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Posts posted by hayden_horn
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Just now, SpiralOut said:
With nail polish?
by three o clock this afternoon
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ashley young can get you a toe
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6 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:
kane- about 4 feet off side
and that shit drives me nuts. there's no reason, aside from laziness, to remain in an offside position. totally wasted opportunity, because he couldn't be bothered to take three or four steps after a clearance.
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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:
This argument completely falls apart in the light of the most glaringly obvious evidence: the continued atrocities at the border. Come on.
and the willingness of the ice employees to continue to act in such a manner. i couldn't live with myself. somehow they seem to be able to do so, and that scares the fuck out of me
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How do these victims justify voting for this fucking cretin?
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3 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:
So I'm an illegal immigrant and I try to get food stamps. I will not qualify. Then I start having children here who are US citizens, and if I cannot afford to feed them and provide medical care, the burden falls on the state to provide medical care and food.
I think they walked all the way across Mexico to get the benefits that we will provide for them. Are the US and Canada the only "safe" places in all of the Americas?
Because we do not have unlimited money and we are not the world's welfare system. Some of you think that we SHOULD be but we aren't.
point 1: yes. as we should. those kids are us citizens, we should probably take care of them. we have posters, successful people, who grew up on public assistance. this is how the second and third immigrant generations turn into our engineers, attorneys, and doctors. this is how it should work. it would work even easier with an immigration policy that i outlined above, expediting things for all parties, including domestic employers.
point 2: that's horseshit, and i think you know it. they are 1) fleeing something and 2) seeking a better life for their children. most come here and work their asses off.
point 3: no one said we should be the world's welfare system. you are very hung up on welfare. i think it's a bit.
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6 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
How do genocides begin?
i'll answer because he won't. they begin first with establishing the "other." they take their first steps by thoroughly dehumanizing that "other." this starts with rhetoric like calling the "other" things like "animals," "criminals," or referencing insect or ratlike things like "infestation." then the next steps can take many forms, one of which might be, i dunno, taking the "others," separating them from their families, and shipping them to holding camps all over the nation without really even tracking where which separated family members end up. because they do not even deserve basic human consideration, because they are the "other."
keep in mind, there are people all up and down the chain of command who are enforcing this policy of family separation as their job, and they somehow sleep at night. these are the type of people for whom mission creep could easily move into more nefarious means, and ending up with lethality. for reference, take a look at any video of israeli soldiers shooting unarmed palestinians and laughing about it.
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17 minutes ago, F250 said:
That would be a good thread. Here is a very interesting read if you are interested. It discusses the question you are asking.
The Coming Anti-National Revolution
"The next such revolution, likely to occur in the 21st century, will challenge the economic implications of the nation state. It will focus on the injustice that follows from the fact that, entirely by chance, some are born in poor countries and others in rich countries. As more people work for multinational firms and get to know more people from other countries, our sense of justice is being affected."
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/19/the-looming-anti-national-revolution
thanks, i'll look into this.
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9 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:
Does the welfare program have unlimited money? No? Well let's add even more people to the welfare rolls.
Why is citizenship of any country sacrosanct? Our ancestors fought wars so that we could be our own country. Should we not be able to say who is worthy of citizenship or not if they were not born to people who are citizens?
Of course, but that shouldn't mean that they are automatically US citizens in my opinion. Make sure they are well taken care of, but then send them back with their parents if they are not granted asylum.
point 1: are illegal immigrants or undocumented immigrants qualified to receive welfare? can you DEFINE what you mean by "welfare?"
point 2: that's a great question. why is it? you say our ancestors fought wars so we could be our own country. our own FREE country. to which we should welcome fellow travelers looking to be free. you think the guatemalan refugee walked all the way across mexico, with her child, uprooting everything they know, so they could be sent back to whatever dire situation drove them in the first place? or did they think that the united states represents a beacon on the hill - a hope for a better life for their kid?
point 3: why not?
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Brussels (CNN)President Donald Trump on Wednesday accused fellow NATO ally Germany of being beholden to Russia because it buys energy from Moscow, in pointed remarks ahead of a summit of the military alliance in Brussels.
"Germany is a captive of Russia," Trump said at a meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, his first since arriving in the Belgian capital. "It's very inappropriate."
Trump went on to complain that the United States is expected to "defend them against Russia," despite Germany making "billions of dollars" in energy payments to Moscow.
