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We have a one game losing record to Penn St, Northwestern, and Minnesota. I say we go after those first if we’re playing Big Ten schools OOC.

Flying out of the executive airport with your own booze from home beats both.

This is how Oceania/Air Strip One came to be…

I get that, but some games deserve to be prime time and that arrangement is fucking shit up. I wanted to see the Big House at night. Alabama at Texas should have been a night game too.

Florida is likely coming off a loss to UGA the week before and we’ll be fresh off a bye week. They aren’t expecting that game to be competitive. I’m happy the Arkansas game is 11am but fuck FOX for giving us Big Noon against Michigan. I think two 11am games a year is fine. If the other 8 are 230 or 7pm I won’t complain.

I don’t fault Georgia or Oklahoma for that. The conference wanted to build up the excitement. Again many SEC teams schedule like little bitches, for example Tennessee hasn’t played a major opponent since Oklahoma back in 2015, but to act like they all do this is dumb, just look at the examples I listed above. Texas had series scheduled with LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Florida; and they also played many of the same level schools from other conferences such as USC/Oregon/UCLA, Florida St/Clemson/Miami, Notre Dame… the only way you could improve that list would be to add Oklahoma (which some had scheduled) Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State. If your criticism of the top of the SEC is basically they need to schedule the top 3 teams in the Big Ten or they are soft then your expectations are just a bit unreasonable.

UTSA on ESPN and ULM on SECN are night games in DKR. Florida at DKR is 11a, Michigan at the Big House is Big Noon, and the game in Fayetteville is also early. Colorado St and Mississippi State in DKR are afternoon kicks, as well as OU at the Cotton Bowl, and Vandy in Nashville. UGA and UK are “flex” meaning either 230 or 7. The game at aggy is also a “flex”.

It’s true that most of the SEC loves soft schedules, but the top/elite of the SEC does not. Here are the big dogs and who they’ve played over the last 10 years… Alabama: Texas, Wisconsin, Miami, Florida St, USC, Louisville Georgia: Oregon, Clemson, Notre Dame, North Carolina, plus Georgia Tech each year Florida: Miami, Utah, Michigan, UCF, USF, and (not as impressive until you remember) they play Florida State each year LSU: Wisconsin, Miami, Texas, UCLA, Florida Stare, USC and even aggy (credit where credit is due): Oregon, Miami, UCLA, Clemson, Notre Dame I do think the recent realignment will slow down this type of scheduling some but I doubt it goes away completely. Bluebloods will still want to play other bluebloods and near blueblood type teams, plus opening up a CFP to 12 give these teams a mulligan especially it it’s a high caliber matchup like Alabama/Texas last year.

The Disch isn’t moving, and I doubt it’ll get torn down for a full rebuild, they invested a lot in building it up over the years. They were able to use more land between 21st/22nd than was what was originally in the master plan so I’m not sure they’ll use the lot behind the softball field anytime soon (see below) so the softball field could get demolished and rebuilt with a bigger footprint.

DONG!

I’m not claiming this thought layout is perfect, it’s just my general way of thinking about the leagues. While I know we all have some bias here but I think bumping Miami (who has a BCS championship and played in 4 BCS bowls) down and Kentucky/South Carolina (who have never played in a BCS/NY6 bowl) up just isn’t going to sit right with me (Arkansas at least made a BCS Sugar Bowl once). I’d be more likely to bump up Ole Miss or Mizzou if I had to move anyone up. Regardless, my main point is that no other teams are going to add value to the SEC. If they want to ever expand it will be dilutive unless they do it along with FSU/Clemson. Take those and then go after UNC/UVA to complete the footprint and claim DC to KC and DFW to ATL and everything near and in between. There isn’t much the Big Ten could do to fight that even if they went all in on Miami, Georgia Tech, Duke, NCSU, and Virginia Tech. FSU/Clemson along with adding Texas/OU in this last round more than offset any perceived lack of strength from adding the flagship’s of Tobacco Road.

The conference is still claiming Texas and Oklahoma’s national titles but have scrubbed how many conference championships we won from their main webpage and wiki page. They did not do this when the other members left…wonder why? https://big12sports.com/news/2011/6/1/205160610.aspx https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_Conference

Saw them run 10 year old footage of Johnny football in the montage a few times so they should be happy.

