with toronto and if KD is down he might end up with a championship. Klay is rumored to be more interested in LAC than LAL. Who knows where KD will be but I haven't heard anything about him wanting to play with the only player that might be on equal footing as him. That leaves Kyrie, who seems to want to be the #2 guy again and has patched things up with Lebron. So great, you have cavs 2.0 in LA with a shit coach and no leadership in the front office. That won't fly in the west, and it wouldn't even fly in the east anymore. So, if you assume that you have a 25% chance of landing a FA to pair with lebron or you can dump him and definitely get 2 big FA's and maybe 3 then do you do it? **As a side note, it would be funny to see lebron get traded. That would definitely tarnish his legacy.

No doubt. You’ve got to clean the front office too. But having all of that money is a good place to start with culture change from a player standpoint. If you’re going to implode, now is the time to do it, not when you’re capped out.

It sounds to me like the lakers just need to clean house. I'd even trade lebron if possible at this point. They have LA and a shitload of cap space next year with decent young pieces in ball, ingram, kuzma, hart. I'm not sure how the cap holds work but wouldn't they have like $80M of cap space left over? You bring in AD and dump lebron and you are probably going to get at least one big time guy and maybe 2. Instant contender and you can hire whatever fucking coach you want. Decent fillers, big names/skills, no more "fire/trade this guy or I'll half ass it" attitudes. Butler, KD, Kyrie, Kawhi, Kemba, Klay. All out there to get and the Lakers have a shitload of cap. Seems to me the only thing that would keep them from rebounding to being a top 5 team next year would be lebron and whichever coach he wants them to hire. Just move on and become great again.

Game on for the ncaa. I’ve got a feeling that this summer will be anticlimactic all of the sudden. No reason. Just a gut feel.

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I don't know what to make of the Arizona investigation yet. As far as I know KU hasn't been alerted to an investigation other than the one KU opened for De Sousa and the NCAA is currently reviewing his appeal on his suspension. Are Auburn, USC, OSU, and other schools that have been named, and have coaches named, been formally alerted to an investigation? If I'm putting on my crimson and blue glasses then I think this is a good sign that KU isn't being investigated. If I'm being practical then I'm saying that it is only a matter of time but the NCAA wants Zona blood first because it seems to be very low hanging fruit at a school that is a top 15 program in the greater landscape of cbb. A good scalp to take without disturbing the upper echelon of programs. This summer is going to be interesting as the trials finish up and the NCAA gets to work.

I sit in the morning when I’m groggy. Usually end up shitting too but don’t necessarily mean to. I usually piss/shit with the lights off in the morning so standing isn’t an option.

One of the things I loved most about my ex was that she wasn’t afraid to fart her ass off or take a big dump. One time we got stoned and ate McDonald’s. We laid in bed and she ripped ass and it smelled EXACTLY like the Big Mac she had just ate. Uncanny really.

I’m already in that thread and am a stalwart. As Emilio estevez said in Young Guns. “You have to test yourself everyday.”

Really??? didn't know that. Either way, if people couldn't see that the comment about Tech's majors was sarcastic then you're wayyyy too wound up.

Someone was triggered by a little ribbing. I’m happy tech signed beard again and he won the conference this year with at least one grad transfer playing a prominent role, I was merely saying that he’ll continue to get grad transfers that contribute and making up a shit reason for it. As for Lawrence v. Lubbock... Lawrence is one of the better college towns in America. It is great to get away from though. Lubbock is not a great college town and the city as a whole is pretty ugly.

The only time your bills should be out of sorts is when you're tossing them at a stripper or a child is handing you money.

You guys are debating recruiting like it really matters anyway. The reason Beard is so hot is because he took 3 guys that didn't really have much noise and made them get drafted early. He took recruits that no one wanted and got the big12 title and a national title appearance. He doesn't need to recruit because he can find and develop players. He didn't lose to UT or KU who had superior talents. He won with less. He doesn't need more to win, that's why he is such a hot name with a fat wallet. Also... Tech, being in the shithole of the nation probably has a lot of fucking weird majors and grad degrees that aren't common so it could be very attractive for grad transfers that have to switch majors to get an extra year.

