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  1. Ag with kids
    I apologize for allowing myself to be led down that rabbit hole. I didn't intend for my example to do that. Note that my original post was actually about misplaced priorities, not cell phones (those were only an example - there are plenty more). I included the example because I thought giving some real world data would help explain my point. However, in retrospect, giving no examples would probably have been the best course of action in order to ward off chasing those rabbits. BTW, I agree that the US will cease to exist at some time. And just like in every one of those past eras, there were people who were convinced it would never happen and people who were convinced it was right around the corner. There's a reason they say history repeats itself...
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    No. That is not what I'm saying.
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    Yes. You are correct.
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    I addressed a specific thing earlier in this thread with my comment. I did NOT address poverty in general. I even said that. I only used cell phones as an example. In retrospect, I should have realized everyone would focus specifically on the cell phone and not the point of my comment... My bad.
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    You're not getting my point. It's not about poor people. It's about how Americans prioritize things. We're kind of bad at that.
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    At NO time did I say that. Please don't CR this thread.
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    I'm glad you're not living in the lower class, Congrats? But, are you saying that you can ONLY apply at your company on a cell phone?
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    We're quite NIST compliant. I won't contest your last point....
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    Any fast food or low level retail (which is where these poor people can work) definitely do paper apps...
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    Interesting. I drop by my the McDs right by my work for coffee in in the morning and they have paper applications right next to the kiosks and I've seen the manager interview numerous people with their paper apps on the table. BTW, ONLINE and CELL PHONE are not the same. And..again...convenience and necessity are not the same thing. BTW, I pointed out earlier that cell phones were just ONE example. There're many others...like multiple HDTVs, cable/satellite/streaming services/etc. In rural areas, guns/ammo can add up. The point isn't CELL PHONES. It's misplaced priorities. For the truly poor, I'd 100% support the negative income tax proposed by Milton Friedman.
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    I am NOT a boomer. I'm Gen X. Fuck those old farts and their printing out of memes...
  12. Ag with kids
    Or a home phone and using computers at work. However did this happen prior to the emergence of the cell phone?
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    Standard. And convenient. Not a necessity. Cell phones have basically been EVERYWHERE for over 20 years. Most younger people don't even remember a time that they weren't available. Life existed and was quite successful before them. Hell, seeing how most people are on their phones surfing what the fuck ever all day long, maybe they were more productive before the cell phone.
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    I worked in the Aerospace and Defense industry for almost 30 years. Now I'm the chief engineer at a university research center. I have never NEEDED my phone. EVER. Not for work. Not for home. It HAS been an ENORMOUS convenience, though. BTW, I'm quite sure that all of those things that the employees at your company do on cell phones can be done without one (remember, not 100% people in the US have cell phones). Is it way more CONVENIENT on the cell phone? Hell yeah. But a NECESSITY? Probably not in most cases.
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    Explain exactly why? And please don't CR your answer...I self banned myself from that shithole and I'd like to know your answer. BTW, when you get to the truly rich in the country, income equality is not really the term you should use with them.
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    I pointed out that I don't even NEED a cell phone for work. Most people really don't NEED it for work. It's an AWESOME convenience, though. House phone bills tend to be cheaper. But, tying this to the topic of the thread, I don't think that the poverty situation in the US will be a driver. Compared to POOR countries, as someone above pointed out, our poor people are the 1%. The poor have a LOT more to lose by our country collapsing than the rich do. But, then, I've seen dumber things happen in the US...we had the TV show Tiger King for god's sake...
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    I disagree it's a necessity. I have one. And yes, I have my work email and Teams/Slack loaded on it for communication with work. But, I do that for convenience, nothing more. If I didn't have my cell phone it would not hamper work in any way shape or form. And 90% of my phone use (and probably most people's) is just fucking off - surfing the net, games, memes, etc. People have just gotten so used to the ubiquitousness of cell phones that they confuse convenience with necessity. Now, I'm sure that there ARE numerous jobs that the cell phone is a requirement. But, I'm doubting that those ~12% of households with food insecurity are in the majority of those. BTW, the cell phone is just one example of the misplaced priorities of many Americans.
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    I didn't try to refute a gap. I pointed out that we in the US have different priorities. (and I was referring to that specific example, not all examples) As a couple posters above commented, it's viewed in the US that having a cellphone is a necessity. I don't think that it really is, even if its utility is very helpful like in the examples they gave. Especially when that utility is valued over food for the family.
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    Part of the issue in the US is that we often have misplaced priorities. For instance, approximately 97% of Americans have a cell phone (https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/). Which means that the majority of those families suffering from food insecurity were making sure that they had their cell phone bill paid. So, a non-necessity was more important to them than a necessity. NOTE: I'm not saying there aren't poor people in the US and that there aren't problems. Just pointing out one of the issues that we have here.
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    I was listening to an Intelligence Squared debate on the issue. One of the people arguing against the wealth tax leaned left, but pointed out that implementing a wealth tax has been done numerous times with the results never achieving the stated goals and ultimately those countries repealed those taxes. She said it was a very inefficient way to redistribute wealth... I think it was this one: https://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/its-time-redistribute-wealth Also, income/wealth inequality isn't necessarily bad all by itself although it CAN be bad. But, just remember that the easiest way to eliminate income/wealth inequality is to have a bad recession/depression.
  21. Ag with kids
    Yodelodelayheehoo! Und...Und... Und Beck's? UND BECK'S!
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    I'll have to admit I'm really jealous. I lived in Germany from 1969-1973 and only have a few memories of my times there. I've told my GF that I'm making 2 trips back there when I retire. One in the summer and one in the winter (not over Christmas Day, though - we'll be in the Caribbean). The winter trip is expressly to go to the Christmas markets and Der Schwarzwald. As a side note, apparently, when I was about 3, I went to East Berlin with my folks. We were in West Berlin and apparently my dad knew someone that had a car with diplomatic plates and we got to go on a tour of the soviet side. However, the driver took us places that usually aren't allowed, but because of the diplomatic status, we were good. I don't remember the trip but it's a cool story at least.
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    Oh...I understand... But it's like saying, "This trip to Mexico City is epic. And for dinner we're going to our favorite Philly Cheesesteak restaurant"😉
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    I know when I think about food in Berlin, the first thing that comes to mind is sushi...😅
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    There's a chance that this Lia Thomas could break some of Katie Ledecky's records this year...that would be a travesty.

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