American Swindle

Wholeheartedly disagree with you that it's asinine. What's asinine is the idea that any of these fuckers in Congress care to uphold the Constitution (with the exception of a small group.) Massie clearly lays out that he's been pushing for Congress to vote for the AUMF as the Constitution lays out, but that would require our Congressmen/women to actually record their stances for the support of war; and we know this is politically inconvenient. It's easy to go along with MSM foreign policy talking points my dude, but their are many out there that have boldly been calling it as it is since day 1 and very few exist on this board that can see it: Democrats and Republicans for the most part are both part of the War Party for political and special interest reasons. And if you consider Thomas Massie a moron, who do you suggest I follow or consider to get other takes from? Got any suggestions where I should get my information from to see things the way you see it?

I find that laughable. We’ve been at war for like fucking ever. The irony here is they whipped up a resolution and voted on keeping troops in Syria in what....like 5 minutes?...while never voting for the AUMF to send troops to Syria in the first place. Here’s the antithesis of one of those “bootlickers” to explain it for you. It pains me to say it but the only Party that is anti-war now is the Libertarian party. George W. Bush called Democrat’s, and he’s complaining that y’all jacked his foreign policy and warhawkish swagger.

I find that laughable. We’ve been at war for like fucking ever. The irony here is they whipped up a resolution and voted on keeping troops in Syria in what....like 5 minutes?...while never voting for the AUMF to send troops to Syria in the first place. Here’s the antithesis of one of those “bootlickers” to explain it for you. It pains me to say it but the only Party that is anti-war now is the Libertarian party. George W. Bush called Democrat’s, and he’s complaining that y’all jacked his foreign policy and warhawkish swagger.

There's this Constitution thing that was written a while back and it laid out Congress' War Powers....maybe we ought to embrace it for fucking once.

Don't mention Patrick Moore.

Is arming terrorists treason? Let's say they killed some of our service members in Iraq, this would mean that we literally armed an enemy that helped kill our soldiers. The argument can be made. Bush committed War Crimes, not Treason. I would argue that Trump could be impeached on the grounds of aiding SA in their slaughter and famine of Yemenis more so than this Ukraine deal. Also, the Kurds have the support of Syria now their only ally, but we don't like Syria, are ya'll okay with that now since we care so much about the Kurds or is it a "BUT ASSAD!!" deal breaker? I know, it was probably Tulsi that told Assad to do it.... It's enough to make one's head spin I know!

Not an argument, but keep circle jerkin around that Trump Cookie. I wonder which one of you TDS folks will be the one that has to eat it??? Are you saying that the CIA, during the Obama administration, didn't arm the moderate rebels in Syria (which was directed by John McCain?) They did so with the intention of them rallying to supress the Assad regime and that shit backfired. The aftermath was that they diverted those arms and resources to Iraq during the Obama years. Wouldn't you know, the mainstream narrative was Obama left Iraq and ISIS was empowered!! All the while they were empowered by us arming them to supress Assad. BUT WE HAVE TO BE THERE OR THEY"LL COME HERE!?? Maybe you lefties will actually stand for the anti-war principle this time being that Trump hypocritically deployed troops to Saudi Arabia to help fight the Yemenis (which have also been slaughtered due to our support of the violent Saudi Regime) while simultaneously clamoring on Twitter to END THE ENDLESS WARS!!?!?!!? Trump has to grapple with that hypocrisy with the anti-war crowd, I say bring em' home and fuck interventionism.

Meh, not sure if that meets the threshold. However,I think the argument could be made that John Brennan's actions during Obama's term constitutes treason as his apparatus literally armed ISIS, but I don't expect this take to get any love on this thread as he's been a force for what seems to be the continued coup to get rid of the Dotard since day 1. It is really amazing to see those have so much hate for a democratically elected president that they are willing to side with the IC's abuse of power to see him go down. On the other hand, as an anti-war advocate, I'm pissed that the orange man is letting the SA troop deployment happen while simultaneously pulling troops out of Syria. Bring the troops home across the board I say.

Rubbermaid had a line of collegiate cans and we had some so at the time I solicited them on shaggy

Forgot to bring in her expansion on the main point in her tweet: While all this political/media class cheerleading for whistleblower protections is going on, the most prominent whistleblower in America remains imprisoned for taking a principled stand against secret grand juries while being driven into crippling debt. Chelsea Manning is still racking up fines of $1,000 per day while locked in a Virginia federal detention center for refusing to testify against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. The mainstream press that is so keen to champion a “whistleblower” who works for the CIA and provided information which feeds into America’s fake partisan pro wrestling feud has been almost completely silent on the actual whistleblower who exposed actual US war crimes.

I think he's being outrageous and deflecting from the Caitlin's substance in the article that pertains to the thread. Here's more from the article from the rogue journalist who's more left leaning than anything and has been a prominent supporter of Assange, anti-US Empire/Foreign Policy, and was outspoken in her critique of the Russia-Trump narrative being a total nothingburger: So there you have it. A mysterious stranger from the lying, torturing, propagandizing, drug trafficking, assassinating, coup-staging, warmongering, psychopathic CIA was working in the White House, heroically provided the political/media class with politically powerful information out of the goodness of his heart, and then vanished off into the Langley sunset. Clearly there is nothing suspicious about this story at all. In all seriousness, even to call this spook a “whistleblower” is ridiculous on its face. You don’t get to call someone from the US intelligence community a whistleblower unless they are actually whistleblowing on the US intelligence community. That’s not a thing. A CIA officer who exposes information about government officials is an operative performing an operation unless proven otherwise, because that’s what the CIA does; it liberally leaks information wherever it’s convenient for CIA agendas while withholding all other information behind a veil of government secrecy. What about the term spook in the article would lead one to believe it was being used as disparaging black people? Outrage culture gonna outrage.

Your source is using racist term to describe the whistleblower. Certainly emblematic of trumpists though spook Also found in: Thesaurus, Acronyms, Idioms, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. spook (spo͞ok)n. 1. Informal A ghost; a specter. 2. Slang A secret agent; a spy. 3. Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a black person. Pick the one that fits your narrative I guess? Context matters no?

Beto Beto Beto.....

I didn't know you cared not for the poor? Are you a libertarian or something?

An alternative opinion on the matter: https://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2018/MurphyNordhaus.html Bring on the attacks of the source and Nordhaus.....

Yeah I did. I know...it's the type of insight that is associated with so much winning. PM for the secret

I think maybe she's fed up with the homeless making themselves at home all over Austin and the overpasses...

That's irony as Ron Peezy is hardcore anti-regulation and anti-State which she seemed to be supporting in her tweet....okay, no cloakroom.

Yes, and while we are all paralyzed by the drama of climate change fear, potential impeachment, more war based on BS propaganda, the below gets a micro-blip of coverage: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack-drones-idUSKBN1W40NW

He hold's a position that's not on the 3x5 card of allowable opinion. Mop vs. Mob

Yes. That Trump shouldn't be Saudi Arabia's bitch nor should we as a country.

Ahh yes, the ole' Politics vs Principle catch 22 for politicians, got it. It's okay to vote for wasteful spending as long as it doesn't shut down the apparatus that bleeds us dry of our tax dollars. Also, IMO, it doesn't matter who crafted the bill or wrote it, it's the fact that both sides supported it as they usually do when it comes to increasing federal spending. You complain about wasting money at the Pentagon (a good principled stance), but then claim "it's okay to vote for the wasteful spending because of....uh politics!" You can't have it both ways in my opinion.

There's an unpopular Democrat running for President who keeps saying "being Saudi Arabia's bitch is not putting Americans First...." or some shit like that.