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Joe Biden 2024 thread - Dark Brandon Where Art Thou?
sheeeit replied to StassneyHorn's topic in Cloak Room
For the last few hours I am scoring Ana 1, Jimmy 0. and what the fuck happened to twicehorn? He was smart and helpful/insightful a few years ago and now he is lunatic fringe. -
I did some more digging, maybe this has already been hashed out on here and I missed it. If so, it would be pretty easy to direct me to that info. I found TwiceHorn's post interesting. Here is what he said: "Curious that Zuck didn't give that same testimony, in detail, under oath when subpoenaed in that case. See, in particular, Slip. Op. pp. 16-21. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411new_197d.pdf" I read the case he posted and it made zero mention of Zuck at all. So I researched it a bit but could not find anything, at all, related to Zuck testifying or being subpoenaed in that case. Twice is a lawyer so maybe he has access to sites I am unaware of that detail this kind of stuff, which is why I asked him to respond. I did find the stuff where Jim Jordan subpoenaed Meta (and all the big social media companies) for information and where Jordan threatened to hold Zuck in contempt for Meta not providing the requested info in a timely fashion. It appears Jordan was ultimately satisfied with the info Meta provided. I found no instance where Zuck either did testify under oath or refused to testify under oath regarding any of the censorship claims. That is why I asked Twice to elaborate as he is generally truthful in the stuff he posts. I am certain Zuck was cagey about the issue. Twice called him a slimy little fuck, and he very well may be. I would certainly agree that he was a slimy little fuck if he did, in fact, testify under oath, or refuse to testify under oath, in a different manner than he showed on Rogan. I wanted to see what he said under oath which is what Twice implied.
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You are one seriously disturbed dude.
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Were you able to find Zuck’s testimony?
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TwiceHorn can speak for himself, but did Zuck plead the fifth? How does one "refuse to testify" if they are subpoenaed in a federal case?
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I find this whole thing kind of fascinating. Virtually impossible to get all of the relevent information to make an informed decision. You stated: "Curious that Zuck didn't give that same testimony, in detail, under oath when subpoenaed in that case." I have searched as much as I can and can not find anywhere where Zuck gave testimony under oath in that case. Can you show that? It would be extremely damaging to Zuck's credibility if he did actually testify differently under oath than he is stating now on shows like Rogans.
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The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread
sheeeit replied to Horn Dog's topic in Cloak Room
That is outstanding. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
sheeeit replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
We will just have to disagree. You act as if luck and competence have never been considered before when making predictions for military battles. He didn't say it's 60/40 or even 80/20. He said 3 days. That means no amount of luck and/or incompetence can stall this. It would probably take the tanks a few days just to get there unopposed. I readily admit that luck played a big part. It always does. I think only an idiot would stick his neck out there and make a prediction like that to Congress and POTUS. His judgement was terrible. Couple that with his assessment of Afghanistan and he was not competent for his position. Plus, these are not under the radar events where somehow the top people got fooled by their underlings. The Russia invasion was the greatest geopolitical event in years. The US, as well as every other first world country in the world, have been assessing Russia and their competencies for years. I believe, just my opinion, that there were almost certainly factions within the intelligence and military communities that had very different opinions on both Russia and Afghanistan. Milley's job was to sort it out and find the reality. He was comically wrong on both events. This is not political. Some poster said Milley fucks. I merely pointed out that for the 2 most significant events that happened under his watch, he failed miserably in his assessment. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
sheeeit replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/politics/kyiv-russia-ukraine-us-intelligence/index.html -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
sheeeit replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
The point is that Milley had access to every bit of military intelligence, cia intelligence, international intelligence etc. I mean one of the main tenets of his job is to know this stuff. There are likely hundreds of military people at the Pentagon and across the globe whose job was to know what the state of the Russian military was as well as the Ukrainian military. It is massive incompetence. I get university officials making bad predictions or even politicians making bad predictions, but the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has to do better. One mistake should have had him demoted but 2 spectacular failures is ridiculous. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
sheeeit replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Well he made the prediction to congress on February 5 and Russian invaded on February 24. Obviously no material foreign aid was forthcoming in that 19 day window. He is gone now so it doesn't really matter but no person in the world had access to as much intelligence regarding both situations as he did and he was just spectacularly wrong. he should have been fired or, at a minimum, demoted to a lesser position. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
sheeeit replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Well he did say the Taliban was a "medium" threat in Afghanistan after we pulled out in 2021 and said it would take at least 2 years for them to take over. It took 10 days. He said Kyiv would likely fall in 72 hours if Russia invaded. Its been over 2.5 years. -
Had a discussion about this years team versus original dream team. Question was who would make the original dream team from this team and who would they replace. The only ones I think make it from this years team are James, Durant and Curry. I think they replace Magic, Bird and Stockton. Possibly Edwards over Pippen but I don't think people realize how amazing at defense Pippen and Jordan were together.