"I think it's something that NATO has to look at," Trump said. "Germany is totally controlled by Russia."Trump's comments were a remarkable criticism for a US president to make about a close US ally and is likely to increase tensions between the US and its European allies. Indeed, while Trump singled out Germany, he also noted that "numerous" NATO countries have made pipeline deals with Russia.
remember, folks, every accusation is actually a confession.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/11/politics/trump-germany-russia-captive-nato/index.html
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2 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:
Birthright citizenship and welfare and medical care for their children who will be born here.
i keep seeing welfare listed by people. i'm sure there are stats out there that compare the number of domestic citizens on some form of welfare to those illegals on some form of welfare.
and on citizenship: why is american citizenship so sacrosanct? i've started wondering that. i may start a topic on that or pose the question on the DACA thread. i love america. but i was a white kid who grew up in the dallas suburbs because i happened to be born to two american citizens who were successful people. i didn't do anything in particular to earn it.
and of course we should provide medical care for children born here.
but once again, i return to the guest worker program. if we allow guest workers to come in, legally, get a worker card, work here with no issues for a year or two or three or whatever, then they can bring their family over. what's wrong with that? is that not the american fucking dream? if we had a sane immigration policy, it removes most or if not all of the negative illegal immigration. i feel like i'm taking crazy pills, the solution seems so easy. it's kind of like the drug war. oh, wait. maybe it's EXACTLY like the drug war in that we perpetuate a terrible policy for other reasons than those stated.
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5 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
WASHINGTON — The government said on Tuesday that it would release hundreds of migrant families wearing ankle bracelet monitors into the United States, effectively returning to the “catch and release” policy that President Trump promised to eliminate.
Faced with a pair of court orders restricting immigration detentions, federal officials said they could not hold all of the migrant families who were apprehended at the southwestern border. They said their hands were tied by dueling requirements to release children from detention after 20 days and also keep them with their parents or other adult relatives.
Confronted by audio of crying children that drew widespread outrage, Trump administration officials also said they had stopped referring migrant adults who enter the United States with children for prosecution.
“Parents with children under the age of 5 are being reunited with their children and then released and enrolled into an alternative detention program,” Matthew Albence, the executive associate director of ICE’s enforcement and removal operations, told reporters on Tuesday.
He said that means the migrants will be given ankle bracelets “and released into the community.”
At the same time, the government said it was struggling to reunite 102 migrant children under 5 with their parents as required under a court order; only about one-third were expected to be reunited by the Tuesday deadline.
The reunification process was disorganized. Parents were warned that pickup and drop-off times could change throughout the day. Volunteers waited on standby in shifts, surprised by the addition of one more parent than they had expected. The federal agency that oversees the care of migrant children, the Department of Health and Human Services, was still conducting background checks on parents into Tuesday morning.
Citizens and politicians in Guatemala welcomed back 11 reunified families who had been deported from the United States. Among them was Donelda Pulex Castellanos, 35, who was separated from her 5-year-old daughter in early May after the two crossed the border near El Paso.
They remained apart for two months, with Ms. Pulex in detention in El Paso and her daughter sent to live with a foster family in Michigan.
because it was working. we enabled a policy of human suffering to presumably deter other humans from trying to enter illegally. the united states of fucking america intentionally enabled a policy of human suffering and child torture. ruminate on that shit.
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6 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:
That would be a legal avenue. But that still does not remove the incentives for people wanting to come illegally.
well, except it does. what do you think the incentives for people wanting to come illegally are?
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29 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:
Just eliminate all the incentives that they have to come here illegally. If they cannot work, do not get birthright citizenship for their children, do not get government assistance for their children, and are deported immediately, there will be less incentive to come illegally. We can raise the amount of people we take in legally at the same time.
or, i don't know, stay with me here, actually create a guest worker program so that they can come here legally, do the work legally, pay taxes, and go home when finished. or allow them to stay for a certain amount of time with a path to citizenship. i know, immigration is so complex. we better keep doing it he way we currently are. it works so well.
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1 hour ago, RandomIdoit said:
So how would the "administration going full genocide" as you said earlier work then? Trump just calls up some peeps and is like "hey, shoot any brown person you see, okay?" and then they are like "sure thing boss." And everyone in the country just sits by idly while it happens?
let's replace genocide with "forcibly removing small children from their parents without due process and putting both in separate prisons thousands of miles from one another without proper paperwork or tracking as though we don't even care about their humanity."
here we are.
now how did that happen?
