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1 minute ago, Jiggy-Z said:
In the "just asking questions" realm of things:
From what we have seen of the capital invaders thus far, how might these executions have gone down?
I have seen pointy flags, zip ties, various sprays, and some other club like weapons. Additionally, I have heard some reports of long guns and concealed weapons.
So what weapons do we actually know these guys had or have reasonable suspicion of them having?
I mean we don't actually think they were going to be hung on the grounds, trampled to death, or beaten to death. Additionally we don't have any reports of Capital police being disarmed and their firearms being used for intimidation or other purposes.
I want to be as correct as possible when having to explain this, so I need a little clarification on the means and the actual armament. Thanks.
A cop was beaten to death and a woman was trampled to death.
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14 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:
Help me out....
Is the Bakery analogy a good one to point out the hypocrisy of people upset about the removal of Parler?
"the same people who think it's ok for a bakery to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding are upset about the removal of Parler from app stores and web hosting services?"Kinda. A good way to think of it is this: Current conservative ideology would grant you the freedom to discriminate against someone for their sexual orientation, but not for political expression including sedition.
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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:
Like Hawley and Cruz, everything Marco is saying has to be taken in the context of his future Presidential ambitions. He's trying to win Trump's base on his side, and/or he's trying not to get primaried.
Remember, Marco's seat is up in '22, and he's in Florida.
Some of it is actual self-preservation. As in his life. There are going to be assassination attempts against the GOP members seen as insufficiently loyal to the coup.
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48 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:
"wouldent?"
Thank you. I spent way too long trying to figure out what "would ent" meant, and what "ent" stood for.
Forgot who we are dealing with here.
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8 minutes ago, Gourmand said:
Who was the surly law and order asshole spamming the George Floyd thread every ten minutes with "Antifa rioter" images tweeted by that magat piece of shit Miles Cheong?
Curious if he's weighed in....You mean @workswithseed?
He's probably moved on to the issue most pressing today: the communist-inspired private market regulating itself.
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4 minutes ago, Gourmand said:
What the fuck, that dumb twat Jenna Ryan opened her Twitter account again. Holy shit, this dumb asshole deserves everything coming her way.
I've been pleased to hear that the FBI plans to bring down the hammer on these people, but it's confounding that 4 days later these people are still walking around and bragging about it.
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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:
You people seem to think that if the mob had captured and executed Congressional Democrats that the existence of copies of the electoral votes would’ve mattered.
My question for y’all is simply: why?
Right. Are they under the impression that violent coups throughout history could've been prevented with better procedural statutes in place?
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10 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:
Rage
I'm hoping charges will be added or ammended because this just makes no sense. Again, where I practice commerical burglary (breaking into any non-residential building to commit a crime) carries a maximum of 3 years. They give that to people who break into warehouses to steal wire and shit.
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1 minute ago, Nope said:
Urging capital punishment by the State isn’t illegal
Username checks out.
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2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:
This conversation has been had on other threads, but lets hash it out here. Okay, first off. It's not censorship in the strict sense of the word with respect to the First Amendment ( @TwiceHorn I defer to your expertise here) and if people don't understand that it is partly because they are listening to propaganda pushers telling them it is censorship even though it ignores that Twitter /= government.
So, that out of the way. We know that some speech is already abridged, correct? That is also written into our laws. Why should Facebook, Twitter, et al and their corporate structure not be allowed to stay on legal terra firma but also set the terms of service by which patrons should abide? A CEO has to abide by rules and regulations, but patrons can do whatever they want in his place of business? That doesn't sound conservative.
Fox News. Well, there's a problem right there. Fox isn't news and that was their defense in a court of law, that they are 'entertainment'. To be honest, CNN isn't really news either, IMO and we may need to grapple with that as a nation because Fox and CNN and all the other agencies that have blurred the line are confusing people. Trump or Conway or whoever originally came up with the term 'alternative' facts was brilliant, but seriously this was bad bad bad for our country. However, one part of me can't help throwing up my hands at viewers/readers who cannot discern between an 'opinion' piece and factual reporting. And shame on the reporter who blurs that line too. Like I said, we need to grapple with that too.
As far as expressing views, are you kidding me? The government is not censoring you. You and all Americans have plenty of places to express your views in this country. But depending upon who receives the communication, be prepared for a response and consequences. We the People decided on limits, so some of those consequences are legal, but others are not. They are society telling you their views.
1. Speaking: stand in your front yard. Rent a hall and give a speech. Stand on a street corner. Hold a parade or protest (get a permit) Ask for public comment time at your local government meeting.
2. Writing: Wear a tshirt. Put a bumper sticker on your car. Write a letter or email to your representative, a company, the newspaper. Make a poster. Hire a plane with a banner. Go online to a message board, a social media account, or a blog.
I'm leaving out plenty of methods, but believe me the President has plenty more and his voice is amplified because of his position.
