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Posts posted by heso
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I really hope they manage to make it a full season without someone in the top 100 owgr winning a tournament. 123, 132, 174 so far.
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On 7/29/2022 at 2:47 PM, Wulaw Horn said:
The majors stand to lose if they block the LIV guys out- especially if they end up with another 5-10 guys next year. The majors aren’t supposed to be about the PGA TOUR but rather assembling the best players together.
I don’t see how a masters without a lot of those guys is preferable to one with them, but I suppose I will watch anyway.I don’t think they need to bother blocking anyone. The majors can keep their exemptions as they are and the LIV guys can keep qualifying as they have been. I don’t see any of they majors directly blocking anyone that has an exemption. If someone chooses to go play on a tour that doesn’t qualify for owgr points, we’ll that’s on them. They won’t lose any sleep over it when they lay down on their pile of cash. Most of the guys that have any real hope at competing in majors have exemptions for now anyway. That’s the only real way the tours can hope to limit the young stars from jumping to LIV. It won’t become an issue until guys like brooks and Bryson start to lose their exemptions, if liv is still around by then.
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‘Money didn’t play a role’: Why Charles Howell III says he’s ditching lucrative PGA Tour career for LIV Golf
https://golf.com/news/why-charles-howell-iii-ditching-pga-tour-liv-golf/?amp=1
You’re in your 40s and starting to bounce in and out of the top 200 OWGR. We all believe that you just couldn’t pass up the chance to play on the storied team crushers with Bryson.
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8 hours ago, TonyTexas said:
McCord, Feherty, Barkley. Who’s next, Carrot Top? I’m not sure this is the correct route for LIV to take in their quest to be taken seriously.
It’s a continuation of them trying to buy and fake their way to cool without having any idea what that actually is.
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On 7/19/2022 at 9:42 PM, Gil Bang said:
Fuck yea. Love mineo’s
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19 hours ago, babysdaddy said:
Cam won $2.5mm today, about $1.5 mm less than Brenden Grace won at that abortion in Portland
I’ll remember Cam Smith shooting -6 on the back 9 plus that par save on 17 to win his first major when Rory had the engraver practicing his name Saturday night, probably forever.
I forgot who won the event in Portland less than 48 hours after it was over.
if I’m a top 10 golfer in the world I’m making more money than I’ll ever dream of spending (unless I have to keep Paulina honest). At that point my legacy is what’s important and the LIV tour means nothing more than an extra zero in my bank account that I’ll never spend down.
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6 hours ago, dcar00 said:
Tiger Woods is the king of bullshit canned lines/marketing spin and has been for almost his entire career. So is Rory. I think you are way over estimating the give a fuck that Reed, BDC, Koepka, DJ have in hoping some message board dude is gonna be impressed with them. They wouldn't be able to hear you with all the cash stuffed in their ears anyway.
Its way easier money than the tour is. who gives a rip what they do. there will be 4 guys taking the place of BDC, Reed, Keopka DJ in no time on the tour.
I will laugh though if one of the LIV guys wins the Open.
Not just message board assholes, but the golf community in general, and of that lot DJ is the only one that I believe actually doesn’t give a fuck. Koepka tries so hard to act like he doesn’t give a fuck be he definitely cares. He said someone should get fired for not featuring him in one of what was probably 3-4 different commercials for the 2019 us open.
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1 hour ago, dcar00 said:
why do they have to say it? It is obvious. As it relates to their job to make a living/money do they have to care about something else? If someone rolled up to you and said "hey I've got this new job. It is legal. It is the same thing you already do, but It is about 50% of the work you do today and there is a huge massive life changing signing bonus. The only catch is you'll never be a C-Level dude. In fact, no one may remember your name" would you take it?
I don’t really care if they say it or not. What the players say is really the least of my concerns. It sort of irks me that they are trying to feed us bullshit canned lines about family time and more freedom.
but I also know that, considering the douche bags that have jumped, that Bryson, Reed, Koepka, etc are absolutely going to expect us all to give a shit and be impressed when they win a 54 hole, no cut, weak field tournament because they beat a few other douche bags and a bunch of scrubs.
every single aspect about it seems forced and phony. Even the fucking tag line on their website: “golf, but louder”. It’s all so cheesy.
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I can’t see why I should I’ve a fuck about shotgun starts. How is that better in any way for me, the tv golf viewer on Saturday and Sunday? I don’t want to try to figure how which holes a guy has to play down the stretch. I want to see the guys in contention play the same holes consecutively.
Why are they blasting music? What kind of music? Doo-wop? Thrash metal? I assume since their trying to pretend to be cool it’s some sort of modern pop mixed with euro house music. That seems really stupid.
The team aspect is so fucking lame. Fireballs? Niblicks? Come on. It’s like they sat in a board room in Saudi Arabia and someone said “how can we get people to care about this?” And someone me else said “well I hear people are really invested in teams. Let’s make up some teams and i guarantee people will love it.” And it never crossed their mind what ties most people to a team.
the whole thing is so contrived and phony and stupid.
the guys that are any good should just come out and say “this is a shitload of money and I don’t give a fuck about anything else.” And the other guys should say “I’m well past my prime and I’m never going to win anything of any significance ever again and this is a shitload of money.”