Anyone else fart as they do a pirouette in front of the toilet as they are sitting down to shit? I typically hold my shit until the last possible moments so I'll rush in the bathroom, undoing my belt/pants as i'm walking in the bathroom. As i approach the front of the shitter I'll drop my pants, spin ass toward the hole, and sit at the same time. I ALWAYS let out a fart as I'm spinning which means I effectively am farting in my own face because my ass level (pre-sit) is at my face level (post sit). Basically an appetizer to what the shit is going to smell like. If I have a rank fart and a floater then I might courtesy flush because that is just asking for trouble

You steal a 4 time championship coach (at the time), now arguably the best coach of all time, the year after he wins a championship for one of the top schools in the history of college football.... Yeah. That would be a money whip, unless you didn't pay him more, then its a change of scenery. You would have paid him much more because he had bama rolling and UT was in the shit. He was making $6.9M that year. I know this won't get much love here but bama football is more historic than UT football. Saban himself has more titles than UT. The big 12 is not as prestigious as the SECSECSEC if anything for the mere fact that the big 12 has only be around a couple of decades. It might have taken $9-10M to get saban that year and Bama would have likely matched it. But there were no rumors that a "make him say no" offer was thrown out. Aggie would have definitely thrown that out and they would have made it public if there were even hints of blood in the water for Saban to move. Even though I mention aggie, I don't mean to compare them to UT so that isn't the point. The point is that people around here always talk about how UT can get any coach UT wants because UT will pay more money than others can afford for the best coach. The fact is, that hasn't happened yet and UT has quite the opposite strategy when you look at the history of hires (once again with the exception of baseball and softball). UT has made some damn good hires based on value and track record. If UT could have arguably the best coach of all time then why don't they get him? You can't tell me that the bureaucrats at the tower would rather have 1 title in 17 years Mack Brown (who had lost 5 games in 3 of his final 4 season) over 3 national titles in the last 4 years. Even sally's cookies aren't that good. Point is, the money whip talk around here and on TOS is probably the most ridiculous talk on this board and that's saying something given that I contribute here.

100% true. But it is also true that there has almost never been this mythical "money whip" that UT can use to get high profile coaches. Barnes and Mack were both great hires. But it wasn't stealing any coach UT wanted for any price. Like I said, if UT ever had that in them (dodds or CDC) then Dabo, Saban, Urban, or some other championship game competing coach (a coach that has gotten to the finals of their sport) would likely already be coaching at UT in football or basketball. Shaka would have never been hired and the same goes for strong. Women's softball is great, but that isn't where the money is or where the money/success/viewership matters. I need to add that if UT alum were so willing to throw around the money then they would have never let patterson hire the guys he did. They would have served up a top 5 coach in the country on a silver platter with a check that made it work.

Point taken. I'll have to give finer criteria... UCLA has the worst AD that has been on the job for more than 15 years. I'd argue that even KU's AD was worse overall for KU than Patterson for UT. But that is wholly because of longevity. At least UT's regents/president saw the train wreck and got rid of patterson. KU rode Zenger for 8 years and UCLA is still riding the Guerrero train 17 years into the sunset.

UCLA has the worst AD of all time. Convince me I’m wrong. That department leaks like my asshole.

One of the best things about this trial is that it should make the NCAA take a stand. No one ever has really seen their investigations unfold and we are getting to see a real investigation unfold in real time. Last summer the ncaa basically punted on doing anything claiming that the problem is everyone else and not them. This summer the NCAA is going to have a lot of hearsay, a lot of hard evidence, judgments against runners and coaches in some cases, and judgments that should show that schools were victims and not perps in other cases. It is going to be real tough for the NCAA to pick and choose who to punish in this deal. Take Zona for example, Miller doesn't really have any hard evidence against him that has been admitted to court. It could be argued that the convo between dawkins and code about miller is just hearsay and never happened. If you punish miller for that then you have to punish KU for De Sousa and Preston as well as Duke for Zion. Though you don't have any names right now, you'd also have to punish UK and UNC since they "have their resources." This whole thing is a shit show for the NCAA. I have no clue what to expect so I'm just expecting the worst.

Jimbo Fisher is one more coach than UT has ever money whipped. A post was made saying that if UT wants someone the big money will get him. UT must have not wanted Saban, or any other championship contending coach because UT has never once gone out there and gotten a coach that has previously taken another P5 school to a championship. Augie Garrido was at Cal State Fullerton but his money whip was $1.7M over 6 years. Not exactly throwing a blank check at someone saying name your price, and that's in a sport where texas has more history than basketball.

