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The guy is the best in the business and was originally hired by Republicans worried about Trump. He was the damn station chief for MI6 in Moscow. People don't pay you that type of coin if he just makes up shit. He's not some political hack in Florida looking for weirdos who fake their Liberty University degree to be a State Senator. This guy is the real deal and I seriously doubt he's going to screw his reputation and future earnings potential to make shit up. He's a professional spy with serious contacts. If its not true, he's not going to put it in the report people pay a lot of money for.

I'm pretty sure we can put you on the record as "nothing happened" from the very beginning of this entire shitshow of Russian interference, conspiracy, hacking, porn star payoffs, obstruction of justice, campaign/transition officials working in a capacity as foreign assets, and pee pee tapes. You're just waiting for the facts to come out. We got it, and both sides have probably done it at some point.

And there will be show after show on American trash TV proving they're real. It would be the only thing I can think of that would keep a news cycle going and proving all the other horrible stuff he's done is real. An embarrassing and, more importantly, emasculating moment that can actually get the attention of the average American.

They can justify it because most of the words were over their heads during Helsinki, they can say he was just posturing, or they can choose not to watch it. The pee tape will be on every Hollywood Reporter/Current Affair/Access Hollywood type show where they get most of their news.

And everyone that voted for him must be forced to watch it when it comes out. I know most of the repressed evangelical freaks will be down for it, but the otherwise low information Independent voters that broke for Trump because "it doesn't really matter anyway" must have a three watch minimum. Primetime national broadcast on all the major networks, cable news channels, and CMT. I'll argue the dossier is more influential and a bigger story to Joe Sixpack voter because of the pee tape in the long run. The super sensational part of a serious intelligence piece that slowly trickles out (intended) is just the thing to drive home the point that we have a fucking President that is a Russian asset. It's so unbelievable that we are in this situation that only something so crazy can get the 40% attention. "No way that's true!" they say. Bullshit, we even having him enjoying pissplay with some underage hookers in Moscow. The guy is truly a sick fuck and there's tape, of course he would sell out his own country.

Gary Johnson voters hate Goldwater.

No stone unturned nor thread bothsided. Bravo, keep up the strong work.

I just had my first legitimate acid flashback after watching the "British marines take acid" video on the "Drinking out of cups" thread. It's been 20 fucking years since I've tripped but I couldn't stop laughing and my chest tightened up with anxiety here at work. I've never had anything like that when completely sober. Fucking awesome.

Glad you new guys are here. I'm grateful for everyone in this thread, but especially for you all that are new to this. Its a brave step to walk in the door and try a different way of life. You area great reminder of the hopelessness that I once lived. I need that or I will eventually trick myself into believing I don't have this disease. May you find peace and surrender. Thank you to everyone who's kept this board going. It was here when I first needed it and I'm forever grateful. Happy days, much love.

Roger Stone comes to mind immediately so they must exist. Yuk- You're right, it is an identity and nearly impossible for these folks to ever admit being wrong about something. I just can't fathom not having that moment of self awareness when the whole fucking thing is falling down around you. Then I drive through the rural areas of the state and realize they live in a different reality where their "leaders" are in on the con and will not be made fools of by the big city educated types. Fuck. FoxNews bringing out Napoletano to start easing them into the seriousness of this matter will lead some to possibly have that brief moment of clarity. Most will chalk it up to the WAP they never much liked anyhow. Going to be a fun ride. Nice thing is I had resided myself to the Brisket train to hell, but that has changed now D's have the house and the indictments are starting to roll in. Anything that isn't an all out civil war will be a win.

Because the deep state has some very bad democrats working in it and lots of people were saying things at that time. Could have been anyone. The amount of evidence that Justice, FBI, etc. is going to have to bring to convince the rubes will be ridiculous.

The fun thing about this "I love Wikileaks!" part of the investigation is it's all being aired out for us to see. Old groveling men getting busted lying to everyone while trying to get their story straight and failing miserably. It's great entertainment. The real investigation continues with the two people who know everything, Cohen and the CFO. Those two are walking Mueller down the paper trail that will ultimately be the foundation for busting open the big conspiracy. The years of money laundering, international wire fraud, Russian oligarch/mafia ties, the Grand bargain. It's all coming fast. *Fuck! I guess Cohen stuff is now coming out. I'm not that smart. It's so fucking on.

Bumping this to say, we still suck, Mo must go, and the problems are as deep as predicted. Last minute Fellaini winner at OT against New Boys! How exciting. The depths of our sucktitude have yet to be revealed. Sitting 7th in the league and 8pts down from a Champions league spot. Normally I would be looking forward to Christmas, we always used to make our run then, but this has a chance to get ugly if we don't bring in a central defender and an effective striker in January. Not going to happen. Who the hell is going to join this mess of a squad when a Champions League spot is doubtful next year and Mo is still being crazy in charge. I don't see any free agent Ibras just hanging out waiting to save our ass. Mo out!