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Man, I just saw a commercial in support of appointing judge Kavanaugh from a PAC on CNN while working late. Is this what we have become?
Btw, for the reactionaries, I would feel the same about #bothsides on this issue. Its fucking unseemly.
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4 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:
Wait, you think I’m Asian? I was the fucking Shah of Shaggy. Come on man. Are you ok, because you sound like your going through dementia with you trying to school me on 1st week of law school shit on the Kavanaugh thread and now thinking I’m Asian.
lulz. well.
african or european?
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fuck anyone who supports this shit:
QuoteJose and his son crossed the border in May, fleeing violence in their native Honduras after gang members killed three family members.
The 27-year-old farmer was sent to a detention center in south Georgia and his son, 3, was sent to a facility in Arizona in keeping with the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy.
On Tuesday Jose and his namesake were reunited in Phoenix.
“I thank God to be with my son,” he said in a statement released by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is assisting him with his asylum case. “It was very difficult to be separated from him for so long.”
Jose didn’t want to give his full name, fearing for the safety of his common-law wife and other loved ones still in his homeland. He and little Jose are now headed by bus to northern Virginia, where they will stay with a relative. The father has been fitted with an electronic ankle monitoring bracelet while their asylum claims are pending. He has an immigration court hearing scheduled for July 19.
Little Jose had been held in a government shelter in Glendale, Ariz. Peter Isbister, a senior lead attorney for Southern Poverty Law Center’s Southeast Immigrant Freedom Initiative, said the father and son reunion was a touching one.
“We are very glad our client is reunited with his son,” he said. “It seemed pretty apparent that the little boy was emotional as well.”
Isbister and a colleague connected with the dad and son via FaceTime on Tuesday.
“I could see the clear beaming delight on my client’s face as he thanked God again and again,” Isbister said. “He became clearly emotional as he described how hard it was to be separated from his son for so long.”
The dad encouraged his son to greet their lawyers over the phone. The 3-year-old seemed too overwhelmed to say much, but managed a wave.
“We were fighting back tears as well,” Isbister said. “I was thinking of my own children, not much older than my client’s boy.”
He asked the father which toys his son likes and Jose said he’s a fan of PAW Patrol, a Nickelodeon Jr. show created in partnership with the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. It’s about a 10-year-old who responds to calamities like cats stuck in trees with the help of his trusty band of rescue dogs in training.“Each pup is inspired by a real-world job like firefighter, police officer, and construction worker,” the show’s web site explains. “For kids, PAW Patrol is a fun way to learn bravery and heroism, with exciting stories that never get too scary.”
The SPLC got little Jose a PAW Patrol toy to welcome him to America.
this is just one story. just one fucking story. there are thousands. and trump today had the fucking temerity to say:
Quote“Well, I have a solution. Tell people not to come to our country illegally. That's the solution. Don't come to our country illegally. Come like other people do. Come legally,” he told reporters on the White House’s south lawn Tuesday morning as he departed for his weeklong trip to Europe. “I'm saying this very simply: We have laws. We have borders. Don't come to our country illegally. It's not a good thing.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/10/trump-migrant-families-separated-706144
fuck you you fat orange fuckstain. the guy in the story above came seeking asylum. they uproot themselves, endure a dangerous as fuck journey to come and ask us for help. and we say "sorry, seat's taken, fuck you and your family, we are going to use you to send a message that american asylum is closed for fucking business."
anyone who supports this policy can get facefucked.
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pompeo apparently left without giving kim the rocket man CD.
which is a real thing that i cannot believe has happened.
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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:
Well, he's an ordained minister.
well, this is kind of cool:
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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

wait, seriously?
i was in a lyft and downtown julie brown is apparently a sirius/xm radio host, and kennedy is hosting a fox business show? what the hell is riki rachtman up to?
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1 minute ago, sidis said:
mmm, kane scores from too close for that. need some long, deep strikers from england to make that one apropos.
yeah, maybe a few shots from outside the box. and a muddy pitch.
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18 minutes ago, sidis said:
so if england wins, do we go with puns based on the norman conquest, breton war, vexin war, anglo-norman war, anglo-french war, hundred years war, second hundred years war, battle of waterloo, american revolution, seven years war?
tough call...
agincourt, for sure
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well, if you're going to have stoppage time you should honor the idea of stoppage time, otherwise, it's pointless. they should've played until the 98th minute

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that was an angry foul, pissed he didn't get his call, so came charging in mad