Depends on what you’re counting I guess. When was the last time either of those played for a conference title or had a team with playoff potential late in the season? I just don’t see much of a difference between those programs. If we’re counting resources I assume aggy would be towards the top of the list but I don’t think many would put them before anyone I had above them (save maybe Tennessee). And likewise UCLA is hurting for money right now but I don’t think anyone truly believes they be permanently at the bottom of the pack. Maybe you’d rather I just list them in tiers Tier 1- bluebloods and those moving that direction SEC(6): Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas B1G(4): Michigan, Ohio St, Pedo, USC Other(3) Notre Dame, Florida St, Clemson Tier 2- above average programs SEC(3): Auburn, Tennessee, aggy B1G(5): Michigan St, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin Other(1): Miami Tier 3- average, where most of college football lives SEC(5): Arkansas, Kentucky, Mizzou, Ole Miss, South Carolina B1G(4): Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, UCLA Other(7*): K State, North Carolina, NCSU, Oklahoma St, TCU, Virginia Tech, West Virginia (stopping at 7 but I assume you get my point, the majority would be here) Tier 4- below average SEC(2): Mississippi St, Vanderbilt B1G(5): Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers Other(3*): Duke, Kansas, Virginia

Whatever you want I was just listing them in general on football (bluebloods, near bluebloods, and just outside) we could line them up by national titles or all time wins or whatever, that wasn’t really the point. The point was that it’s roughly balanced before we hit the basketball schools, private schools, has beens and/or never been.

Just turned on the SECN to see what Oklahoma was doing.

Stack rank the best of SEC versus the best of the Big Ten. Texas/Michigan Bama/tOSU OU/Pedo UGA/USC LSU/Oregon Florida/Nebraska Tenn/Wisconsin aggy/Mich St Aub/Washington Ole Miss/Iowa Yea, the dregs of the Big Ten bring down the AVERAGE but FOX isn’t selling the dregs they are selling the best. If they let Florida St and Clemson join the Big Ten along with the eventual inevitability of Notre Dame and they’ll have a clear edge. Those 3 programs are the only top 25 stadiums by capacity not currently in the Big Ten/SEC. I’m not saying that if this happen the SEC is doomed by any means…but I think both the SEC and ESPN would be making a major mistake to let them go without a fight.

UNC’s numbers don’t bother me if you’re bringing them into the SEC with FSU/Clemson but this is exactly why I’m less confident in Virginia. UVA checks a lot of boxes, but football/viewership is not one of them. If added, they likely join Vanderbilt football as a near permanent fixture on the SECN each Saturday. Virginia Tech’s numbers, despite not having the best decade, are respectable and their stadium is the 4th largest in campus stadium not in the SEC/B1G (a good indicator of fan support).

Cedric Golden seems like a douche bag.

You could be right on UVA (I’ve seen Virginia Tech fans make good arguments against them) but you are 100% wrong on UNC, they likely are the MOST valuable property still out there not named Notre Dame. If a school left the SEC and they were looking for a single replacement, UNC would be the first call, hands down. I agree. UVA isn’t as clear but those two schools do check every box except football. Large public flagship universities in geography contiguous Southern states with large populations and new media markets that excel in basketball, baseball, non rev sports, and (even though that doesn’t matter that much) elite academics. Adding just FSU/Clemson means 10 out of 18 teams have CFP/BCS titles and the league might be too competitive. But if you bring them in along with UNC/UVA you improve every aspect of the league while keeping the competition similar to what it currently is.

I’ve said it before and will say it again. The headgear is iconic. Corso is going away. Saban is replacing him as the coach of the desk. McAfee is replacing him as the showman/clown and will do the headgear. You’ll have Desmond, Rece, Saban, McAfee, and Herby manning the desk once Corso ride off into the sunset.

If he posts a CR post report it and move on. You just coming into the thread and shitting on the information being provided isn’t helpful. It’s lazy. I would ask instead that you put in the effort and post your own twitter links or news stories. I think many would welcome some additional content to counter balance the current narrative that is being supplied in the thread.

Oregon fans: ”Five dollars a beer. Good gosh! I never ever want to leave here…”

This guy seems uninformed… https://sportsnaut.com/texas-longhorns-oklahoma-sooners-to-allstate-12/amp/