That's the part you don't understand. He's being played and has been played by Russian's for years because he's an easy mark that cares about nothing more than his money and his perception of winning. He's dumb because he let his kid take the meeting in Trump Tower. He's dumb because he hired Manafort/Gates to run his campaign after they spent a decade doing the Kremlins work in Ukraine. All he saw was the shiny object of winning the 'reality show' of being President and didn't give a shit how it got done. He's dumb because he assumed he could cover it all up once he ran the country and "his" Justice Department. That's now how it works, he's dumb. He doesn't understand that what he did was illegal because he's been scamming the IRS his entire life. He's dumb because private business is different than being an elected official and is subject to an entirely different level scrutiny than his shady real estate/vodka/fake university etc. deals he's always done. He's dumb for a number of factors, but mainly because he thought he could get more than 40% of the country to believe his shit. Granted, 40 percent is a lot of fucking rubes, but not enough to do as he pleases. This isn't some shithole country like he wants to believe.

Went to RightStep in Euless three years ago. It wasn't a 5 star yoga, massage, froo froo place, but there was great counseling, decent food, and all I know of treatment. It did the trick medically and mentally for me. They'll take you to meetings around DFW if you choose to go. GO! I haven't needed to go back to treatment again so that helps. It's so much of what you put into it.

Dems won the only possible seat they could. OKC has changed a lot, but the rest of the state is horrible. The Trump candidate, "business outsider" real estate sleaze ball, just crushed in the Gov's race against a moderate, gun toting, veteran, former prosector Dem. It wasn't even close. OKC will continue to turn blue, along with Tulsa, but they'll have it Gerrymandered in 2020. R's aren't losing power anytime soon and the dumbs, meths, and religious folks ain't leaving the state.

It's sad that Oklahoma has a system that hasn't had a controversy in my lifetime. Backwards ass Oklahoma, think about that.

Depends on how willing you are to risk it. I give it a 50/50 chance. Easy Jet out of Madrid is a little sketchy on timeliness, but it is the morning flight so they will try like hell to be on time as to not screw the rest of their day. I'd check the typical arrival/departure gates for those flights. If you land in the secure international you could just work your way over to the gate and it won't be an issue. I doubt it will be the same place because, US flights/our BS extra security checks, but worth the risk if you don't mind missing the flight home and hanging out in London an extra day. Plenty of cheap suburbs to crash in around Gatwick if you miss the flight, I've done it before. You don't have any luggage so you could easily just stay out all night in London and make the flight the next day. Just remember they don't do refunds for the missed flight if you're coming in on a different airlines. That risk is on you. Doable, and a fun adventure. Good luck.

I assume federal is the same as state. Oklahoma made massive cuts to the DA's and Judges so the counties/municipalities just raised fines and fees on all their court cases to keep the system moving. It's fairly easy to make a place basically non functioning, the State Dept. for example, just by cutting the budget. Happens all the time. Not sure if there are minimal requirements for SCOTUS/Dept of Justice, but I doubt it. Folks forever just assumed the right thing to do is fund them. New world we live in now.

Not really. The guy was 'King' of his family business and got away with cheating on taxes ("allegedly"), money laundering ("allegedly"), and not paying his debts for years (proven). He assumed he could do the same in the public sphere because he knows no other way but to cheat, lie, and scam. When you do that during and election or in office, it is illegal. Simple really.

I'm so fucking grateful to be sober today. Regardless of the outcome, and the election results will have a direct impact on my employment, I will be fine. I have been given the gift of serenity and been stripped of worry. I'm excitable at the moment and alcoholically laser focused on the races that matter to me, but this is just one day. A fun and anxious, yet fleeting experience that will all end well if I take care of myself, and kick any resentments ass that may try to fuck my world. The unknown is fun when you've experienced true hopelessness and made it out alive. Much love. Grateful for those on this board.

It would be savage and he would have the cred to do it. I was driving the other day and realized there is no music, film/TV yet about what is going on around us. It's as if most of the world is still in shock and hasn't come to grips with it. I guess we still haven't gotten the official report yet from the election and every is waiting to accept the truth. Those of us who've had the stamina to follow this since October 16 realize we're just farting in the wind and it's pointless until there are daily hearings in Congress. Come on Bob, quit raping and drop some knowledge.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -George Carlin

This was a part of the conversation I had with a very well connected Republican lobbyist this morning. They tried to make the late push with being "for pre-existing conditions" and its backfired in the latest internal polling. The public is dumb, but not dumb enough to know R's have voted over 60 times to repeal the ACA/Obamacare and that most families(extended) have one person in it with a pre-existing. House R's know that it's over and many are making plans for their future on K street. Take it for what it's worth, but my friend has been doing this for 40 years and he's not a bullshitter.

The reason they believe in voter fraud, paying protesters, conspiring against the US with foreign agents, planting fake news etc....is because they do all of those things. Thank God most of them are unsophisticated fools with rubes as followers. We'd be in trouble if they could pull off half the shit they try.