Can someone give me a list of coaches with previous championship level success that UT has money whipped into becoming their head coach? Seems to me the only team in Texas willing to money whip anyone is A&M.

Sounds like he is set up for movement only to a blue blood and protected his AD.

Don’t get me wrong. I think players should market themselves and learn exactly what their value is. I think most would find it’s about $0 (especially in football). It cannot be denied that as the rules stand nearly everyone is cheating. The NCAA took a stand last summer and said “we aren’t changing.” So the rules aren’t changing. That puts the ball in the member schools court. Abolish the ncaa to save your biggest money makers and rewrite the rules. Mark Emmert isn’t going to do it voluntarily.

There is no reason this shouldn’t take the NCAA completely down. Fucking CREIGHTON quality players are getting paid. Everyone in the P5 is dirty, some just haven’t been explicitly caught. This includes KU who is a “victim”. This whole thing is a joke.

Lot going on here for Forde to pick at.... 1. Forde is a MU grad who hates KU more than anything. He's a piece of shit. 2. Maybe you've missed that the fulcrum of the FBI investigation is that the universities and their agents didn't know about the payments. The indictment listed KU as a victim. The FBI didn't indict anyone from KU. If KU or its agents knew about the scheme and it could be proven then the FBI wouldn't have a case. This is also why the feds are trying to block miller and wade from testifying. 3. The wiretap that he is claiming exists actually doesn't exist. The FBI fucked up and didn't hit record on the tap. No evidence other than hearsay that this conversation happened between Dawkins and Townsend ever was put into the record. 4. If the state institution is backing the federal government's play and the jury of peers found the accused parties guilty that means that KU and its agents (coaches) did not know about the scheme (which they couldn't if they were victims and the jury found the accused guilty) then a logical maneuver would be to recover damages from the guilty parties for your legal fees. If KU doesn't do this then maybe they look more complicit and we have an article saying "If KU really wasn't part of this they would be trying to recover damages, but they're not". 5. KU hasn't had a contracted apparel sponsor in over a year. KU and Adidas have been working off a contract that was never signed back in 2017. What are they supposed to do? Not have a program sponsor? Adidas originally got the contract because Nike said they would only provide support for football and basketball, not the other sports. Adidas provided all sports. What were we supposed to do? Sign with under armour (the company that supposedly already paid De Sousa to go to Maryland)? Sign with Nike (the company that is currently on trial)? Or should we grab a cool $2mm from Keds and be happy about it? 6. The De Sousa comment about having him released to other universities is ridiculous for two reasons; First, Under Armour allegedly paid his guardian $40k to go to Maryland. It isn't KU paying the player, it is every shoe company out there paying MANY players. Why didn't Forde mention that he shouldn't be allowed to go to maryland either? Maybe he's a bit biased? Second, why not appeal? 99% of all appeals to the NCAA have an outcome of a reduced punishment. SDS sat out games early in the year last year because the NCAA was slow to clear him as a semester addition. THEY cleared him. Then he sat out 24 games BEFORE he was punished by the NCAA. The perpetrators of the crimes got 9 months, 6 months, and 6 months. The cooperating witness (Gassnola) isn't even going to prison. So the kid, who all parties agree (KU, FBI, NCAA) didn't even touch the money tendered for his commitment to KU is being punished harder (2 years and possibly the complete destruction of his professional career prospects) than any of the criminals in the case. Oh yeah.. how many times has a player ever been released to any school but the school that gave them a scholarship in lieu of punishment by the NCAA? I'm guessing that is not a norm. 7. The "what about duke" comment is just asinine and showing Forde's bias once again. In the article he claims there is a wiretap of Kurtis Townsend working on the pricing for a Duke player. Then he goes on to say that Duke doesn't matter, even though a going rate for Zion was established and that Zion went to duke. Just having a "going rate" means that Zion is ineligible based on the rules the NCAA put out years ago because of Cam Newton. You can't bring Zion's name into the article to boost your claims and argument, and then say that he doesn't matter in the same article. I'm well on the record as saying the KU fucked up here. I don't even want to be an adidas school. I even believe that KU is going to get hammered by the NCAA this summer for all of this shit. But Forde's article is miss timed, unrepresentative of the facts, and is clearly biased in the reporting. No other way to put it. The simple fact is, there are dozens of other schools implicated and this whole thing is far from over. He looks like an idiot trying to take scalps right now because the KU scalp isn't one to take at this moment. It will be a lot easier to get it and many others this summer.