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Thoughts on Loper/Chevron. First, as far as I can tell, the following are the basic facts of the initial case: The Magnuson-Stevens Act gave the NOAA the power to regulate the fishing industry and the herring fishing industry in particular in this instance. For approximately the last 30 years, NOAA has required monitors on certain herring fishing vessels as they are authorized to do under the MSA. The regulations specifically called for boats of a certain size to both have monitors on board and also pay for them. In the Loper case, the size of the vessels was under the specific size regulation and, therefore, there was ambiguity on who would pay for the monitors. In a somewhat agreed upon settlement, the smaller herring fishing vessels agreed to have monitors on board and NOAA agreed to pay for them. This existed for many years. Recently NOAA had severe funding issues and, as a result, chose to impose the cost of monitors on the Loper fishing vessels. The lower courts looked at the case and applied the two part Chevron test which first determines if there is ambiguity in the language of the Act, and, if so, then they must decide if the actions imposed by the regulating agency (in this case NOAA) were "reasonable". In the Loper case, it appears that the lower courts agreed the language regarding who must pay for the monitoring was ambiguous and then further found that the NOAA did have the authority to impose the costs on Loper based on Chevron. What I think the issue is here is whether or not the lower courts actually considered whether the specific action by NOAA was "reasonable" or not but rather simply deferred that NOAA had the authority to do it based on Chevron. What I think SCOTUS did was then tell the lower courts that based on the Administrative Procedure Act they had to make a specific ruling on the "reasonableness". Am I correct that as a result of Chevron, that the courts have pretty much always sided with the regulatory agencies post Chevron? Are there any cases where a lower court actually ruled against a regulatory agency in a case of this type? Has "reasonable" essentially been changed to "egregious" meaning the courts are almost always going to side with the regulatory agencies unless the regulations are so over the top that no one could reasonably agreee to them. At first glance, it does seem that Loper has a really good case. Initially, both parties agreed that the cost of the monitors should not be borne by Loper as evidenced by the fact that NOAA did, in fact, pay for the monitors for many years. Then when NOAA ran out of money they changed the rules in the middle of the game. This is especially hard on the smaller vessels as the cost of a monitor has much more impact on their bottom line than it does on larger vessels that catch much more fish. It is sort of on point in our current bizarro world that liberals are the ones decrying this decision as it certainly appears to be a case where the little guy is going to get squeezed out by the big guys with help from a government agency. Historically the democrats have looked after the little guys and the republicans have favored the bigger guys. On a much broader level, I can certainly see why Chevron was reversed. The issue I see is that, by nature, most of the regulatory agencies and thus there regulations are impacted by the policy and political whims of whichever administration is currently in power. And whichever regime is in power, whoever donates the most money to the party will likely get their way with regards to the regulations that affect them. I think Chevron titled the fairness scales too far in the direction of the agencies and the direction of whichever party has current control.
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