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Correct. The question is what it would take for YOU to support the hire.
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The problem is, you can't just give him the job for the next year. You have to give him a 5-year contract or it will hamstring our recruiting. I think that is the central issue. Of course we have more money than anyone, so even a big buyout shouldn't be a problem.
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Now that the regular season is over, I'm wondering what most fans think Rodney Terry needs to do to earn their support for hiring him full-time.
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What would it take in your mind for him to earn the job?
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Literally no Texas fan would have supported hiring Scott Drew in year 8. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that he is a good coach and that is after National Title and multiple Elite 8s. Here are some more: Mike Krzyzewski first 8 years: 124-106 (53.9%) Jim Calhoun first 8 years: 113-90 (55.6%) I'm not saying that Rodney Terry is going to be the next Mike Krzyzewski. I'm only saying that it is possible he will surprise some people with the level of success he has here if we indeed hire him (which is definitely not a done deal yet).
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Just once I would like the selection committee to give us an easy seed.
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Bill Self in his first Division 1 job at Oral Roberts. Scott Drew in his first EIGHT years at Baylor: 127-116. 0.522 Billy Donovan's first four years: 62-52. 0.544 Yes, I realize this is cherry picked data. I'm just saying that previous results don't always mean that is the best you can do. People learn. Some situations are a better fit for individual skills than others.
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It's amazing that this player-led team was able to coach up Disu to this degree.
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Just a hunch, but if this staff was with Rodney Terry at UTEP, I think he might have won a few more games there. I thought the offense looked great tonight. Tons of movement without the ball and cutting. Great chemistry. Hopefully we keep it going in the tourney. The game was a thing of beauty.
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Just popping in to congratulate Terry in delivering an absolute ass whipping to KU. The staff also deserves credit for coaching up Disu. He has been incredible lately.
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Texas is pretty close to full strength. Timmy Allen is a good player, but our best lineups don’t have him in them. IMO. Best: Hunter + Carr + Rice + Disu + Brock (or Bishop).
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Not sure I agree here. He spent a lot of his career in juco and is in the NJCAA Hall of Fame. His only previous shot at D1 was 30 years ago. In NJCAA he went 233-54 (81%) and won two National Championships. In DII he went 108-49 (73%). In NAIA he went 100-39 (72%). Then his first year at Tech he takes them to the Sweet 16. The guys is a bit of a freak and a hardass, but I honestly think he is a pretty solid coach. If Tech was in the ACC this year they would probably be one of the better teams. A mid-major or weaker D1 team could do worse.
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Texas vs OSU, Big XII Tourney- tonight around 6-ish
HookEm replied to shadow_operative's topic in Basketball
Have you ever considered that when you play one of the best defenses in the country, it tends to make your offense look shitty? -
I'll also say that last time, the former players were really pushing for Ivey. And CDC still went big game hunting and got Beard. So obviously CDC is capable of making up his own mind.
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CDC actually did play the games. He was a scholarship athlete in track and field at Oregon State and UC Santa Barbara. He also played varsity basketball and football in high school. I'm sure he leans on this experience quite a bit. I'm also sure he values the input of our former players and will want to keep them close to the program. Alumni like TJ Ford may not BE coaches, (well, actually TJ Ford is a coach) but I have no doubt that they can give good feedback based on their experience. The decision is still CDCs.
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Rodney Terry winning Coach of the Year has taken a terrible, embarrassing situation for the University and turned it into a feel-good story. It is remarkable. If he takes this team all the way to the Final Four or beyond, this would be the type of thing they make movies about. If we have a Final Four run and end up hiring him, there will be a huge amount of positive buzz on the program. And the players all seem to genuinely like playing for him. I think it could be leveraged well on the recruiting trail. The key is that we have to win BIG over the next month.
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I mean, we had eight National Top-100 players on the roster, not counting 3-star Isaiah Taylor who actually played in the NBA. If you consider that the NBA drafts 60 players a year, if all our players played to their potential we should have had 5 drafted. Ridley was the #14 player out of high school and should have been a 1st rounder. Compare that to this year. We only have four National Top-100 players on the roster. Dillon Mitchel (5), Arterio Morris (19),Tyrese Hunter (34), Rowan Brumbaugh (93) I really think if Barnes had been around to coach that team one more year he would have had a good year.
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Because the P12 sucks. 😀
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Speaking of experienced rosters, it would be hard to top what Shaka inherited back in 2016. That was one of the most experienced, upper-class heavy teams we have ever had at Texas. Going into the season you had: Isaiah Taylor - Jr - Wooden Preseason Watch Jevan Felix - Sr - 47 career starts Connor Lammert - Sr - 39 career starts Cameron Ridley - Sr - 85 career starts, Big-12 All Defense Demarcus Holland - Sr - 74 career starts, Big 12 All Defense Prince Ibeh - Sr - (Became Big 12 Defensive PoY in 2016) Kendal Yancy - Jr - 28 career starts Shaq Cleare - Jr - 28 career starts (at Maryland) And to that we added Kerwin Roach (#39 recruit), Eric Davis (#47 recruit), Tevin Mack (#53 recruit) Man that had the potential to be a great team. Instead we topped out ranked #23 and got a 6-seed and crapped out vs. Northern Iowa. What a terrible way to start his tenure here. \Rant
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It always amazes me when women go back men who abuses them. Tech getting back with Beard would be like this happening at an institutional level.
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You are actually the one who brought up Shaka in saying we wouldn't have considered Terry for the job. My point is that Terry is doing better than Shaka did here. Was it a good point? Probably not, lol.
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Counter Point: Let's say we would have hired Shaka to replace Beard right when he was fired instead of promoting Terry. Would we have a better record or worse record? I'm going to go ahead and say Terry has done a better job with the team than Shaka would have, all things considered. Shaka would have found a way to ruin the chemistry. (That doesn't mean I want to offer Terry the job right now)
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10-8 wouldn't be .500. Just saying. Yes, UCLA played well at home. Let's just assume if you played in the Big 12 you would also win all your home games. But... UCLA hasn't been great on the road. In conference, you only played two top-50 (Pomeroy) teams in Arizona (11) and USC (34). You lost both of those games. And you barely won by 1 at WSU (54) and by 4 at Colorado (68). Not to mention getting beat by Baylor (9) and Illinois (28) at neutral sites. If we extend that to the Big 12, and assume road losses to everyone better than USC, that means you get losses at: Texas (8), KU (9), Baylor (14), WV (17), KSU (18), ISU (22), TCU (25) It is also reasonable to think that one of OSU (40), OU (51) or Tech (53) would get you at home since they are all better than WSU who you squeaked by. Boom. There are 8 losses. And that assumes you go undefeated at home, something KU, Texas and Baylor were all unable to do.
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I haven't been that interested in the speculation about Terry because the season has still been underway and it was pointless. That will all change within the next two weeks. Either we will be on our way to the Sweet 16 and the rumbling to hire Terry will start to really pick up (and get exponentially louder with each win). Or we will lose the first weekend and his door will be closed forever. Given that we have only one Final Four in my lifetime and it was 20 years ago, I'm rooting like crazy that we get there - even if it means we wind up with Terry. It isn't out of the question that this team could win it all if our shots are falling. We can definitely beat anybody in the field.
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Under Shaka, there were times where we would be behind and he would press and push the pace. We always looked awesome. We'll see what he does in the tournament.
