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Mid-90s Rockets or when?
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I have been thinking CP3 for Smart would be a good trade for a while. Boston could use some veteran leadership. And Smart takes way too many end of game shots to be as inefficient as he is. And Phoenix needs perimeter defense and toughness. I think both teams would win more if they made it.
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I'm not sure how much PT we have to give. Abmas has played ~36 mpg the last two years. Hunter needs 30+ minutes. Weaver played almost 30 mpg last year. Mitchell only got 17.5 mpg last year and is going to need more. Disu only got 19 mpg last year, but got 31 mpg at Vanderbilt. He needs more minutes. I can't see any way we have more than 18 mpg available - and even that is stretching it a ton. Here is what that might look like: We aren't going to get an elite player who will be happy playing that few minutes... and it also results in too few minutes for our good players. So I would rather get a mature veteran transfer like Tristen Licon who will be a good culture / practice guy and give us 5-8 mpg as needed. Or a young, raw player (like Anamekwe) who can get the same amount of time, but develop into a contributor next year.
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The best Carr ever did was average 19 points a game on 45.1 eFG%. He was definitely a great scorer. That said, Aßmas is on a different level. He averaged 24.5 points on 58.3 eFG%. He also shot 43% from 3 one year on over 8 attempts per game. And he also did it in the tournament, earning NCAA All Region honors. d Whether he can do it in the Big-12 is debatable, but he will also have much better surrounding teammates.
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As far as starters go: Last year: Hunter + Mitchell + Disu + Carr + Allen This year: Hunter + Mitchell + Disu + Aßmas + Shedrick I would say advantage 2024. Hunter, Disu and Mitchell will all be better with another year of experience. Maybe a lot better. Aßmas is a slight upgrade over Carr in my opinion. His defense won't be as good, but he is a better shooter and scorer. Allen and Shedrick is probably a wash. Obviously they play different positions, but we are basically swapping one for the other in the starting lineup. Allen is more skilled, but was basically a power forward trapped in a small forward's body. He can't really shoot from deep, so we lose nothing there. And he can't really bang with the big guys. Shedrick is a better free throw shooter (79% vs. 69%), a better rebounder, and a MUCH better interior defender. It also lets Disu move to the 4 where he is better. I would expect more 3s from Disu this year for that reason. The main loss from last year is Rice.
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Does anyone have access to stats showing Texas' various lineups used last year (with minutes, +/-, etc.)?
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I guess I have assumed all along that Shedrick will be starting, but now I'm not sure. He started 19 and 15 games for Virginia in the last two years, respectively. I couldn't imagine him leaving an elite program as a starter to come to Texas and play off the bench. He also mentioned wanting a bigger role as a primary reason for why he left. But I agree with everyone that getting a versatile guard/forward who can shoot 3s and score off the dribble (while playing defense) - and moving Mitchell & Disu from the 3/4 to the 4/5 seems like a better potential team. That said, there is nothing preventing us from going to a 3-guard lineup for long stretches of the game with our current roster. I assume that both Weaver and Cunningham will get plenty of run at SF - and both of them have shot over 40% from 3. That could move Mitchell and Disu to the 4/5 during those periods. This could be a nice lineup: Aßmas + Weaver + Cunningham + Mitchell + Disu Or go small for stetches and haves shooters errywhere. We had a similar lineup last year with Cunningham playing the 4 and Disu at the 5 that was effective. Hunter + Aßmas + Weaver + Cunningham + Disu
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That group shoots better than you are giving them credit for. Disu shot 37% from 3 on 3.8 attempts per game at Vandy. He can shoot. Shedrick is an 80% free throw shooter as a big man. He only shot 7 3s in his 76 games at Vandy. It just wasn't part of their gameplan. But I would be shocked if he isn't at least above average in the midrange if he can shoot free throws at that rate. I mean he shot ~65% from the floor last year and it wasn't just dunks. Abmas and Weaver are plenty deadly from outside though. That will open everything else up. Brock as well.
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I flipped the script, lol. That is my conference minute allotment.
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Mitchell would give us a lot of versatility. With him playing "small" forward that gives us a ton of size in the starting lineup. I doubt we would play zone, but a bottom 3 of Mitchell and Disu on the outside with Shedrick in the middle would be sick defensively. I would expect to see Mitchell make as big of a leap as Disu did last year. Maybe a bigger one. Getting him back would be absolutely huge. A lineup of Hunter, Abmas, Mitchell, Disu and Shedrick will be a problem for anyone. And then Cunningham, Weaver and Onyema off the bench is very solid. I don't think we really need anyone else outside of maybe a bench guard who can give us 10 mpg. Here is a guess at how the minutes would shake out in a tight conference game:
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Waaaat? A Barnes team regressed toward the end of the year? No wai.
