Posts posted by heso
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16 hours ago, WBT said:I keep seeing 1-X, with X gradually increasing. What is the 1? Is it the thing about the PA supreme court extending the deadline to receive mail in ballots? I'd call that more of a draw due to irrelevance than a win.
The 1 win was a PA court ruling that the SoS didn’t have the authority to extend a deadline for first time voters that were voting by mail that didn’t provide appropriate identification to provide that identification. I’m not sure what the circumstances would be for that because, at least in Allegheny County requesting a mail in ballot online, you had to provide either your ssn or driver’s license number to submit the application.
But apparently there was some scenario where a first time voter could request a mail in ballot and then have until 6 days after the election to provide the appropriate identification for their vote to count. The SoS extended that deadline to 9 days. The court ruled she didn’t have the authority to do that.
Whatever this small number of ballots were that fell in that extra 3 day window won’t be allowed to count. But they were never counted in the first place. They were segregated and waiting for the appropriate identification when the lawsuit was filed. So Biden will miss out on some tiny number of ballots that would have marginally stretched his lead.
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8 minutes ago, MoJames said:From a lawyer perspective is there any reason at all to hold onto evidence of voter fraud at this point? I don't see one and don't believe there is any fraud, but I need to prepare for holiday discussions.
Georgia will have it’s recount completed and results certified in a week. Pennsylvania and Michigan will have their election results certified by the 23rd so you should feel comfortable that at your thanksgiving dinner you can laugh in all of their stupid fucking faces for thinking dotard would win.
If, somehow, those states haven’t certified their elections by then we will be in full banana republic mode on our way to civil war and after thanksgiving dinner you should take stock of any guns and ammo in the house, potentially stealing any gun safe keys you can find.
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1 hour ago, DigDug said:
The Trumpers are split between being convinced that this is the first chink in the armor and that it sets massive amount of legal precedent about Secretaries of State power and will lead to a win on some subsequent lawsuit that will cause millions of ballots to be invalidated AND/OR assuming that these ballots were mixed in with the full pool of mail in ballots which now, having no record of how many there were, invalidates the entire lot of mail in ballots statewide making the state unable to certify their election and thus unable to send any electors to the EC.
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Just now, 4th&Five said:
Lawyer needs to say that honestly to the judge. Trump can then shout about how terrible the fraud was. They said nobody had ever seen fraud like this before. A judge came up to me, a big guy, he had tears in his eyes and he said sir, I’ve never seen anyone treated so unfairly.
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49 minutes ago, Js1 said:
These people, many of them volunteers, are counting hundreds of thousands of ballots for 12 hours a day for multiple days while people are watching over their shoulder for any sign of something suspicious. Sometimes they mix it up - they put down 3650 for Biden and 3855 for Trump when it's the other way around. Or they add an extra digit by accident when inputting things into a computer - Trump didn't get 3677 votes, just 377, but someone fat fingered it.
This is why they recanvass and audit counts before certification. Humans make mistakes and they catch the mistakes during recanvass.
Just making sure you're not thinking it is something nefarious. Per the article, they found a 200-something vote error for Trump in one county and a 100-something vote error for Biden in another county. It was not just against Trump.
I totally get it. I know that there are going to be mistakes and a few hundred votes is meaningless.
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Just now, BehoId, The Underminer! said:
200 votes means 99.99%+ accuracy in counting in AZ. I think it is just a recognition that the real world differs from theoretical.
Under normal circumstances I couldn’t give two shits about a few hundred votes, but if Trump co. is going to contest every vote, I want to know where all of his incorrect votes came from.
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10 minutes ago, gyroprotagonist said:
yeah, the states that refused to start counting/prepping mail in ballots prior to election day is criminal. No one batted an eye when when Texas was blue for the first 2 hours or so as mostly red votes came in during the night and eventually the state turned red. But for states that did not process mail in voting beforehand and the state turned from red to blue it's somehow a conspiracy.
The GOP legislatures did this intentionally knowing there was no way a state could process and count 3 million mail in ballots in 1 day. The day after the election, worst case scenario Trump and his team can cry fraud, best case scenario they have days to file lawsuits in a hope to delay or stop the count.
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If it gets to the point where a state’s electors go against the popular vote of its people, or even don’t send electors, its time to start building the gallows. Right in front of the capital building.
Im barely joking. This is all fun and games up to that point, but if it comes to that, traitorous motherfuckers can fuck around and find out.
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1 minute ago, Loch Ness Monster said:
Think what Trump is trying to sell right now is donations from his followers and the threat of violence if he were to ever be arrested.
Those around him know its over.
Everyone in politics knows it’s over. I’m pretty sure Trump knows it’s over, and this is all about setting up the next con.
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1 minute ago, Thiefery said:
I had to turn it off.. didn't think that would get me as upset as it did..like i really wanted to punch him through the TV.. Fuck man.. just gonna mix me some watermelon ciroc and club soda and watch some more Cobra Kai..
I couldn’t do it this time. I tried last night just to see if any of it had even the slightest shred of evidence and I had to turn it off.
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16 minutes ago, Thiefery said:
it's not something big..it's all fucking lies man.. how the hell does FOX allow all these heresay, there's nothing concrete, just accusations
Because they care more about their viewers than anything else. The rubes have spoken: Trump is god and anyone that refutes that is a leftist commie.
Fox tried to do the right thing on Saturday. They called the race for Biden and then tried to shift into opposition party mode. The trumpkins would have none of it. Their god said he was cheated and Cruz and Graham validated it. Once someone outside of the Trump family spoke up to support that narrative the breaks were off and the GOP went full throttle into the abyss.
From where I’m sitting, it LOOKS like this is all just pandering to the base and to Trump’s bruised little ego. He has the base, and if he does indeed start a PAC, he’ll have all of the small Trumper money. As of right now, he’s just asserting his complete control over the Republican Party and the politicians have no choose but to play along.
If this goes 1 day past November 23rd and PA doesn’t certify their election results, that’s when shit starts to get real. Up until that point it’s all just pandering and preening for Trump and his minions.
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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:
The court cases are meh. What’s more concerning is what the PA state senate and house are trying to do
This is what’s really concerning to me. We already knew that trump could do anything and not lose support. What this shows is that republicans at all levels of government are realizing that, as long as they are in a safely red seat or safe majority they can do absolutely anything, up to and including aiding and abetting subverting the electoral process.
Anything done in the name of the Red team is not just tolerated, but encouraged.
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14 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:
AZ - Trump needs to hit his flush on the river
GA - Trump has a pair of jacks but Biden hit his straight flush on the turn
NC - Biden needs to hit an inside straight draw on the river
PA - Trump needs to hit runner-runner quadsIt hurts, doesn’t it? You can’t believe what fell. All your hopes... dashed. Your dreams... down the toilet.
Your fate... [gestures toward the southern district of New York]
2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
in Cloak Room
And not only that, but time will expose the full scale of how badly he fucked up the response to the pandemic, initially downplaying it just to save the stock market because of his assumption that tanking would hurt his re-election and then him downplaying it because he couldn’t let the base think he fucked the response just to save the stock market.