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I assume the MWC is playing hard ball here to get them to join. Adding two formerly P5 level schools in new states is appealing, but the reality here is if they don’t then and those two school peel off a best of the rest conference, that would be a direct threat to the majority of the MWC. At first, with the shock of the PAC12 dying, the MWC offering the PAC2 a scheduling agreement was an olive branch to hopefully get them to join. But as a year has gone by and they don’t appear to be interested in joining as full members, the MWC has no need or desire to continue to help them.

They have the playoff payout and some bowl/sponsorship agreements plus they have some conference assets still to be liquidated…but joining the MWC is not what they want. They want to take the best of the MWC (Boise, Fresno, SDSU, etc) and AAC (Tulane, Memphis, UTSA) and make a new PAC that is better than both. They will only join the MWC once they have exhausted all of their other options.

AP poll out https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll1 Georgia(1-0)Southeastern - 1545 (57) 2 Ohio State(1-0)Big Ten - 1478 (5) 3 Texas(1-0)Southeastern 1 1418 (0) 4 Alabama(1-0)Southeastern 1 1309 (0) 5 Notre Dame(1-0)IA Independents 2 1240 (0) 6 Ole Miss(1-0)Southeastern - 1212 (0) 7 Oregon(1-0)Big Ten -4 1197 (0) 8 Penn State(1-0)Big Ten - 1146 (0) 9 Missouri(1-0)Southeastern 2 968 (0) 10 Michigan(1-0)Big Ten -1 935 (0) 11 Utah(1-0)Big 12 1 897 (0) 12 Miami (FL)(1-0)Atlantic Coast 7 893 (0) 13 USC(1-0)Big Ten 10 811 (0) 14 Tennessee(1-0)Southeastern 1 784 (0) 15 Oklahoma(1-0)Southeastern 1 703 (0) 16 Oklahoma State(1-0)Big 12 1 610 (0) 17 Kansas State(1-0)Big 12 1 607 (0) 18 LSU(0-1)Southeastern -5 410 (0) 19 Kansas(1-0)Big 12 3 349 (0) 20 Arizona(1-0)Big 12 1 339 (0) 21 Iowa(1-0)Big Ten 4 294 (0) 22 Louisville(1-0)Atlantic Coast - 188 (0) 23 Georgia Tech(2-0)Atlantic Coast - 161 (0) 24 North Carolina State(1-0)Atlantic Coast - 142 (0) 25 Clemson(0-1)Atlantic Coast -11 134 (0) OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Texas A&M 97, Boston College 49, Boise St. 47, Iowa St. 32, Memphis 27, Nebraska 27, SMU 23, Washington 20, Liberty 12, Vanderbilt 8, Wisconsin 8, Auburn 8, Tulane 4, North Carolina 4, UTSA 3, Appalachian St. 3, Kentucky 2, West Virginia 2, Arkansas 2, UNLV 1, Colorado 1.Point values in parentheses indicate the number of first place votes.

Coaches Poll was just released for week 2. https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/football/ncaaf/coaches-poll Week 2 results: Published September 03, 2024 Rank Team Record PTS 1st Prev Chg Hi/Lo 1 Georgia 1-0 1371 51 1 - 1/1 2 Ohio State 1-0 1316 3 2 - 2/2 3 Texas 1-0 1245 1 4 +1 3/4 4 Alabama 1-0 1172 0 5 +1 4/5 5 Ole Miss 1-0 1081 0 6 +1 5/6 6 Oregon 1-0 1080 0 3 -3 3/6 7 Notre Dame 1-0 1079 0 7 - 7/7 8 Penn State 1-0 987 0 9 +1 8/9 9 Michigan 1-0 919 0 8 -1 8/9 10 Missouri 1-0 848 0 11 +1 10/11 11 Utah 1-0 779 0 13 +2 11/13 12 Tennessee 1-0 753 0 15 +3 12/15 13 Oklahoma 1-0 705 0 16 +3 13/16 14 USC 1-0 655 0 23 +9 14/23 15 Miami (FL) 1-0 650 0 19 +4 15/19 16 Kansas State 1-0 537 0 17 +1 16/17 17 Oklahoma State 1-0 499 0 18 +1 17/18 18 Arizona 1-0 348 0 21 +3 18/21 19 LSU 0-1 341 0 12 -7 12/19 20 Kansas 1-0 295 0 24 +4 20/24 21 Iowa 1-0 260 0 25 +4 21/25 22 Clemson 0-1 223 0 14 -8 14/22 23 North Carolina State 1-0 154 0 22 -1 22/23 24 Louisville 1-0 101 0 NR +3 24/NR 25 Washington 1-0 95 0 NR +1 25/NR Schools Dropped Out No. 10 Florida State; No. 20 Texas A&M; Others Receiving Votes Georgia Tech 86; Texas A&M 78; Memphis 43; Kentucky 23; Boise State 22; SMU 19; Auburn 13; Wisconsin 11; Iowa State 10; UNLV 9; Tulane 9; Maryland 9; Liberty 9; Nebraska 8; Boston College 7; South Florida 5; James Madison 4; Air Force 4; UTSA 3; North Carolina 3; Appalachian State 3; Texas State 2; Syracuse 1; Coastal Carolina 1;