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I personally would start Cunningham at the 3 and then bring Weaver off the bench for any of Hunter, Abmas or Cunningham depending on how the game is unfolding at the time. Agree that we need another guard though. I would look to bring in someone wit upside who we could develop for a few years. If Mitchell wants to come back, I don't see why you would take any of those other guys over him. By all accounts Mitchell had a good attitude last year and we all know how much upside he has. With literally every other player, there is culture risk. These are all players who are leaving another program for one reason or another. A large percentage of them are upset about something. Maybe they will fit in to the culture RT is building. Maybe they won't. But there is more risk with every single one of them. So for me to take that risk, the upside has to be higher than Mitchell, and that seems like a tall order. Moreover, I think it is a bad look as a program that if a player tests the NBA draft waters and doesn't enter the portal, we tell them "Nope playa, it is time to go. Enjoy the G-League". I don't think if that got out it would benefit us on the recruiting trail.
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Yeah no shit. We have all read all of those quotes over the last month. No need to dredge them up to read them again. All you did was ensure more slap fights instead of actual productive conversation.
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Thank you for posting all of those quotes. Really adds to the discussion.
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F it. Just bring back Dillon Mitchell and let's roll.
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Meh... Perryman averaged 3.5 mpg last year. Figure he will also get about that many mop-up minutes this year. And he only played in 11 games.
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Looking at lineups, if we add Caleb Love, the minutes allocation could look something like this: How great would it be to always have two of Hunter, Abmas and Love on the court at any given time... and often all three of them. Then you have a guy like Weaver off the bench who can also play any of the three guard spots. Given that Cunningham has played all of the 3, 4 or even 5 spots, I'm not sure we need to add more bigs except for maybe a development project who is content with 10 minutes. But honestly I would rather give the minutes to Onyema, Disu and Shedrick. Even if you get into foul trouble with the bigs, a lineup with Hunter + Abmas + Love + Cunningham + Disu / Shedrick could be very good.
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Agree. I like the fact that the staff is being honest with recruits about what will be expected of them. Seems like the best way to avoid a lot of drama and infighting about roles and such once they get here. Derka - are you warming to the Caleb Love idea now that Spencer is out? Or would you rather take one of the forwards? Or just allocate more minutes to who we have?
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Here are some comments from Roy Williams during his freshman year: "Defensively, I think he could be one of the best defensive guards I've ever coached. Playing his position, he has strength, he has speed, he has jumping ability, he has great feet. He's been shooting it well in practice. He's been really working at it, I mean you saw after one of our games, he was still here at midnight working on his shot. He's working at it and jut a tremendous young man." Here are some draft notes: Love is an aggressive scoring guard with a downhill style of play. He attacks the defense and has both power and quickness on his drives to the hoop. He doesn’t shy away from contact and he’s a guy who can finish above the rim. His step-back game is promising but can be inconsistent and he’s streaky from outside. He’s a good competitor who’s energy and hustle rubs off on his teammates, especially when he’s hitting shots. With an impressive 6-9 wingspan (measured at Nike Skills Academy) and broad shoulders he’s clearly got the size and frame for the NBA level and fits where the NBA is going with versatile guards who can score. He’s not necessarily a pass-first player but he does a good job of pressuring and collapsing the defense with his scoring ability, which can get open shots for teammates. Love can get a bit careless with the ball and over dribble at times but that’s what happens when you’re the best player on the court (and his decision making will improve with age). And some other draft notes: A proven winner, Love has the tools to raise the ceiling of any team. Even at the NBA level, there’s a clear pathway to him being a key piece of the rotation on a championship team one day. Love enters year four at the college level as a decorated college prospect. During North Carolina’s championship run in 2022, he scored more than any player in the tournament. Furthermore, he knocked down countless clutch buckets which proved he’s able to step up in the biggest moments. He’s the ultimate competitor that can do a bit of everything. The upside as an isolation scorer with a ton of athleticism and speed is intriguing. He’s a strong driver with a quick first step and a dynamic package of dribble moves. Defensively, Love is also able to make plays. He’s generated over a steal per game over the course of his career, leveraging his quick hands and ability to jump passing lanes. At 6-foot-4 and nearly 200 pounds, Love has the frame to be physical when defending opposing guards. All of this seems like he could be a great primary option off the ball at the college level. I love having competitive guys on the roster. Out of all the intangibles, that is the attribute that I most want to be a common thread through every player.