Maybe that is why part of the population is so angry. They hear him say the things they want to say (because on his personal account on twitter he wasn't under the same federal rules about public officials) but he seldom suffers the consequences in the same way they do. Long time in coming-he should've been on his POTUS account but he would've been impeached long ago if he'd have done that. And now, when he does suffer those consequences, some identify with that but miss out on the point: perhaps those consequences were better for our society as a whole because we are a nation of many and we voted that way.
God bless you, but I think this is yet another time when you're going to need to revert to the @Huckleberry prescribed method of engagement.
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A conservative proudly lecturing liberals on the dangers of the private market regulating itself?
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1 minute ago, Loather said:More Americans self-identify as conservative than as liberal. As recently as fall 2018, Republicans controlled the Presidency and both houses of congress. You would have to conclude from all of this that there are a bunch of conservative Americans, it's probably a majority of the population. It almost certainly is a majority here in Texas.
Think about how many conservatives there must be on this site. Where are they? You know. On Surly only liberal views are tolerated. If any conservative views are espoused, they are met with immediate hostility and scorn. These folks are smart enough to keep their mouths shut. I have to congratulate the Democratic/Liberal branch of the political world, you win the debate by default, you have completely silenced the other side. And you seem to like it that way. But why would you want to be in an echo chamber? If your arguments are sound, why not engage and convince people? These folks are your neighbors, your family, they are Longhorn fans.
There are morons on both sides. You have the Goat Boy with painted face and horns storming the capital. You have hoodlums rioting and looting Kmarts under the pretext of protesting police brutality. Right now these are the only people getting our attention and controlling the conversation.
Predictably, the capital siege is being used to further silence people. Along with the censoring of people on Facebook and Twitter, Google has just cut access to an alternative app called Parler, Apple may follow suit. It will not happen, but there are even calls to have Fox News dropped from cable providers. That would be cheered by a lot of you, but is this really what you want? Many conservative Americans already feel that their voices have been stifled by Political Correctness, and now it looks to them like they are being completely silenced. This is frightening to people, and people do crazy stuff when they are frightened. If a large portion of the population starts to feel that they cannot get a response from their government by voting, or that they are not going to even be able to express their views, what might they resort to? What would you do if every outlet for liberal views was shut down?
These millions of conservative Americans are not going anywhere. You can silence them, you have proven that, but you can't make them disappear.
The majority of the population that has carried the popular vote once in the last 32 years.
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3 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:
I was thinking right next to the Four SeasonsThe Four Seasons is actually a pretty good name for a prison.
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@TwiceHorn is there a federal burglary statute?
I'm slightly perplexed after spending my entire legal career reading about the Draconian federal sentencing schemes only to see my black and brown clients facing more exposure for commercial burglary when there are no victims.
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Just now, ChiTownDoc said:
How much money you wanna bet less than 100 people die total in all this BS over the next whatever time period you want to put on it. A year? There might be an isolated incident or two but that's it. Only gullible folks believe these dumbfucks actually have the stomach for any real war. I mean holy shit - those pathetic incel dudes have killed more people. Literally...teen boys who can't get laid have killed more people than these scary 'patriots' ever will. Fuck them - just point and laugh.
Do you think the MAGA mob would've stopped the minority of rioters who came planning on executing people?
I don't.
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9 minutes ago, Macklemore said:
Wrong. It doesn’t work anymore on my iPhone. I have no problem banning Trump from Twitter. Disabling a whole app that was an alternative to Twitter is bullshit move by Apple
I'm sure they wont ban the apps that arent CURRENTLTY BEING USED TO PLAN AN ATTACK ON DC ON 1/20.
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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:Both got they asses banned.
Not so fast . . .
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Just now, 'stache said:
I hope you're right, but I disagree. I think there are a ton of people who don't give a shit about the news and aren't making the "actual sedition" connection, they just saw protesters, like BLM etc. They don't make the distinction because its happy hour and natty lite is 2 for 1.
Fuck them all. Fuck their views. Fuck their opinions. Fuck what they want. If the Democratic party had any balls, they would go for the throat. There is currently a gaping schism in the GOP. They are eating their own. Dems cannot afford to let them coalesce around a message and regain their strength. It needs to be destroyed as a viable party. Now. There needs to be DC statehood and Puerto Rico statehood bills on the desk on Day 1. There need to be multiple SCOTUS nominees in the first 100 days. They started the war, and Dems are under no obligation to consider appeals to mercy or tradition.
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7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:
My guess is that we will hear that many of the arrested to start to referring to themselves as citizen journalists. Guarantee that the radio talk show host woman will claim that she was reporting on events not participating.
Great. Put 12 in a box and let's settle it. Only question is, how many exhibits from social media will the prosecutor need to mark to establish their own words indicated they entered to disrupt the count and start a civil war.
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The US Capitol has been Breached [News]
in Daily Texan
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just to add a bit more