Agree. They should but they are arrogant and the MW conference wants them to come in on equal footing. They just got past Boise State’s special TV deal they don’t want to add 2 more programs that think they are above reproach. I get them not joining until 2026 and waiting to see if anymore realignment/playoff changes shake out but thinking you’ll cherry pick over half of the MWC is just lunacy.

I think Sark will always be on the lookout for big time WR in the portal but I think it will more likely be 0-1 per year. Want to supplement with the portal, not be dependent on the portal.

He’s not fired because they just gave him an extension. 1% chance they win the ACC isn’t unreasonable, and that would still put them in the playoffs. They could still lose two more non conference games (Memphis, ND, UF) and they’d be a top 25 team and likely/probably one of the top 5 conference champions at 9-4 like Oklahoma State was last year, as long as they win the ACC because they will not get an at large spot.

PAC2 and MWC did not reach a deal for 2025. Still time but looking like OrSU/WSU are going to have to fill a full 12 games as independents in less than a year. Oregon State will need 5 games and Washington St will need 6 but nothing they currently have is scheduled for October or November. Looks like ND and UConn could use one more game so that could help but not sure how they’ll make this happen. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41100415/sources-pac-12-mountain-west-football-reach-deal-25

I did not have Earl Campbell catching strays on a Labor Day Boston College game on my bingo card.

Obviously the SEC was always going to get better placement, but people on this thread didn’t buy in that they’d get all 3 ABC windows with regularity. With week 3 schedule out now we can see that the SEC has been on EVERY Saturday time spot on ABC so far (9) and all but 2 (K State/Tulane and FSU/Memphis) of the non-late spots on ESPN. On the bright side, SEC conference play starts soon and with the SECN inventory requirement, it’s unlikely they’ll fill all 6 of those spots week in and week out. Still based on this three week sample, it seems like 3 SEC games on ABC will happen pretty often, which is why that 2:30 window (and 7pm window after MLB ends) on FOX is a major win for the Big 12.

The Big 12 next weekend for week 2 has a good line up of well represented games. Friday night game on ESPN2 11am one of ABC, one on ESPN, and one on ESPN2 230 one on FOX one on CBS 7pm on NBC, FS1, and SECN Late on FOX and ESPN 4 streaming That 230 window on FOX will be huge for them all year long. A better situation than the ACC by far. Those other big OTA games on NBC and CBS are rivalry games NU/CU and Cyhawk (which is what the conference should lean into) and an OSU matchup with Arkansas (opposite Texas @ Michigan) where Disney is still putting 3 games involving SEC teams back to back to back on ABC. Also seems like Colorado is helping the conference out quite a bit here: Week 1 on ESPN, 2 on NBC, 3 on CBS…but good for them, enjoy it while it lasts

They scared. https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/story/sports/columns/2024/08/29/sec-football-texas-first-season-championship-history/74851097007/ If the SEC wants to hold its reputation, Texas can't be a first-year champ

So you’re telling me, he’s paid for his NAME? I think that’s covered since NIL means that they can be compensated for their NAME, image, and likeness.