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This is why we can’t have nice things
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San Antonio Spurs 2023 Offseason - Voodoo Dolls and Ping Pong Balls
HookEm replied to Mitch Cumsteen's topic in Basketball
Would the Spurs be crazy to target Draymond Green in free agency? He still averaged 9 PTS, 7 REB, 7 AST last year and played 73 games at 31.5 mpg. Pop isn't getting any younger, so I think they should immediately shift into "win now" mode. Draymond could help establish a winning culture and was still 2nd team All-Defense this year. His passing and style of play would also fit well with the Spurs. He could also be a good mentor for Jeremy Sochan, who may someday have a comparable game. -
So to summarize, we are looking heavily at the following Caleb Love - SR - G - 6'4, 195 - All Tourney Team ('22) Cam Spencer - 5th SR - G - 6'4, 205 - 1st team Patriot League ('22) Julian Phillips - SO - F - 6'8, 198 - SEC All-Freshman Arthur Kaluma - JR - F - 6'7, 220 - Big East All Freshman ('22) Personally I would rank them in the order listed, with a strong preference for Love or Spencer over the forwards. I think we can find another big guy in the portal as needed. Getting another elite guard would let us play small and make us a much tougher out IMO. Love has been playing basketball against the highest levels of competition his whole life and he has already shown tourney success. His efficiency isn't great, but has improved every year. His 2P% has gone from 34.8% -> 38.0% -> 45.5%. His turnovers have dropped from 3.1 -> 2.7 -> 2.4. I would expect him to show continued improvement with another year and a change of scenery. Here is how both Love and Spencer compare to Abmas and Weaver... and Carr and Rice in the year before coming to UT Caleb Love - UNC, 22-23, 35.7 MP, 3.5/7.7 45.5 2P%, 2.2/7.4 29.9 3P%, 3.1/4.0 76.5 FT%, 16.7 PTS, 2.8 AST, 3.7 TRB, 1.1 STL, 2.4 TO, 2.8 WS, 14.5 PER Cam Spencer - RUT - 22-23, 31.5 MP, 2.3/5.1 45.3 2P%, 2.1/4.9 43.4 3P%, 2.2/2.5 89.4 FT%, 13.2 PTS, 3.1 AST, 3.8 TRB, 2.0 STL, 1.4 TO, 5.5 WS, 21.4 PER Max Abmas - ORU - 22-23, 36.0 MP, 3.4/6.3 53.0 2P%, 3.5/9.4 37.3 3P%, 4.6/5.1 91.1 FT%, 21.9 PTS, 4.0 AST, 4.4 TRB, 1.1 STL, 2.0 TO, 6.7 WS, 24.7 PER C. Weaver - UTA - 22-23, 29.5 MP, 2.1/4.5 46.5 2P%, 1.0/2.6 40.2 3P%, 2.2/3.2 70.3 FT%, 9.5 PTS, 2.0 AST, 4.6 TRB, 0.9 STL, 1.2 TO, 3.2 WS, 15.4 PER Marcus Carr - MIN, 20-21, 35.8 MP, 3.9/9.1 43.3 2P%, 2.1/6.5 31.7 3P%, 5.3/6.7 79.9 FT%, 19.4 PTS, 4.9 AST, 4.0 TRB, 1.3 STL, 2.3 TO, 3.8 WS, 20.7 PER Jabari Rice - NMS - 21-22, 32.3 MP, 1.9/4.2 39.1 2P%, 1.8/5.2 34.1 3P%, 2.8/3.5 77.9 FT%, 11.9 PTS, 3.1 AST, 5.1 TRB, 0.6 STL, 2.5 TO, 3.4 WS, 14.3 PER Holy hell, Abmas is putting up some numbers. A step above the other guys in almost ever way. Great efficiency on really big volume. He is going to be awesome. Love has pretty similar stats to Carr's last year at Minnesota (where Carr was actually a year older since he had to sit out a year after transferring from Pitt). Since whoever we recruit is likely to play on the wing, I would rather have someone who can attack and get to the line. I think Love fits the bill better than Spencer, who seems to be more of a long range sniper.
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