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Who is that guy? He looks like an asshole. I bet he coached at OU

This site may be the only good thing left about being a Texas fan. Although it will probably be a ghost town if Herman is our coach in 2021.

Jimmy was a full decade younger and had no prior health issues. Pete had spent more time in the NFL than college. I find it hard to compare Urban to either of those situations. He is supposedly calling people to find out what front offices are like in the NFL. People like Jimmy Johnson, if you believe the rumors. I'm prepared to be wrong if he takes an NFL job and smashes it out of the park. But I think you have listed the only 2 I can think of that have a successful history in both leagues. Others were spectacular failures. I can't see a medically limited Meyer going to the league nearing 60 and just figuring it all out. He is facing a huge learning curve there. He would be much better served taking a blue print that has worked for him at two football schools and running it at a third. And comparing Michigan State to Utah is like comparing A&M to UH.

Just like Saban?

I make it a habit to try to ignore Finebaum completely, but I have to agree with him on this. I think that the article by Thamel or whoever saying he was going to the NFL, with the main argument being that he wouldn't like college anymore because it is becoming like the NFL, was about the dumbest thing I have read. And there has been plenty of dumb things written about Urban. I mean, when your basis is that he won't have as much control over personnel and control of the program as he was used to, so he is just going to go NFL where he has NO control over anything except coaching. That is a stupid argument. Sure, he may end up in the NFL, but it will be a very bad fit and he won't be there long before his health issues start screaming back. I think if he is coaching again, it will be in college. I hope all of you optimistic fuckers are right, and this is just an elaborate smoke screen to buy time until next weekend. If we are still looking at the same situation next Monday, Texas Football will be as dead to me as Texas Basketball.

It will be when he ends up coaching for someone else

Just checking in to say I don't really care. Sure I'll watch, but my level of apathy is very high.

Haha. We must think the same

My therapist advised me to stay away from this site until after the new year

It’s a bit bittersweet to have kids that know the real deal with Santa. Our youngest doesn’t yet but she wants an iPad from Santa and the other two are in high school. Changes it quite a bit. It was pretty magical watching them Christmas morning when they were young. All that said, I don’t miss putting together toys at midnight with a major buzz. Merry Christmas to all!

Looks like one you have to eat with a fork, but I’m ok with that

That pizza looks fantastic. Where did it come from?

No

I almost never see an SEC logo on anything, and I live surrounded by SEC fans.

It was a devastating offense with Cam Newton, the human bulldozer that could also throw 60 yard ropes to take the top off of the defense. The Nick Marshall offense was the closest he came to replicating it. I told all of my Auburn buddies when they got Stidham what a great QB they had picked up. Turned out he wasn't much good as the first running option and that cratered the rest of the offense. Sounds like some other coaches offense I have watched too much of lately.

Missouri doesn't fit in the SEC at all. The fact that they are the 2nd westernmost school and play in the SEC East should tell you all you need to know about what the SEC thinks of them. Most SEC fans I know thought "Texas A&M - pretty good if you can't get Texas or OU; Mizzou - WTF????"

Adding Memphis could also help sink Tennessee, which would only help the Big 12 overall.

Auburn has a little brother syndrome that would make aggy blush.

Yep, and as already stated, you can't have all 4 time zones in one conference. Also, abandoning WVU doesn't seem like the right long term decision for the health of the league or the short term optics. Getting G5 teams that are fully committed to maximizing their football brand like Cincy, UCF and even Memphis would help. Playing games in Memphis and Orlando would help offset the SEC raid that A&M has opened the door for. A Louisiana team might be good. Not sure who to bring with UCF, but I am not sure that they would really care about being isolated. That school is printing cash and growing daily. They would sell their soul for a spot in a P5. If we aren't thinking long term with this re-org we are doing it wrong. East seems the way to go, and if you can't steal good names from the SEC and ACC, take the best G5 teams that have been all over the college football news for the past decade.

I have to admit I am curious to see what happens next. I never liked the idea of joining the Big 10, and while the Pac merger that was floated during all of the movement in the past seemed intriguing, I think it would have been a bad decision in hindsight. I am fully in the camp of expanding the league and reducing the conference games. That would allow us to play the same sham game that the SEC does, where most of the good teams duck each other and pad their records feasting on the bottom half of the league and 4 OOC games. That would allow a team like Kansas to find 4 teams they can beat, and change their record from 2-10 to 5-7 or something close to it. The top teams can pad their resume and not all knock each other off, while having more flexibility to schedule other P5 teams. I'm much less interested in the "who" mainly because I don't see teams like USC leaving the PAC or Arkansas leaving the SEC, even though it may be in their and the Big 12s best interest. Obviously, we should get the best teams possible, but I would rather look east than west. To @Al_4_ISU point, I think the discord in the Big 12 stems mostly from the point that it is the only P5 conference that most of us were alive when it began. The fact that Nebraska was butt hurt from the beginning didn't help. But I think it is good that OU and Texas seem to want to stay in the Big 12. I don't think abandoning the center of the US to join an edge conference is in our best interest long term. We need to stake down the center and grow. I was hopeful that CDC would help the Big 12 by focusing Texas and our admin on the health, growth and long term future of the Big 12. I am less optimistic based on current events, but hope I am reading that wrong. Regardless, there is something to be said about the passion and unity of the SEC and to a lesser extent, the Big 10. Those schools want to be together and it starts at the top. Texas and OU need to work to make the Big 12 a place to be. Arguing for an 8 team playoff that includes all P5 champions would seem to be the right place to start. Call me crazy, but I would personally be fine with taking UCF, Cincinnati or others in that range out east. I was ok with the WVU add, but wished we had picked up Pitt or Louisville to make them a better fit. I think we would need to do the same if we added someone like UCF. TL;DR - We should definitely look to grow and alter our model to avoid the round robin format that kills our top teams and makes our conference championship game a useless rematch.

You left out discussion of Florida cities

So is it Star Wars and shittiest Florida town day in here? I know that talk about Campbell and Kelly definitely doesn't go here, not sure how that was unclear. And for real, spoiler your mandolorian stuff @BachelorTrek. I'm 2 weeks behind. Mandolorian is the best Star Wars since the originals, especially the 2nd season to this point. Tampa / St Pete area is probably the best place to live for normal folks. For us Surly 1%ers that are all powerful lawyers or have other high paying day jobs that allow us to be on a Longhorn website all day while our supermodel wife sits at the house, West Palm is probably the place to be.

Jacksonville comes right after Tallahassee as the shittiest city in Florida in my humble opinion. Daytona and Orlando are honorable mentions.

But how good can he cook, and would he be comfortable hosting a cooking show on LHN? You know, the important stuff.