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Tuco

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  1. My argument is that "strategy of destroying Israel" does not equate to a commitment to nuke Israel, despite how the rhetoric is generally presented. Edit: ...and Iran's role in 10/7 if far from proven fact.
  2. The genocide by American-backed Israel should prove that we hate Muslims.
  3. So, that's in response to me saying that Iran (or specifically Ahmadinejad) never said anything to indicate they would nuke Israel, given the chance. I'm still not seeing it in there. The "we have managed to obtain the capacity to destroy the impostor Zionist regime" isn't on the Wiki page you quoted, but I did find it on the Times of Israel article. It would be nice if the original source "IRGC's Sepah news site" was available to see the original context. But, can we agree that Iran didn't "manage to obtain the capacity to destroy the impostor Zionist regime" in 2019? As far as the typical rhetoric, the TofI article did start out: And, listen, Iran is full of shit, right. As stated originally, they are shitty. But of the types of statements - the "wipe Israel of the map" vs. "we love Jews" - which gets play in the US Press? What percentage of Americans do you think would be surprised about Khamenei's statements above. When I say propaganda, that's what I mean: the version of Iran that Americans sees is filtered, and therefore a half-truth at best.
  4. Disgusting.
  5. And hopefully you understand that position is part of the propaganda we have been fed. The translations are frequently in the most inflammatory ways possible. Anyone remember Ahmadinejad's "wipe Israel of the map"? He wanted to blow them up, right? But it's not a Farsi idiom. Per wikipedia: And that's not some super-radical idea. Many countries do not recognize Israel (the government that is in charge of the land) has the right to exist. That doesn't mean they have expressed a desire to nuke the land and the people. Nuking Israel doesn't free Palestine or Jerusalem, it just destroys them. It serves no purpose. It makes no sense. It is not something Iran is threatening to do. In order to believe that is Iran's plan, you have to have already decided Iran's decisions are completely illogical and suicidal. *Sidenote: Ahmadinejad is probably the worst, total shitstain fucker they've had as President in the last 25 years. He said plenty of dumb, terrible inflammatory shit, including questioning the Holocaust. But he never said anything to indicate he would nuke Israel given the opportunity. It's also worth noting he was elected after we invaded Iraq and were on their doorstep. We always push them to stupid fuckers like him.
  6. Hamas should absolutely be blamed for the brutal, barbaric murders of innocent people in Israel, specifically for the October 7 attacks, but others as well. Israel should be blamed for perpetuating a genocide in Gaza. Japan should be blamed for starting a war and then failing to end it, while they traded their people for better terms. So, yeah, they should be blamed for the number of deaths required to end it. Whether they should be blamed for Nagasaki and Hiroshima depends on whether you believe those were necessary to end the war. I think it's reasonable that Hiroshima could have ended it, had the US provided enough time for Japan to understand the damage. So, personally I think Nagasaki is on the US, but I get that opinions may differ. Hopefully we can all agree that it wasn't Italy's responsibility. I think we are way past the number of deaths required to be useful in stopping another October 7th attack. At this point, it's about revenge, expansion, and ethnic cleaning. It's genocide and Israel is entirely, 100% responsible for it.
  7. It was a response to blaming Iran for Israel systematically killing unarmed civilians in Gaza. It is the only reasonable response.
  8. "...and this is your brain on propaganda."
  9. Once she hits the water, she's like a mermaid. But the feet don't completely transform back on dry land. More Cabin in the Woods than Ariel.
  10. After it gets worse.
  11. When you presents those points as a justification for pre-emptive, military, deadly strikes on Iran, it implies that somehow those points are the criteria or reasonable justification for carrying out such strikes. I think that is partial truth, and therefore misleading. Let's start with your add on post: Okay. Do you think there is any ethical difference between killing civilians of a "western democracies" (a term which gets more meaningless by the day) and civilians of some other form of government? (I would argue that civilians in a democracy actually have more culpability in their government's actions than those of a theocracy.) Do you think there is an ethical difference how you kill civilians - terrorism or with intentional targeting by the military? Who was worse - the French Resistance murdering Nazi collaborators or Nazi soldiers lining up civilians and gunning them down? And, for my last question - over the last year, who do you think has intentionally killed more civilians - Israel or Iran? So, to me, the last point is obviously biased to justify the action.