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28 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:
wolf is going to follow. This how you cut into the pga, poaching the young players.
not sure coody’s (from above) background, but lot of young players would like guranteed money and not being broke
These young guys don’t really have anything to lose. It’s not like the LIV guys are going to get lifetime bans. So the LIV folds after a few years, they get to bank a ton of easy money instead of grinding to make cuts. And they come back to basically the same place they left off with a pile of cash in the bank.
Wolff has missed 6 of his last 10 cuts and finished T25, T40, T60, T61. Hes dropped from 12th to 77th in the OWGR the last two years. He’s earned $1.4 million this year and probably got offered 10x that to jump.
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13 LIV players from the last tournament plus Reed and Bryson qualified for the US Open:
DJ - T24
Richard Bland - T43
Reed - T49
Bryson - T56
Phil - MC
Sergio - MC
Oostie - MC
Kevin Na - MC
James Piot - MC
Taylor Gooch - MC
Brandon Grace - MC
Sam Horsfield - MC
Jinichiro Kozuma - MC
Jed Morgan - MC
Shaun Norris - MC
All except Bland will lose rank in the OWGR.
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13 LIV players from the last tournament plus Reed and Bryson qualified for the US Open:
DJ - T24
Richard Bland - T43
Reed - T49
Bryson - T56
Phil - MC
Sergio - MC
Oostie - MC
Kevin Na - MC
James Piot - MC
Taylor Gooch - MC
Brandon Grace - MC
Sam Horsfield - MC
Jinichiro Kozuma - MC
Jed Morgan - MC
Shaun Norris - MC
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2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:
These two posts prove how amazing Scottie played to remain in contention. Look what happened to the other 3 guys.Not just them, but Rory and Rahm too. They both played themselves out of it, but to battle off 1, 2, & 3 OWGR players on Sunday at the us open is damn impressive.
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Holy shit. The fucking goal posts being the exact width of the opening between the trees. Guys, if you weren’t sure, hit it between the trees.
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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:
it’s very ok to have a short par 3. Long par 3’s are boringLove the short par 3. Was hoping the green would stay hard. It was playing over par through 3 days.
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The short par 3 set up at 108 today and the green is soft.
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11 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:
BOOM 💥 HERE COMES SCOTTIE !!! 🤘
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Greame McDowell saying in his post round interview that he hasn’t heard if half the guys he’s playing against this week. -supposedly, Reddit.
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5 minutes ago, Blotto said:
If ESPN has the scorecard from the LIV tournament, they dont make it easy to find. I guess its likely there is no data feed they can hook into, just thought it was interesting that the leading sports internet site isnt posting scores.
From what Reddit said the LIV website didn’t even have a leaderboard.
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6 minutes ago, ztejas said:
I guess my point is that even if he was healthy and crushing it I think he'd still bail.
Maybe, but other than DJ, no one who is crushing it has bailed.
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8 minutes ago, ztejas said:
There is no way that Bryson thinks that he can't play competitive golf. He hasn't been playing well because he hasn't been healthy. We'll see if it turns into a chronic issue for him but he's still on the right side of 30. I think he's chasing money and isn't interested in playing lower-level tour events.
You have to be kidding. The NFL is the most ruthlessly competitive sports league on the planet. Oh, you don't care about this week 15 game against Detroit? That's cool - we'll just cut you and find someone that does. Have you watched Hard Knocks? It isn't the NBA.
Bryson’s thoughts often don’t line up with reality. He thought he could overpower Augusta and some people actually believed him when he said it was a par 67 for him. He’s gone T34, T47, MC since then.
I’m not saying he’s finished at competitive golf. He’s just not healthy enough to be good right now. He got offered a bunch of money to play against a field of mostly scrubs. He has to be better than the 72nd ranked golfer to finish top ten. He might not make the cut with that on the PGA tour. So he can beat up on scrubs and get paid while he works out the problems with his body.
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Every single one of the top guys on some level of a downward trend. The group of guys in the top 50 have more missed cuts than top 10s in the last year.
The most obvious was Phil, he got an insane amount of money. he’d likely never win another tournament on tour.
Bryson’s body might not allow him to be competitive on tour on a consistent basis.
Rickie, assuming he joins, might lose is pga tour card on his own.
Reed has gone from 7th to 36th in the last 2 years and has 4 missed cuts to to top 10s (7, 3).
Bubba is down to 70th.
all of those guys are bigger name guys that are struggling for big payouts on tour and presumably got huge payouts to jump over because of their name.
If you’re struggling on tour and get offered a huge paycheck to finish top 10 by beating a small handful of scrubs, why not take it? It’s good for your bank account, good for your ego, and potentially better for the perception of your current golfing ability
Add in a bunch of fading internationals, a bunch of no-names outside the top 200 and a few amateurs that are facing the grind of working up through the KF tour.
For DJ it was just a big paycheck. He seems to not give a fuck about anything other than the economics of it.
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Lolwut? Bryson and Reed have combined for 3 wins in the last 3 years, and the last on was in March of 2021. They’ve played a combined 68 tournaments since their last win.