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The incidents that get stopped before they can happen don't make the national news.

Because I actually take the time to mentally compose myself and look at possible consequences before making a decision instead of knee jerk reacting emotionally without thinking about possible disastrous outcomes to these actions? On this board I'm not an idiot, I'm a unicorn.

You realize, oh who am I kidding of course you don't, that the decision to go to the bunker is not the President's to make. It is the Secret Service's decision to make and the president does not have a choice in the matter. (The Secret Service had to literally carry Dick Cheney to the bunker after 9/11.)

Fine, it's their decision. However, if some kid shows up at a school in Minneapolis and shoots 20 kids I do not want to hear a peep out of them.

What good came from the U.S. boycott of the 1980 Olympics? It changed nothing in the world geopolitically. All it did was deprive a group of athletes who trained for four years of their opportunity to compete in an event they had their hearts set on competing in. Same with the U.S.S.R. boycott in 1984. They changed nothing. All the sham of the end of the gold medal basketball game in 1972 did was leave a bad taste in the mouths of the American players. It did nothing to help world peace. Do I even have to mention Black Monday in Munich? No mixture of sports and politics has ever helped either sports or politics.

I would have added this to my other reply from you but I blinked and the editing time expired. I challenge you to find one post I have made anywhere on this site condemning the peaceful protesters acting anywhere in the country over this. I have no problem at all with them. I applaud them. My issue are the ass clowns who are literally adding gasoline to the fire.

Time and place for everything. You don't fart in church. Politics and sports don't mix. He was welcome to kneel down in front of San Francisco City Hall anytime he wanted to. Plus he wasn't kneeling on a football field, he was kneeling on a football field during the playing of the national anthem. Again, you don't fart in church and you don't scratch your ass when the choir is singing.

True but so far in the 21st century the burning down of inner cities and the plagues of fuckwads setting shit on fire and looting does seem to be limited to cases that result in murder (or at least death) so doing something about those would seem to be the highest priority. To quote Chuckie above me, so shut the fuck up and let's go from there.

That's fine with me but it is never going to be enough for the screaming banshees on the SJW front. They only see the first domino standing upright. They have no foresight or knowledge of all the other dominoes that will tumble once the first one goes. Compromise (like most words in the English language) is not part of their vocabulary.

I'm not defending it when it happens but the media wants you to think it happens literally hundreds of times more often than it actually does. It both helps their ratings and meshes with their political views. Has anyone in the media(other than Ben Shapiro which is where I got this info from) pointed out that in 2017 The Washington Post said there were 68 instances of unarmed African-Americans dying at the hands of police in the entire country? Now that is 68 too many but that figure also includes the suicide by cop cases and cases in which they went for the cops guns. That is 68 African-Americans in a country with a population of over 30 million African-Americans so it is not happening everywhere and all the time like the media wants the public to think. Let's also stop and discuss the level of expectations that we are placing on law enforcement. In whole they deal with tens of thousands of cases where they have to make a split second decision based on extremely limited information and if they get that decision wrong someone (either them, other cops, suspects, or innocent people and bystanders) dies. Granted this didn't apply to George Floyd, there is no excuse for the decisions made there but my overall point is still going to stand. If they shoot when they shouldn't shoot someone dies. If they don't shoot when they should someone dies. And society is trending towards expecting them as a whole to go 10,000 for 10,000 when making those decisions. That is an impossible standard for any profession to obtain no matter what level of training and experience they have. Would anyone do the job they are doing now if everyone doing that job as a whole were expected to make 10,000 important decisions in a row correctly? And what the long term result of these expectations will be is that the better the cop the more likely he is to say "fuck this shit I'm getting a job working as an internal investigator looking into white collar crime cases for some bank or financial company or at the very least a director of security at some factory or shopping mall." Meanwhile the worse the cop the less likely he will have alternative employment opportunities so the more likely he will stay being a cop, knowing that the police unions will do everything in their power to keep him employed. Eliminating instances like George Floyd should be a reasonable goal. Eliminating every single fuck up some cop anywhere in the country makes is never going to be. The only possible way this could happen would be if every police force everywhere in the country went 100% Robocop and who knows if that would even work.

And now to destroy a whole narrative and probably get negged through the center of the earth in the process. Bold parts are my emphasis. https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/

Last I heard it was 16 but that was at least 24 hours ago.

Abolishing government unions, that would be an interesting political platform for the Democrat Party to toss around. I imagine once they stopped to think about the precedent they would have an easier time throwing around manhole covers.

Like it's possible to agree Floyd was murdered and that also does not give anyone the right to destroy innocent people's property and take away their jobs and businesses? Everyone is going to remember the killing of Floyd. Who is going to remember everyone else (cops, protesters, rioters, looters, and anyone else unlucky enough to be in the wrong situation at the wrong time) who has been killed due to the response?

I have no problem with anything in this post but if this was a problem that had an easy solution we would have found it by now. Everyone on all sides of the issue only wants to skate around the edge of the pond where the ice is safe. Until we go out on the thin ice of the issue we are going to dance around the problem instead of solving it. However going out on that thin ice makes everyone involved with the discussion uncomfortable because to have the honest discussion you have to risk other people having instant emotional reactions to some questions that have to be asked to make a serious attempt to change things and no one wants to risk falling through the ice by asking them.

Let me ask you this question. When the people doing the looting return home are they thinking "What happened to George Floyd isn't right" or are they thinking "I got a new TV"?

Oh please, this is Al Pacino at his worst overacting here.

Yeah, I can't remember the exact work or details but I found my way here via a six degrees of Thujone. Also, other than the EMAW site where my password is in some kind of internet limbo and I have yet to figure out any way to communicate with anyone on that site without it all the other K-State forums I have come across are like reading paint drying.

I doubt Blacklab sees moderating this place worth having another heart attack over.

Maybe if we actually had some sports to talk about things would change a bit.

Trump did not call for murders of protesters. His exact Tweet was "when people start looting people start shooting." Looting is not protesting. Looting is looting and people have the right to protect their property and possibly their lives from being threatened. No one involved with running or working in those stores that were looted had anything to do with George Floyd getting killed. Causing innocent people to lose their jobs and their property is not an effective method to convince them to join your cause. In fact it is more likely to drive them away from your cause.

Because there are twats like Upper Westside who go looking for posts to neg rep in non-Cloak Room threads simply because they don't like the posts that poster makes in the Cloak Room. He's apparently ran out of Cloak Room posts of mine to neg rep so now he is going back through the NFL playoff threads and neg repping all my posts in those threads.