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From 1980 to 2024, OSU has the #27th ranked program by average end of year Massey Rating. Since 2000, that climbs to #25. That puts them in a peer group with Arkansas, Louisville, Marquette, Georgetown and Memphis. They should be able to get a top-tier coach. I would have thought they could get someone better and younger than Alford.

I think we would rather play Virginia. Colorado State is a much more experienced team. 95% of their conference win shares come from seniors. Are efficient scoring the ball, ranking 18th in FG% vs. #257 for Virginia. CSU has beaten some good teams including: #11 Creighton by 20 points! in Kansas City #21 San Diego State by 8 #23 New Mexico by 8 #26 Colorado by 5 Virginia's best win was waaay back on November 11, beating #29 Florida by 3 in Charlotte. Since then, they haven't beaten a single top-30 team. The best they have done is beat #34 Clemson by 1. They have seen a number of good teams, but the results have been ugly. They played UNC to within 10. Duke blew them out. Virginia Tech blew them out. Memphis blew them out. Wisconsin blew them out. I wouldn't be surprised if CSU beats them by double digits tonight.

What's even more insane about this record is that EVERYONE knows about it and bets against him in March, which moves the spread in Tennessee's favor. And he still fails to beat it.

I think we match up better vs. Purdue than we did back in 2022. We couldn't match their size at all. We started Timmy Allen (6'6, 18 min) and Christian Bishop (6'7, 23 min) and both fouled out. Disu only got 9 min. Brock got 16 min, mainly at PF. Andrew Jones (6'4, 35 min) had four fouls as well played most of the SF minutes. If we played again, we would have Disu (6'9) and Shedrick (6'11) getting post minutes and could even throw Dillon Mitchel (6'8) in at SF if we wanted to go big.

Hmmm. Not so sure about this. The committee would have LOVED to match us up as an 8 seed vs. Aggy as a 9 seed. The fact that they didn't tells me we were very comfortably in the 7-seed or better range.

Hare are our tourney seeds going back a 15 years now that this year's seeding has been announced. For as ugly as this season was, we've had objectively better regular seasons than this only 4 times in the last 15+ years (not counting last year). 2024 – 7 seed 2023 – 2 seed ---------------------- 2022 – 6 seed ---------------------- 2021 – 3 seed 2020 (Covid, Likely 10 seed) 2019 – Missed tourney 2018 – 10 seed 2017 – Missed tourney 2016 – 6 seed ---------------------- 2015 – 11 seed 2014 – 7 seed 2013 – Missed tourney 2012 – 11 seed 2011 – 4 seed 2010 – 8 seed 2009 – 7 seed Is a 7-seed good enough? No. Will RT consistently deliver better results than this? Probably not. But it is a little above average for us recently, which means it is going to be very tough to fire RT if he keeps delivering these results. Good, but not great - the worst place we could be as a fanbase.

IF we happen to get past Tennessee (or if they get upset before that), I really think we could beat Creighton. They are the worst 3-seed in my opinion.

In reality, OU and KState would favored over probably 25 of these teams.

Haha F OU

Don’t put it past Barnes looking ahead to Texas and dropping that opening game.

Big 12 will likely get in 9 including both Texas and OU. SEC will likely get in 8... Flip UT and OU over to the SEC and now they have 10 in the tourney and the Big 12 has 7. Yes, the Big 12 is the best basketball conference, but the SEC isn't exactly terrible.

Graph is interesting, but it isn't weighted at all by the importance of the players who are injured (beyond whether they are a "top 8" player or not). More interesting would be injury minutes combined with win shares or some other metric to understand the likely wins that were missed due to injury.

We were ranked #6 in the AP to end the year. I believe Stanford was like #10 and a 3-seed. I'm pretty sure we were favorites.

