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Good fan, hope to sit near people like you!

Believe as you please, this is nowhere near the only trailer park issue in Sec. 6 row 59. I have no way of knowing (and neither do you) of what is representative of a majority of fans. Yes, I'm older than you at 59 and been in that area since I was 10 so I do have a longer perspective. And, as stated in a previous post I stayed until the (bitter) end and yes as we waited to get out of the row I looked at this big pile of cans and wondered just exactly how many there was. Funny how defensive some are about this number of cans issue. If you like getting drunk, by all means, do so. Just accept the consequences.

Perhaps, I would have preferred to win. I really enjoy going to games, but maybe he likes pissing himself, puking and dealing with cops.

Well, I stayed until the end of the game. Mr. 9 beers missed his team winning.

Row 5 in the Centennial suite is not a good view, but rows 1+2 rock. I'm just telling you what I have observed. I have no idea how much they had to drink before the game or where. Don't know if they took any drugs prescription or otherwise, don't know their medical history. DO KNOW that what I said was observed and factual. Do know that the Tech fan year before last had 9 beers during the game (counted the empties after the ... situation unfolded), by sending his wife and her friend to go get them for him. Do know there was drinking in the stands before, but didn't have these problems. I guess it would be pretty hard to smuggle in 9 beers. Enjoy your trailer park.

I've had it with a-holes that think they are the only one in the stadium and drunks, I'm sure you can imagine the largely overlapping Venn diagram on that one. The alcohol sales greatly diminished (I'll even say ruined) my enjoyment of the game day atmosphere. Silly me, I go to the game largely to watch the game. Go ahead, be an asshole and stand all game, drink beer until you upchuck or pass out and piss on yourself or get hauled out by the cops (yes, I have seen all of that first hand since the beer sales started). After my family has spent 48 seasons in Sec 6, I've moved to the Centennial Suite just get away from the trailer park that our game day experience has become. Expensive, but everyone behaves with courtesy towards others.

It's like I have a brother!

There are options if you disagree with the rules of a society, simply choosing to disregard them has always had a price, but it is a option.

Agree on all points!

Take it for what you will, I heard that Red was pissed because he wanted some input ( I think he was championing Gruden) and Patterson didn't even return his calls. I'm not saying Red's $$$ gave him the right to make the hire, but Del Conte sure as hell would have returned the call! I hate Patterson and everything he did on a par with my OU hate. Edit: I apologize, that rant had nothing to do with Strong or his overwhelming ineptitude.

Agree totally!

If I recall, didn't we get to be sick of that shit for another 2-3 years after that game? I truly thought when he left that we would likely never have a coach that was that bad/poor fit again in my life... wrongo! We even ended up with an A.D. that was a bigger P.O.S.!

I don't think we can be friends.

I NEVER felt bad for him. I rooted for him while he was here but after that, I couldn't care less. Actually got a laugh out of the Arizona situation. He was well paid for his time here, he did modernize the offense but 500 yards on our D seemed to become a somewhat normal thing. In the crowd setting, he came across as a tool. In a crowd, Charlie came across as nicer, but not too bright. These perceptions were part of that overall picture of the program. Maybe not wholly irrelevant, but so far below W/L performance as to be a footnote.

It's only arrogance and superiority if you're good, otherwise, it's delusion!

Dear Lord, I had forgotten about that. How about the time they made him show up to flip pancakes for fans/donors at some gathering. By then it was too late, everybody had formed their opinion of him and it usually wasn't good. His pride in his wine cellar would have been fine if he had ANY people skills. Instead, it just made him look like that much more of a snob. Two quick stories, at his introductory, " meet the coach" gathering at one of the hotels around 35 and 290 he seemed irritated to have to answer questions from the (mostly donor) crowd. Like Charlie, I hoped he would do well but as we left the building I just had a really bad feeling. Years later, a top 2% donor who is a really great guy but just couldn't stand Mackovic is at an away game. We are losing. and Mackovic pulls off his headset and goes back to a bench to look (stare) at his playbook. Big donor has a big voice and yells out in a sarcastic tone "OH JOHN, OH JOHN... WHAT KIND OF WINE GOES WITH AN ASS WHIPPING?!" Mackovick actually tried to get the guy thrown out. I had a feeling we would have a new coach soon.

So, we agree. Very good.

In totality no, but to his W/L record you are clearly correct.

I will go on the "I think he was a nice guy " list. It's a quality missing in a number of people and coaches. I wanted him to succeed, just as I wanted Akers, McWilliams, and Mackovic to succeed. I wanted the rules of conduct to succeed. Of all of our head coaches, current and ex, I would have a coffee or sit down to dinner with any of them except Mackovic. Just because I don't want to have a conversation with a self-important jackass. Now, if I may vent. To say Charlie is an awful head coach is an understatement of historic proportion. I think he would have done better without Patterson as AD (who wouldn't), but STILL would have FAILED MISERABLY! UCLA game left me with an awful feeling of foreboding. I turned out to be even worse than that. So while I would have a coffee with him, there are phrases he could say that would make me leap across the table and go after him... "we just have to play better!", ANYTHING containing "It's ALL about... (line work, turnovers, running the ball, stopping them on 3rd down, takeaways, ball control, keeping them off balance, fill in the blank). ", or ANY mention of having baked a cake. I give ZERO credence to the whole "previous coach left him with nothing" argument, that's someone being an apologist for a bad coach. Good coaches take what they are given and show improvement game over game and season over season. Yes, other factors come into play, but we got worse, a LOT worse as we went along. USF is now experiencing the same thing, the explanation is so obvious it's painful. Thank you for putting up with my venting, I feel better now.

I was still afraid we would stick with him after the Kansas debacle. Felt like a millstone was lifted from my neck when I heard he was gone. Hadn't felt that good since... Patterson was fired!

Happy New Year! I Love you ALL (like Brothers).

Sooooo, doesn't this turn of events means that Mack and Manny have to play each other every year? That should be fun.

We had the same thing, only with Baylor. I guess I'm in line to get punched by their woman's basketball coach!

Is there any chance the guy that got mowed down by the ref was TCU's new AD? Please let it be so!

Can anyone tell me what you could possibly tell recruits (that would work) after you lose to Kansas? I honestly can't think of a thing.