BradInATX

You sure are anxious to get your wife the vaccine for a guy who's been downplaying the severity of COVID for the last twelve months.

The CDC is one voice of many. What are your thoughts on the rest of the data showing longer waits between shots are more effective and that the fastest path to herd immunity is giving everybody a first shot first? Do you disagree with any of that? Have any thoughts? Or did you just need to vent today? It's okay, everyone has emotions.

*Looks at UK data where they're delaying the second shot indefinitely and they have the sharpest decline in cases in the Western World* *Looks at Astrazeneca data showing that the vaccine is actually more effective the longer you wait for the second shot* *Looks at data showing that one shot of Pfizer and Moderna is nearly as effective as two shots* "They're definitely doing it just because they don't like me and reasons and stuff!! Fucking COA.. I need to speak to your manager. It's not fair!"

See?

The city is saying "no maximum time" because a bunch of triggered retards will throw a tantrum and cry and moan about COA if a plague of locusts or nuclear war delays your second shot until the seventh week. This gives them time to reassess supply chain and continue to follow the science. AstraZeneca is actually more effective with a longer gap between doses: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/03/delaying-second-astrazeneca-vaccine-dose-does-work-study-shows.html Studies underway for Pfizer and Moderna on the same thing.

Or they're following the science and the new data that shows a longer delay between the first and second shot is at worst the same thing as, and very likely _more protective_ than getting them 3 (or 4) weeks apart. Anastasis made a very strong case a week or so ago for why we should only be giving first shots right now and delaying the second until everyone has had their first. Austin probably did a similar analysis and thought exercise and realized the same. They aren't doing anything different than many other countries are already doing based off of the science. What about Austin's plan do you disagree with? PS You should move somewhere else. You clearly hate it there.

Peppa and Blippy shouldn't ever be in the same sentence. Peppa is semi-educational and is pretty quiet and low key. Blippy is loud trash TV, the child equivalent of the Kardashian reality show. Also Peppa doesn't shit all over her friends for social media likes. Only issue with Peppa is my kid calling Christmas ornaments "baubles" all holiday season.

One of my #bothsides issues is that neither party gives a shit about small to medium businesses. This is a strong offering by Diamond Joe. Good job.

So Ted Cruz left his wife back in Cancun with his old college roommate? lol

RXMD keeping me green for today

Yeah, and a lot of the problem is that the media loves to take nuanced answers and make them black or white, because that's what their readers respond to. "We don't know yet if the mRNA vaccines prevent transmission too" gets turned into "Fauci says mRNA vaccines don't stop transmission". But - that's the world we live in, and part of his job is to figure out how to message his stuff to avoid that. Biden knows how to do that. Trump knows how to do that. Most high-level CEOs know how to do that. Most scientists probably don't.

I feel like Fauci scored some points with the public, especially on the blue side of the spectrum, because he actually did do a pretty good job of walking the tightrope of dealing with Trump's bullshit while still mostly putting good scientific information out. He managed to walk the line and keep non-junk science at the forefront while not getting himself run out of town. But the fact of the matter is that now Trump is gone and there are probably a lot better candidates for Fauci's current role. I feel like it's kinda like Chuck Pagano with the colts. He came in, had a great first season but had to leave to fight cancer. He became sort of a folk hero there. But when he recovered and came back, it turns out he was just an okay football coach. Both handled extreme adversity situations well, but once they were operating under normalcy, turns out there are a lot of people that could do a better job. I think you can respect Fauci and what he's done while understanding that he is flawed. But of course the smooth brains on #bothsides have made him a political lightning rod.

Yeah, I think it's sort of a twofold problem. The first is that a significant portion of our population does better getting information in small, black and white pieces without nuance. It's why stupid people get sucked into clickbait tweets and it's why Trump resonated with them. They are better at handling their leaders telling them to drink bleach and sticking with it than they are with the message changing as new information comes out. How stupid do you have to be to think that "we don't know yet" is in conflict with a more definitive statement a few weeks later? But I do agree that Fauci is out his of element as a public figurehead and spokesperson. He's a scientist. He pontificates out loud instead of being consistent with a message. It can be confusing. He needs to learn when to stop talking, and he needs to learn that "we don't know yet, we're working on it" is an acceptable answer to most people. And the people to whom that's not an acceptable answer are irrelevant because no matter what he says, they will be angry partisan hacks. He is a TMI guy. He is not a great "public persona at the front of an initiative". At all. They need to get him a spokesperson and have said person manage the message, and move him to more of a CTO role than CEO. He has gotten a lot of undue praise IMO. Great scientist I'm sure, not a great public figure.

Fauci is an over sharer. He needs to understand that providing nuanced information that requires critical thinking and more than 160 letters is confusing for a lot of people and that makes them angry.

I won't be vaccinating mine until they're adolescents if covid is even still a thing . They're basically in the zero risk group as is. My toddler is in day care in exurban Texas. He probably already had all of the strains of it.

Good to know. She's like 27 hours past and drinking white claws now.

Alright, 2/3rds

Anyone need 144 Covid vaccines? https://abc7.com/health/costco-set-to-administer-covid-19-vaccines-in-southern-california/10354951/

Y'all think I can save this cactus? rip in peace

Wife got second Pfizer yesterday, no side effects that she's noticed so far.

Fair. I think I'd prefer that folks like you respect the working class a little more. We can agree to disagree. You're still my boy. You too, anny, even if you're a fuckhead like a third of the time on here (queue spiderman.gif)

Eh. It's funny how the olds become important when we're pushing an anti-teacher agenda but for the past year lots of you have hand waved off the significance of Covid because it mostly kills olds. They're only important when it's expedient to a political agenda is what it looks like. If you want to force teachers into high contact situations then vaccinate them. If you don't want to vaccinate them then you can spend another month or so with your kids until the teachers are protected. You want to have your cake and eat it too. Our frontline workers deserve better.

Quote doesn't work right on Tapa, trying to quote your reply to me. Fair on police. You're sending mixed messages on vaccines. If you're saying that everyone who has elevated public exposure due to work should get priority then I agree fully. Sack and I talked about the same thing. I think all of them should go 1A. Police, teachers, emergency responders, essential retail, military, etc. But you keep harping on olds who are not forced to expose themselves. So your messaging is confusing.

We aren't forcing millions of seniors to go and share the same air as 3,000+ other human beings either. To be fair, you're one of the few on this thread that I actually believe would personally go into a building with a mask and thousands of other people. You're already certainly around many Covid+ people at work. I know for a fact a lot of folks who are going full Karen and demanding unvaccinated teachers expose themselves would, under no circumstances, walk into a building with 3000 teenagers, mask or no mask. I do still find it hypocritical of you. I've seen you on some of the other threads and you're a dude that seems to be fine with police having tanks and military gear despite there being no evidence that they need it. You want them protected still. And yet teachers are beneath your concern. Why?