I loved that 2008 team and was at the game in Houston when we played Memphis. DJ Augustin was a great college basketball player that year. Averaged 19 PTS, 6 AST. 1st Team All-American, 1st Team All-Big 12. Wooden Finalist. Bob Cousy Award. Great player. However... The chasm between Augustin and Derrick Rose was as big as the Grand Canyon. Augustin looked like a JV player going up against him. Rose was much bigger, faster, more athletic, better in just about every way. Within the first five minutes of that game I knew we had no shot. It was depressing because we were really good.

Still waiting for this.

Yeah agree, but was going for simplicity. Nobody really talks about that as much as Final Fours anyway.

Here are the resumes of the guys you listed. You really have two sets... the end of career coaches and the mid-career coaches. Barnes and Samson are pretty similar in that they always have solid teams, but don't really have the hardware to show for it. Mark Few only has 2 Final Fours, but fourteen top-10 finishes. Calipari has a great resume but seems to have lost his fastball with NIL and the portal. Bill Self (61) - 2 Title + 2 FF + 7 EE + 3 S16, 15 top-10 finishes Tom Izzo (69) - 1 Title + 7 FF + 2 EE + 5 S16, 10 top-10 finishes Rick Pitino (71) - 2 Title + 5 FF + 5 EE + 1 S16, 12 top-10 finishes Mark Few (61) - 0 Title + 2 FF + 2 EE + 7 S16, 14 top-10 finishes John Calipari (65) - 1 Title + 5 FF + 6 EE + 3 S16, 14 top-10 finishes K. Sampson (68) - 0 Title + 2 FF + 2 EE + 3 S16, 4 top-10 finishes Rick Barnes (69) - 0 Title + 1 FF + 2 EE + 5 S16, 6 top-10 finishes For the mid-career guys, I have a hard time saying Hurley, Beard or Bennett are better than Scott Drew. He has a title plus more elite 8s and more sweet 16s. And he started from absolute zero at Baylor. Also hard to put Beard above Bennett who beat him for a title and has better tourney success and top-10 finishes. Need to see more out Hurley who never even made a Sweet 16 before last year. Scott Drew (53) - 1 Title + 0 FF + 2 EE + 2 S16, 4 top-10 finishes Dan Hurley (51) - 1 Title + 0 FF + 0 EE + 0 S16, 1 top-10 finish Tony Bennett (54) - 1 Title + 0 FF + 1 EE + 1 S16, 5 top-10 finishes Chris Beard (51) - 0 Title + 1 FF + 1 EE + 0 S16, 2 top-10 finishes Mick Cronin (52) - 0 Title + 1 FF + 0 EE + 3 S16, 2 top-10 finishes Hubert Davis (53) - 0 Title + 1 FF + 0 EE + 0 S16, 0 top-10 finishes (only 3 yrs)

I was at the Gonzaga game. It was a great atmosphere no doubt, but it didn't approach the peak loudness that the Erwin Center was capable of. I was at a KU game, I think around 2008 when we won at home. My ears were ringing for a couple of hours after the game it was so loud. That was probably the loudest sporting event I have ever been a part of. There were a couple of games like that, but they were few and far between.

If all you care about is defense, then this is the worst squad since 1999. Fair enough. Instead why don’t you post the KenPom final ranking by year? The one that sums up offense and defense and strength of schedule and everything else. Let’s see what it says.

Ole Miss fan interest is gonna be pretty low next weekend.

Nah. There is a 3rd option. This Ole Miss team might just be a bunch of knuckleheads that aren’t responding to his coaching.

Watching this Ole Miss vs Aggy game, Ole Miss doesn’t look like it is better coached than our squad. Bad shots and turnovers constantly. Giving up tons of offensive rebounds. Just not good.

The defense looked pretty damn ugly in January of last year, and that blame lands squarely on RT. I agree 100%. The success we had at the end of the year? Well in that case, credit should be given to the player-led team who finally overcame that terrible RT coaching and remembered the lessons taught to them by Beard. \Disingenuous argument