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also, thanks for this. i've been a bit unhinged this morning about this topic.

ok, i've done enough vitriol on this thread, but this is over the fucking top. you can't bring that movie into this context. i'll fight you. haha.

it's a fucking 1950s donna reed bullshit situation. even then, they knew it was bullshit, but it was kinda true. get that high school diploma, work at the factory, don't knock up your girl (because she has no fucking agency) and don't do drugs. it's fucking 2022. let's get real.

define a second chance. she was brilliant. i guess she could've bootstrapped her way back up changing oil or something. her life was ruined. because of addiction. she never robbed anyone. she didn't kill anyone. she got caught with just a bit too much meth. and now she's dead. guess that's funny.

not sure what you are going for here. my sister is dead because, in part, once she got out of prison, she couldn't find a real job. she was brilliant. smarter than me. but she got caught with the wrong amount of meth and became a felon. and really, that was the end of her story even though there were years to come of struggling.

horseshit. once you are a felon, your race doesn't matter, you marketability is shit. it's over.

for the record, i was raised in a kind of perfect world, all things considered, aside from bro and sis. my dad and mom really had my education in mind and pushed me in positive ways. so i'm just trying to juxtapose my pretty privileged experience with that of my brother and sister. it's just frustrating to hear that "well, just work hard" when that doesn't always work. "hey don't do drugs" when you got slapped around by your dad. "live your perfect life" fuck yall. ain't nobody got a perfect life, but most of us do the best we can. i'm doing well. so is my brother. my sister is in the ground. "hey, just work hard." whatever. i don't know why i'm so mad here. but it hit a nerve.

this mindset makes absolutely no sense to me, by the way. of course i wouldn't be personally responsible for your family any more than you would be mine. but at the same time, we are a fucking society. we should take care of each other. and you think we should not, based on what i'm reading here. fuck that. it wasn't the fucking drugs that killed her. that's the point you are missing, and i reckon that most people miss when people overdose. she was failed pretty close to birth. she needed help she couldn't get. my mom couldn't get her that help in the 80s. things might different today, but people deal with shit as well as they can. this idea that she could have worked harder. fuck you. she was slapped around by her dad, probably molested, though never proven, dealt with a divorce at 13-14, and tried to get through her life. my dad tried his best, but some problems cannot be solved. perspective. get some of it. not everyone can be raised in a perfect world, and i'm sick of hearing it.

seriously? could you be more out of touch? she passed last year. drugs were not the problem for my sister. they were her solution. people have problems they try to solve. it's not just easy to say "good effort, get those bootstraps!" sometimes people fall down. people like you want to kick them. people like me want to help them up.

i'm actually fucking furious right now. some of yall have no fucking idea, and everything is fucking simple

this reminds me of a former poster, but i can't remember who. maybe laphroaig? anyways. my family story is a fucking car wreck. i was raised in a nuclear family, but i had half-siblings who were the result of...previous encounters with my mother. one had a dad who was murdered in a field during a bad drug deal; that's my brother. he's still alive. my sister was raised by an asshole until my mother took them away from him and moved them away. that shit took a lot of guts on mom's part. she grew up poor, but went and made a successful life. nevertheless, my sister had to deal with what i think was probably ptsd, and my brother too. for whatever reason, my brother was able to overcome, but she wasn't. he slipped into coke, and he got out of it. she slipped into meth. that eventually killed her. she got branded as a felon for having just a bit too much, and yeah, i was an uncle at 8 years old because she hung out with disreputable people and made a mistake. meanwhile, mom was a massive success in commercial real estate. she tried her best, and still couldn't fix the shit that happened. my sister died last year, and fuck you, dude for not even trying to understand what people are going through. her two kids are screwed up due to her addiction. she died because of it. and she was the son of a sheriff. my niece and nephew...i don't even know. i hope they are doing well. they don't return my calls. but i have no doubt there are significant mental issues there. my nephew was once put in custody of the state because the police were called when he was naked on the front lawn while my sister languished in a meth coma. bootstraps, right? you don't fucking get how hard some people have it. i had it easy. i went to decent schools, i went to texas, and i have a decent job. a lot of that is due to hard work, but i got fucking lucky to have the job i've got. ask @staboner to whom i really owe everything. i just made an appeal and got a chance. i've taken advantage. but i also got lucky because my mom figured shit out. she and my dad raised me pretty well, i reckon. but not everyone has that experience or that opportunity. we earn our shit, but we also need the opportunity, and that's where the luck comes in. my sister is dead because of choices she made. but she was also a product of a shitty dad who my mom had to decide to leave. and people are complicated, and sometimes that takes longer than it should. your simple fucking view of life is why people vote republican or make fun of joe biden. finish high school. my mom did that. but just that. she also got pregnant before 25. regardless, she became a glass ceiling buster in the 80s in fucking dallas of all places. but still, there were ghosts. i don't think she did drugs, but who are we to point fingers? we ruin people's lives for drugs, which is what happened to my sister. never got a real job after her time at gatesville. fuck you, dude. she was an addict, and people like you take glee in the ruination of their lives. "shouldn't have done that" with no fucking context.

