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I get that we're not talking about busts but about guys who didn't live up to our expectations, but honestly what were you expecting out of him? The guy set the then-school record for career receiving TDs (still 10th or something last I saw). Also the receiving yards record with Mike Adams for freshmen. He was all-conference twice. The others, sure, but Lovell actually had a decent career with us for a TE playing WR his entire time here.
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He and Gray ran behind the same OL...and I literally said it's probably unfair. If you're calling out Gray, who had two exploded Achilleses, and which you do two posts later, and not Brown, who had zero exploded Achilleses, then Brown is actually the bigger disappointment. Having a mid career in the NFL punctuates that. Couldn't do it here, but could do it in in the NFL. Makes me think he was half-assing it here. It's not like, say, Priest Holmes who had some all-time games here and then consistently balled out in the NFL. Priest wasn't half-assing it here.
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It's probably not fair, but it's a tie between Malcolm Brown and Johnathan Gray. Before that it was Tray Allen and Marquis Johnson. With all the hype each RB got, and Gray's pedigree, anything less than Heismans was going to be a let-down. Not only did that not happen, but neither of them even rushed for a thousand yards in a single season. I get that Gray had Achilles tendons made of glass, but even when he was healthy he was a plodding tweener, same with Malcolm Brown. And, for a 5-star Army AA, Allen was just underwhelming and mostly below average. Johnson didn't even make it here, I think? And wherever he went, he did nothing there either.
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Well...that was her kink.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet
AnotherLawyer replied to Coach pop a bitch's topic in Football
If there's one place you don't want a QB to go, it's the Browns. If there are two places you don't want a QB to go, it's the Browns and the Jets. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Derka, dude. Derka was comparing Ewers to Colt. Would I rather have RS-JR Colt over RS-JR Ewers in 2024? Yes. Would I rather have RS-SO Colt over RS-SO Ewers in 2023? No. And the comparison was RS-SR Colt to RS-SO Ewers. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Yeah? Cool. I didn't do that. In fact, I said my 1-2-3 tier was VY-Street-Colt. But keep cherry-picking facts to support your false narrative while ignoring Ewers got planted into the turf against Alabama the year before and missed games, and also missed two games in 2023 due to injuries. The way you guys hate on Ewers is fucking insane. -
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AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
I said it was. I literally fucking said that. I said "It's reasonable to compare year 3 to year 3. It's reasonable to compare year 2 to year 2." And, yes, it was said that 2008 and 2009 Colt would have won the NC with the team Ewers had in 2023. Are you fucking blind? And age isn't a useless sidebar. The number of FR and SO you'd rather play over a RS-SR is incredibly low, especially at key decision-making positions. -
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AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Nope. Not even close to what I said. The point is appropriate: Colt was a great player who also played with good and great players. It was merely a counterpoint to the implication that Ewers played with a bunch of somebodies while Colt played with a bunch of nobodies. You can note that only the players Ewers played with, many of whom are not in the NFL (but may very well be), were mentioned while none of who Colt played with were mentioned. Source for Smith or Hix or Huey? Google for the teams and times. As for the others, they were taken from Texas 2-deep depth charts with supplemental information from Wikipedia, NFL.com, Texas press releases, and other sources. I had to ask my brother about a few. If they had meaningful stats, they got mentioned. If they didn't even if they were on the 2-deep, I didn't mention them. But you raise a fair point. A more appropriate comparison might be Colt's RS-FR year to RS-SO year in comparison to Quinn's RS-SO year to RS-JR year given the personnel losses. It's still worth pointing out that RS-SO Colt had those stats with Jamaal, Jermichael, and others on the team. It wasn't like the cupboard was bare. And, sure, Gunnar was on the team in 2023 but JT was starting and Gunnar didn't exactly take up the majority of the snaps, unlike Shipley who was a huge contributor from pretty much day one. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison between Helm and Shipley over multiple years. RS-SO year for both, not "best" and "worst." Apples-to-apples. If you want to compare their two best years, cool. It's closer to apples-to-apples than the asinine argument that someone would rather have a 23-year-old RS-SR over a 19-year RS-SO and that's somehow proof that the former rocks and the latter sucks. -
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AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Cool, man. Great. Your opinion, RMN at a point in time, and fuck the the stats and performance...all good, clear-headed, cogent support. I love Colt. My family sat with him and his family at the football banquet his RS year. My brother still talks to him every once in a while. He's definitely in that upper tier and probably 1-2-3 in my opinion are VY, Street, and Colt. Do I put Ewers top 5? I don't know. Top 10? Probably for sure. Did he do really well? Absolutely. Could he have done better? Absolutely. I agree. But what I don't do is shit on the kid like you guys who never wore the Burnt Orange do. It's fucking bizarre as fuck to me how Texas "fans" shit on Texas players who bled for the program, especially the QBs. Is Colt over on the sideline saying Ewers sucks and he can't wait for Manning to take over and if Colt had been the QB two years ago Texas would've beaten Washington and Michigan? No, he's fucking not. It's us fat fucks who sit on our couches wearing their jerseys we bought from Dick's Sporting Goods or the Co-op or eBay or whatever in size XXXXL. But, man, your opinion no matter how passionate does not change the fact that RS-SO Colt threw 18 fucking INTs and did not have a statistically better year than RS-SO Ewers when he was two years older and in a long-established program with stability amongst the coaches and multiple top-5 finishes over the previous several years. At the exact same stages in their careers with NFL talent all around them, Ewers had a better season statistically, was on a conference championship team, broke almost every CCG passing record, and was a bad playcall or poorly-thrown pass away from an appearance in the NCG playing against a RS/Covid-SR who was like 27 years old and had been the starter for like 8 years. And no shit you'd rather have a 23-year-old RS-SR over a 20-year-old RS-SO? Where do I send my $9.95? -
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AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Vegas had Ewers as the Heisman frontrunner before his abominal injury, so I guess no actual difference then? To hear all of you tell it, Ewers was the worst fucking QB to ever wear the Burnt Orange. I think he did exceedingly well for the position he was put in and we disagree. Cool. Disagree, but don't act like your opinion is a fact. There's empirical evidence that says otherwise. -
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AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
I'm "acting." You mean in the context of Derka arguing that he would take two-year-older RS-SR Colt McCoy over two-year-younger RS-SO Quinn Ewers? Why are you so obtuse? Is it intentional? Fuck, you must live a miserable fucking life. Two years greater physical, emotional, and mental maturity makes a huge difference at that age, as does being able to play ball with your primary receiver for 3-4 years rather than having complete turnover in your WR corps and RB corps. What I'm offering, including empirical evidence, is that Quinn doesn't suck as much as you dimwitted fucktards are saying and Colt wasn't the God you make him out to be. Why don't you fuck right off into the Sun, you miserable little shitstain? -
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AnotherLawyer replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Okay. So take a RS-JR and RS-SR QB who was 22- and 23-years old in those seasons and put him on a loaded team under Sark and he'll do better than a 20-year-old RS-SO and 21-year-old RS-JR. Got it. 2007 RS-SO Colt was 276 of 424 (65.1%) for 3,303 yards, 22 TD and 18 INT on a team that had Jamaal Charles, Jermichael Finley, Jordan Shipley, Quan Cosby, and Limas Sweed...but sure. I mean, for comparison, 2023 RS-SO Ewers was 272 of 394 (69%) for 3,479 yards, 22 TD and 6 INT in 12 games (to Colt's 13). I'm not saying it's apples to apples, I'm just saying.
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