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Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
There’s a segment of the fan base that will only accept someone with ties to Paterno as the next coach, and why they never fully accepted O’Brien or Franklin. It had nothing to do with either of their legitimate failings, only their perceived lack of reverence to Paterno. Those people also assume that anyone who ever had any ties to Paterno is off limits in the eyes of the BOT, and that’s the only reason Terry isn’t getting a look. My assumption why Terry isn’t getting a legitimate look is because, until he was thrust into the role, he seemingly didn’t want to be a head coach. His comments and lack of drive up the ladder seem to indicate that as well. I don’t know the man, you do. Maybe he did want to be DC and Franklin privately turned him down. He seems like a good man, but it also seemed like until a couple months ago he had no interest in being a DC or HC. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
It doesn’t seem like a bunch of offers went out after Freeman and the other top 2-3 choices weren’t interested. One was to Elko who stayed put when it got matched or bested by A&M. Then he zeroed in on Sitake and spent a month trying to convince a Mormon to leave BYU for some stupid fucking reason. Thought he had him so he cut bait on Chesney et al not expecting the hard sell from the LDS and the cookie cash once word got out. By the time he realized he lost him all of his plan Cs had signed on elsewhere because signing day was 2 fucking days away. So he fucked himself because he didn’t give the Tongan a deadline that left him any room to shift gears. Now he has to try to sell a job to someone he never considered after losing almost the entire recruiting class. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
Maybe that’s the plan, just contact every coach and get schools to spend all the money on extensions and then psu swoops in and buys all the transfer talent… -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
They only ended up owing Franklin $9 mil after the offset from his VT contract. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
There’s no home runs left but you could call up some NFL OC and pull off a double through the gap with that schedule. That’s about as good as they can hope for at this point. I don’t see any way they don’t end up with a downgrade with their first hire after Franklin, but I thought that was most likely as soon as they fired him. Even with the probable downgrade in the short term after Franklin, it was time for him to go after the back to back losses as 20 point favorites. If he had just lost to Ore, osu, and IU, he probably doesn’t get fired and everyone just says “same old James”. Without a doubt one of the best program builders in the country. Several obvious flaws that showed his peak was 2nd tier in the big ten. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
It’s not as deadly as it would have been before the transfer portal. As long as they have a coach in place by the portal window, there is enough talent on the roster that with enough NIL money they could be ok next year. They have an unbelievably soft schedule next year. USC, Mich, Wash are the only teams they play that are in the top half of the big ten this year. Depending on how those 3 teams are next year, they could feasibly play the entire season without facing a ranked team. OOC is Marshall, Temple, Buffalo. No matter who they hire they can buy their way through that schedule. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
4 star edge rusher from Philly. Had offers from OSU & Michigan. Thats gotta be a weird feeling watching your entire recruiting class evaporate around you. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
Until Penn state hires Pete Carroll before Vegas can fire him. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
USF -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
Kraft put himself in an impossible spot. Who would you be confident in being better than Franklin? Smart, Day, Dabo, Freeman, Lanning, DeBoer, Sark, and at this point you probably have to put Cignetti on that list. None of those guys were leaving their current job for Penn state. Then the next tier of guys that could maybe do it, Elko, Drinkwitz, Campbell, Lashlee, Sitake, etc. All of those guys are trying to get to the level that Franklin just got fired for getting to. Why would you leave your current job for Penn state when you know that anything short of beating Ohio state and winning a national championship is grounds for firing? Especially when your current school offers you an extension and increased NIL spend. Then there’s the crop of G5 coaches and up and coming OCs that Kraft i guess thought were beneath what he could hire. There was almost no chance whoever he hired would look like an upgrade on the front end because none of those guys were available. And then he waited around for so long trying to get someone that looked like an upgrade that he missed his chance on all of the up and comers that were a dice roll to be an upgrade. So now he’s left with calling Brian Daboll because someone took a picture of him leaving his house in a Penn state hoodie after he got fired. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
Whether it was Franklin, or someone else that put them out, all of the trolling is funny and warranted. Along with the person who had crumbl delivered to the psu athletic admin building Monday night. Leaving yourself with zero options short of trying to lure away a guy that seemed destined to spend his whole career at BYU, only to get outbid by the Mormon church and a cookie tycoon deserves to be mocked. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
From what I’ve heard, which is probably bullshit, is that Stein interviewed but Kraft didn’t feel he was ready for the job. This would have been while he thought he had Sitake on the hook. Declined to offer Stein & kept Chesney waiting and lost him while trying to reel in Sitake. Sitake was the second coach offered after the first offer was turned down after his school extended him. Some think it was Elko, some Rhule. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
I don’t know why, but the “Welcome home” in so many announcement posts bothers me when the guy has no previous ties to the program or area. Feels like that phrase should be reserved for guys returning to their alma mater, home state/area, or a school that they at least had some sort of previous connection to. Sounds dumb to say welcome home to a guy that has no connection to a place and will leave the moment he has some success and someone offers him more money. -
Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?
heso replied to GreenspointTexas's topic in Football
If you’re an AD, it seems like one of the top priorities for your job would be to have a list of coaches you want to target ready to go at all times. Even more so if you feel your current guy’s seat is slightly warm. And then be ready to go asap. If you’re the one doing the firing, and picking your time, how are you not ready? When Saban retired he made his decision on the 8th, told his AD on the 9th, told the players on the 10th. That night Byrne had his top 2 targets of DeBoer and Norvell. Interviewed both of them on the 11th, offered DeBoer the job on the 12th. He was announced on the 14th. 48 hours from Saban’s announcement to having his guy. Granted that was Alabama, the offseason, and the same agent for Saban, DeBoer, and Norvell. And Saban had warned Byrne that it was coming in the next year or two. But 50+ days? So what, you thought you had your first (2nd, 3rd) guy but his school matched and he backed out? And then you let all of the G5 coaches and OCs get snapped up while you wait for the Tongan to receive a sign from the ghost of Joseph Smith if he should stay in Utah? -
Vrable looking like dave wannstedt out there with that mustache.
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