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This is the primary process, Hugo. The candidates have different beliefs and are trying to make their case. Don't take it so personally. I guarantee you Liz isn't.

Sherrod Brown would be a fantastic veep for Warren, if only we could afford to lose his seat.

Wait till the pro-life folks hear about this, they'll be outraged! Sorry, what's that? Oh, they heard and said that you've gotta break some eggs to make an omelette, plus Obama did it first? Ah, well, nevertheless.

The real issue is that many Americans do not trust the government to keep its promises. If people truly believe that the total costs under M4A will be less than they are now, they'd go for it, even with a tax increase. But the concern that many people have is that if we go all in on M4A, what if they get some huge tax increase and their overall costs actually go up, and there are no private insurer competitors to switch to, and all they get from the government is "sorry, we didn't think it would cost this much, but this is how things are now." You can explain the data and numbers all you want, but unless they trust you, it won't sell. There are two ways to deal with this. The first is convincing people to just trust you. This is what Bernie and Warren are attempting to do. The second is to push a plan that the data says is shittier and more expensive, but which leaves outs to make people comfortable that they won't be stuck in a situation they hate. This is what Pete and a few others are doing. I honestly don't know the best option. But since this isn't a health care referendum, I don't think it matters all that much right now, for reasons I've explained before. Plenty of people who are scared of M4A will vote for Warren because they know that there will be a lot of negotiation ahead.

Yeah, it's totally fine. I think Pete is making a mistake by going after her personally for a lack of candor instead of just saying M4A would raise taxes and that would be bad, if that is what he believes. But she should be able to handle it if she's the next president.

None of the candidates have really gone after anyone except Biden, because he's the front-runner and in most of the candidates' lanes, and it's backfired each time (Harris, Castro). That's the difficulty in a primary: you hurt the target and yourself, and only help the bystanders. Trump hacked the system by running on being a gigantic asshole, so his attacks on others were on brand, while everyone who attacked him hurt themselves, one by one. Cruz finished second only by being the last to attack Trump. Warren has done a great job of positioning herself for growth without needing to attack anyone and as the second option for people turned off by the attacks of others. Now we're going to see how she handles getting attacked, and that's a good thing.

What a shocker, it turns out that the image your gullible ass posted without any verification wasn't of Beto: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/another-bogus-beto-photo/ Republicans can't win without lying and cheating.

People have been blurring the lines on what they mean by M4A, intentionally, so it's hard to know what he meant.

Please tell me the whistleblower has a recording.

I should have known better than to bother asking, much less waste my time watching the video. Not only is 2012 a political lifetime ago, nothing in that video goes beyond mere generalities concerning the right of the minority to speak and the right of the majority to legislate. Bernie was directly asked at the last debate whether he supported eliminating the filibuster, and he said no, and then offered up budget reconciliation as a way to proceed. Whether or not he does truly support stripping the filibuster down to a 15 hour speech too, he sure missed a golden opportunity to say so, and is at best ambivalent. Back on ignore you go.

Maybe for Warren's veep

Bernie supports reducing the filibuster to a talking filibuster? At the last debate, his proposal was using budget reconciliation more often.

Unfortunately, there are a number of Dem Senators who don't support eliminating the filibuster, plus one independant who happens to be running for president as a Democrat, so we need a lot more than 51.

It's time for the whistleblower to go full Ellsberg.

She raised her hand in the first debate when asked who would get rid of private insurers, but then again, so did Harris. I don't think she's said anything definitive.

Both strategies are reasonable. Bernie is taking the approach of saying middle class taxes will go up and then trying to explain why that isn't a bad thing. Liz is taking the approach of calling out the very question as a Republican talking point and then reframing the discussion to total costs. I don't know if her strategy is the best option, but her impressive campaign has earned the benefit of the doubt from me.

No, she's a politician, and one who went from single digits in this race to second place in a few months while everyone else has stayed static or dropped. She's not in this to teach and lose; that's Bernie's thing. She's in this to win and actually get shit done.

Nice rationale from Trump. I wouldn't sell out our country when I know people are listening in on my conversations! Only when I meet with Putin and send everyone out except the interpreter, as to whom I invoke executive privilege to keep from testifying.

The reason she won't say it is that no matter how much context she puts around it, the media headlines will be that Warren says she will raise taxes on the middle class, and Republicans will take the tiny snippet of her saying yes, out of context, to push a false narrative. And she's also refusing to just lie, like many candidates and all Republicans would, so she's in a bind. It's not sustainable, so she's trying to get her context out as much as possible before stating what she must inevitably state.

Looks like some folks are really, really upset about the WFP endorsement. Maybe Biden or Yang supporters? I dunno...

KFC has entered the ring https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/17/us/kfc-donut-chicken-sandwich-trnd/index.html

I think it can only go so far and has probably reached it's peak. Everyone knows by now that she's competent and wonky; she needs to convey her vision and leadership. The best slogan I've seen from her is the one on her RV. I wouldn't have thought it would work, but it looked great visually IMO:

Adding "Can't lose!" to "Dream Big, Fight Hard" would really improve that one.

Her official slogans are "persist" and "Dream Big, Fight Hard."