i mean, it's like yall forgot about the fucking global caliphate thread on the old board. no go zones in london and paris! the muslims have sharia law and the cops won't police there! it was all bullshit then. it's all still bullshit, but it has cemented in the minds of the stupid. http://www.shaggytexas.com/board/showthread.php/147566-Islamic-Caliphate have a fun read. i wonder who clear lake horn is over here.

i'm still sort of amazed at changing a quoted poster's text. what the actual fuck is that about? also, yall, slorch isnt trolling. this is just peak slorch. it's very similar to peak rocko. it's a weird sort of thing.

uh, where are your balls? my wife hates dumb ladies. maybe don't marry a dumb lady.

his covid stance has been...well...attractive to a certain demographic. also, i don't know how anyone looks at that dude and takes him seriously. he is a vacuous waste of space. i don't care about his ivy league bona fides. i wouldn't hire him to take out my garbage.

(yeah, yeah, i know this picture is from cuba, but it's our friend in miami)

i disagree. it's not morons. it's a weird sort of brainwashing that's occurred. and it only occurred to me when i sort of sleepily half-watched some stupid show my wife watched yesterday about warren jeffs. that's what's happened here, writ large. this dude is still leading his cult from prison. they still believe in his bullshit. there's some weird crossed wire in our brain that allows us to follow the stupidest bullshit, and when people access that wire, you'll do anything to tell the rest of the world to fuck off. which, i admit is my default, but for me, it is far more an individualist fuck off than a group joiner fuck off, but it's there, and i recognize it. i don't think the people are stupid. they aren't morons. they are ready for outside influence, maybe, but not morons. so many people influenced by trump were successful. normal folks, outside of that support. there's something there in the brain that i can't figure. but it's the same with covid. it's a middle finger thing.

imagine defending dave portnoy. the guy cannot even smile without stretching his skin suit to the extreme. that's not a smile of a guy enjoying life. that's a sneer of someone who thinks they got the world by the balls, but also hates himself and everyone around him because he is a vortex of self-loathing. success doesn't mean someone is successful.

i think if ruth had asked him nicely, he would've done it. he was a legal asshole, and a kind of at large asshole, but i don't think he was a personal asshole to people he respected. granted, gorsuch probably has no respect for anyone else on the court, but that's kind of my point.

yeah, i know, but my point is that scalia would've worn the fucking mask. but also, as much as i take issue with a ton of his decisions, he was a man of honor. so if he didn't really want to wear the mask, his choice would've been "go remote or wear the mask," not "make the medically at risk person go remote or wear the mask."

so i recently rewatched goodfellas, and i think the same thing is playing out in the republican party. they are going to try and eat their own. right now, trump runs the ship, but there is grumbling. but more than that, there is ambition. and the ambition is going to eat itself up. we've seen this happen with the democratic party in the past, but not to this criminal degree. i mean, how many fucking crooks are there in the republican party? desantis v trump. who wins? we all do.

scalia would've worn the fucking mask, because he damn well wouldn't have gone remote. imagine being such an asshole that you won't make an accommodation for one of your 8 colleagues. and then imagine that scalia wouldn't have been such an asshole as you.

fuck if i know

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