  12. I can believe it, but I am curious to your reasoning. Care to expand?
  13. Do you really need a definition for propaganda? Do you acknowledge the continuous stream of propaganda regarding Iran for the last 50 years? Yep, sure, reasons. Iran's government sucks. No question or argument on that. But, do you not acknowledge the propaganda?
  14. If you’re worried about a dirty bomb, there is plenty of non radioactive shit that will kill you just as dead and much easier to transport. The focus on dirty bombs is just buzz word nonsense. And, of course, targets in Israel would be easier and higher priority.
  15. The last thing Bibi wants is a stable Iranian government that represents the will of its people and its sanctions lifted. (Saudi Arabia would also vote no on that scenario.) A chaotic, impoverished, suffering Iran makes for the best security for Israel and Saudi Arabia. So that is what will happen. Maybe they get a civil war out of it (for which we declare as progress towards a free Iran), but more likely it will just be continued bombings, destroying infrastructure and destabilizing the country. It’s harder to convert an adversary than it is to keep them weak.
  16. Pato for the win.
  17. Thank god we kept Saddam from getting nukes. Totally worth it.
  18. That I doubt. Israel is not going to try to occupy a country of 80 some million people that is not adjacent to their borders. Israel would much more likely fuel a prolonged civil war.
  19. What vote are you talking about? Israel has never been on the UN Security Council. We didn't pay Israel for their vote; we paid them for their restraint. (Which is one of the many reasons we should stop paying them, seeing how they have chucked that restraint in the bin.)
  20. Yep. And unless all those flipped counties were in states that the same exact technology vulnerability, it is unlikely that the vulnerability is what drove the results. Hypothetically, if five of the flipped states had this issue, while two states that didn't have the issue stayed blue, it would be more likely that those five states were hacked.
  21. Yep, NBCNews has head line that state officials are brining first degree murder charges.
  22. I agree with the overall idea, but I will push back on the "natural selection" because I think it gets too much play as a driver anti-social/anti-community behavior. We have communal instincts that were essential to our survival as a species. Physically, we ain't much in the animal kingdom. We've got thumbs and an efficient walk, but after that it gets pretty thin. If we didn't have the instinct to cooperate, we would have never made it as a species. Unlike a lot of species that have the alpha/harem mating dynamic, we are genetically predisposed to function as a family. (We have too big of heads to go full term in pregnancy, so we get squeezed out after nine months in a completely vulnerable state, requiring a mother to stay with the infant and a father to find food.) We almost certainly needed to hunt cooperatively, because a single human ain't chasing down, or killing, shit. And that is all pre-civilization; without civilization and the effects of shared, inherited, constantly improving knowledge, we don't come to dominate the world. But, some will compare ourselves to other species with more independent life-plans as evidence that it is part of our nature. Our individual competitive instincts are balanced against our cooperative instincts. I agree that balance may be out of whack with the demands of the modern world, but honestly I think a lot of our current problems go back to our communal instincts, and the need for MAGA to be part of something.
  23. Yep. I would definitely want state charges to move forward in parallel. All you need is some idiotic conspiracy theory that Trump likes on Truth and the feds will drop charges.
  24. And this guy deserves whatever awards good journalists get. Not only does he have balls of steel, he is actually explaining what is going on as the cops clear a bridge. And the long shot is like cinematic gold. Only one criticism, and it's a big one: don't ask the protestors, who may or may not be documented, personal information. They are wearing those masks for a reason.
  25. I love this community. We were thinking we were going to Tukwila, but then weren't needed, and then hit the march late coming out of the Westlake station. Just step right out of the train station into a political march. Great march. In these dark political times, it's cathartic to have something that feels like a celebration with people who aren't horrible. But Tukwila went sidewise, so a bittersweet day. The sense of community these marches create is so important. But the fuckers still are running shit.
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