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  1. 1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

    If you really think those are the only reasons the majority of people who voted for Republican candidates voted that way, there really is no room for discussion or finding middleground. 

    Excuse our pessimism, but it can be difficult to pin down "republican values" considering they did a complete 180 on multiple pillars of conservative ideology because Trump told them to.

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  2. 45 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Actually, I'm not sure we really do.  That whole sovereign immunity thing tends to keep the gubmint from having to compensate its people for most of its torts.  There's that pesky Tort Claims Act, but it's pretty stingy

    That's fair. I was more referring to settlements on high profile indefensible cases. But those are at least already in the courts.

  3. 4 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

    So we're negotiating to pay some "undocumented non-citizens" up to $450k each, $1M+ for some families for our border separation policy when then willingly put themselves in that situation because their alternative was life threatening??  And now we will compensate them with crazy amounts of money? How is this supposed to ease the current border situation? I'm all for improving on how we handle things, but this is ridiculous.

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/28/us/politics/trump-family-separation-border.html

    Migrant families separated at the border by the Trump administration may be eligible to each receive hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation for the damage inflicted on them by the policy, according to several people familiar with the matter.

    Some families could receive as much as $450,000 for each member who was directly affected, the sources said. However, negotiations between the Biden administration and lawyers representing the families are not over, and many might get far less, they said.

    About 5,500 children were separated from parents at the southern border under President Donald J. Trump’s “zero-tolerance” policy, mainly in the spring of 2018. Most were from Central America, but the measure also affected people from Brazil, Mexico and Romania, among other countries.

    “There is no question that the Biden administration is doing the right thing by providing meaningful monetary compensation, given that the U.S. government deliberately brutalized these families, including babies and toddlers,” said Lee Gelernt, the lead negotiator on behalf of the families and deputy director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s immigrant rights project.

    We have a long-standing practice in this country of persons being compensated by the government - local, state, and Federal - when those governments inflict harm or deprive those persons of rights. 

    Id be more interested in hearing why these people don't deserve the money, other than "they came from shitty situations so what can they expect to happen?"

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  4. 28 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

    So you are against the mandatory  childhood vaccination schedule?

    Why are you asking him? He's already stated that he doesn't "understand" vaccine mandates. This is, presumably, an adult male with a college degree who has grown up in a country with numerous vaccine mandates since the day he was born, but can't seem to wrap his head around the concept that can be explained in a single paragraph. 

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  5. 3 hours ago, Zeus said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/23/california-legal-illicit-weed-market-516868

    The legalization experiment isn't working out too well for the dipshits in California. Don't know about Colorado but it seems like it may be a better system. Instead of just leaving people alone and allowing personal grow ops it's turned into a big corrupt shit show in Cali with government fucking it all up. Who would've guessed that would happen.

    Since you want to go CR, here's this from your article:

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    "California’s cannabis law lets local officials decide whether to open the door to cannabis or slam it shut. So far, most are opting for the latter.

    A whopping 68 percent of California cities ban cannabis retail, including wide swaths of the Central Valley. Other areas have imposed strict caps on the number of available licenses, limiting market growth."

     

    So, the conservative parts of CA have pushed back against legalization and are refusing to allow dispensaries in their cities and counties. In Pasadena, it took almost a decade for city leaders to agree to a single, licensed dispensary because of pushback from concerned citizens over what a dispensary would do to their communities. Are you suggesting that the state of California force more conservative cities and counties into having dispensaries? Regardless, its a nuanced issue and that belongs in CR. But if you prefer to stick to soundbites about stupid libs and California big government, then I guess the football board is as good a place for that as any.

     

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  6. 1 minute ago, DonkeyCigars said:

    Imagine saying "I'm not going to play your games and answer stupid what if's" when asked to answer a question about a direct comment and quote made. You said it was obviously wrong and mocked the idea that a trillion dollar company will necessarily mean there are billionaires due to how organizations are both created and owned. I said "wow, that's completely wrong but in off chance I'm wrong, can you walk me through your thinking?". 

    What law could be changed tomorrow that would co-exist in a world where a trillion dollar company could exist and no billionaires? Just answer the question.

    You can't, because you are wrong and your understanding of business is horrendous.

    These are the kinds of people who want to tell businesses and economies what is best-- people who have no experience or understanding of how things actually work. Woefully ignorant, but emotional and romantic.

    Any wholesale change to American capitalism and the way America does business will be revolutionary. Literally. 

    Its truly a shame that the only two options we have are "status quo" and "complete and violent revolution." If only we lived on a planet with more than one country to look for examples as to how to best handle inequality. Oh well.

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  7. Just now, Macanudo said:

    Then explain  Atlanta or Charlotte or Nashville.  They don't have oil.

    LOL, I never stated that oil is a necessary to growth. Perhaps Texas would've become the banking capital of the Southern US. Hell, maybe Henry Ford would've decided Texas was a good place to build cars. That's my point - there are far too many variables to accurately predict anything. 

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  8. 50 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Yes, Texas has some backwoods hillbilly idiots.  Now imagine if that makes up 90% of your populace.  I’ve spent significant time in MS, it would still be a shithole if it was floating on oil.  It’s a hyperbolic comparison of the highest order.  New York is nothing but Louisiana with more populace and wealth.   

    I think the point is that prior to the discovery of oil, Texas was an agrarian based state much like the rest of the South. Its an impossible question to answer, but the theory presumes that without oil, you don't have the wealth. You don't have the wealth, you don't have the capital to diversify industry. Do Houston and Dallas grow into top 10 cities in an economy based on growing cotton and cows? Do the number of quality universities get built/funded if the economy is based on farming and ranching?  

    I'm not asking you to answer those questions because, well, you can't. Neither can I. The whole thing is a fantasy exercise with about 10,000 possible branches in the timeline, which makes absolutist declarations kinda silly.

     

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  9. 4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

     

    Oh cool, cool. Referring to his victims as "victims" is too loaded, but calling them criminals (despite them not having been charged with any crimes) is just fine.

    When Rittenhouse gets off because of this bullshit, we're definitely going to see some more right-wing violence.

    Wow. I've asked for that jury instruction on all my trials. So have a number of my colleagues. I've never seen the motion granted.

  10. 6 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

    FDNY and NYPD are full of shitheads.  A lot of them are racist assholes who treat NYC taxpayers (you know, the people who pay their fucking salaries with our taxes) like shit.  9/11 was 20 years ago, and because of the sacrifices that were made on that day, they think they are above the rest of us. 

    No more free pass.  You fuck around, you find out.  Also, most of them live in Staten Island which explains a whole lot.  Staten Island is New York City's asshole.  It honestly has more in common with New Jersey than it does NYC.

    You've just described every city's police and fire departments. Shit, we have members of the Los Angeles Fire Department who live in Texas and fly into CA for their shifts:

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-08/lopez-column-more-than-100-la-firefighters-live-outside-california

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