The SEC took all 6 prime slots on ABC and ESPN on Saturday, plus the Sunday night game on ABC and the Friday night game on ESPN. They also put 4 on the SECN, 1 on ESPNU. 3 went to streaming on ESPN+. The Big 12 had 3 games on ESPN (2 in the late windows and Colorado’s prime Thursday placement). West Virginia got Big Noon on FOX and then they had the 230, 6pm and late window on FS1. After that they had a whopping 9 games on streaming. This is pretty much what I expected. They’ll get one on FOX and one on ESPN (maybe once in a blue get an ABC window). The 4corners will be pushed to cover the late window regularly and the ETZ/CTZ teams will be fighting over windows on FS1/ESPN2/U. What’s left over gets dropped to streaming. You better buy ESPN+ if you are a Big 12 fan.

It’s the designating players part from a donor that makes it iffy. The “idea” behind the collective is the masses donate to a general fund and then the fund pay the players for their name/image/likeness. The donor is separate from the collective which is separate from the school and players. The barriers between each of those parties is what makes paying players this way legal. The close you get to hundred dollar handshakes (which is what it sounds like Okie St was trying recreate) is how you get the NCAA coming after you.

Yeah, but that’s illegal. You can’t pay for play directly. The player has to do something with their name, image, and likeness for that cash. Maybe there is more to it behind the scenes that makes it legal, but if it’s just a QR code to put money into a player’s bank account, that is still illegal.

I literally posted the link the last time you said it was not a thing. Please understand, we do NOT make up this shit, there is no need to, the truth is damning enough. https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/the-aggie-bonfire-tragedy/

I don’t care much about their recruits, but they have a few current players on defense that would be intriguing.

If we’re wish casting let’s have him start for three years, win three titles and two heismans.

Just a cramp for Blue

They also both were in Austin when we played Alabama in 2022.

It’s already been more than 105k, maybe they can get it to 106k but I doubt it can hold more (without having the fire Marshall shut it down) Record Attendance: 105,213 vs Alabama Crimson Tide (September 10, 2022) See above. While a new scoreboard would be nice for the fans in sections 1-3 and 30-32 (the people in the fancy seats have their own TVs). I can’t image they’ll be taking out seats when they are selling out season tickets right now. I have no inside information on this so maybe I’m wrong but I wouldn’t bet getting one put in until 2028 when we’ve been in the new conference for a few years and get past those scheduled home visits by Michigan and Ohio State.

Easy answer, the only Irish games on ABC/ESPN this year are: Week 1 @aggy Week 8 @Georgia Tech (same week as UGA at Texas so highly unlikely) Week 9 @Navy (unless Navy is ranked it’s unlikely) Now they CAN go to a big ranked vs ranked ND game helmet game that they don’t air like the FSU game on NBC (same day as UGA/Ole Miss and Bama/LSU) or the USC game on one a Big Ten channel (unlikely when it’s rivalry week) but ND’s schedule is pretty weak this year and the few games they do have are during weeks that are packed with other big time games. So they get an Irish game on an SEC campus where they can talk about their new head coach who previously coach at ND. The bullshit segments write themselves and it checks more boxes than UGA and Clemson do. They also know they likely will be at multiple UGA games this season (Bama, Texas, OleMiss) and like @4th&Five said this one is at a a soulless NFL stadium which is not the best atmosphere for the first full weekend of the year.

The PAC12’s TV numbers weren’t horrible, just not great. I give BY credit for jumping the line and understanding that the appetite/money for more just wasn’t there. I also think expanding to 16 was wise because with a quantity of 8 games a week you’ll likely find at least one worthwhile marquee level which the networks will like that could get casual fans to watch especially if the SEC/B1G games are lackluster. I think some universities could use some PE money and investment. I would shy away from any deal in perpetuity and make their equity stake non transferable. You have to get a PE firm into a deal where there are realistic scenarios where they can lose money and not put yourself on the hook. There are plenty of schools that would love to build things to drive revenue but don’t have the funds and this could be a good thing, but I don’t see how getting them involved in a specific athletic program would bring value. The land, fans, logo, and facilities are all owned the by school. Only the coach, players and media deals are program specific.