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Coaches Poll was just released for week 2. https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/football/ncaaf/coaches-poll Week 2 results: Published September 03, 2024 Rank Team Record PTS 1st Prev Chg Hi/Lo 1 Georgia 1-0 1371 51 1 - 1/1 2 Ohio State 1-0 1316 3 2 - 2/2 3 Texas 1-0 1245 1 4 +1 3/4 4 Alabama 1-0 1172 0 5 +1 4/5 5 Ole Miss 1-0 1081 0 6 +1 5/6 6 Oregon 1-0 1080 0 3 -3 3/6 7 Notre Dame 1-0 1079 0 7 - 7/7 8 Penn State 1-0 987 0 9 +1 8/9 9 Michigan 1-0 919 0 8 -1 8/9 10 Missouri 1-0 848 0 11 +1 10/11 11 Utah 1-0 779 0 13 +2 11/13 12 Tennessee 1-0 753 0 15 +3 12/15 13 Oklahoma 1-0 705 0 16 +3 13/16 14 USC 1-0 655 0 23 +9 14/23 15 Miami (FL) 1-0 650 0 19 +4 15/19 16 Kansas State 1-0 537 0 17 +1 16/17 17 Oklahoma State 1-0 499 0 18 +1 17/18 18 Arizona 1-0 348 0 21 +3 18/21 19 LSU 0-1 341 0 12 -7 12/19 20 Kansas 1-0 295 0 24 +4 20/24 21 Iowa 1-0 260 0 25 +4 21/25 22 Clemson 0-1 223 0 14 -8 14/22 23 North Carolina State 1-0 154 0 22 -1 22/23 24 Louisville 1-0 101 0 NR +3 24/NR 25 Washington 1-0 95 0 NR +1 25/NR Schools Dropped Out No. 10 Florida State; No. 20 Texas A&M; Others Receiving Votes Georgia Tech 86; Texas A&M 78; Memphis 43; Kentucky 23; Boise State 22; SMU 19; Auburn 13; Wisconsin 11; Iowa State 10; UNLV 9; Tulane 9; Maryland 9; Liberty 9; Nebraska 8; Boston College 7; South Florida 5; James Madison 4; Air Force 4; UTSA 3; North Carolina 3; Appalachian State 3; Texas State 2; Syracuse 1; Coastal Carolina 1;
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Agree. They should but they are arrogant and the MW conference wants them to come in on equal footing. They just got past Boise State’s special TV deal they don’t want to add 2 more programs that think they are above reproach. I get them not joining until 2026 and waiting to see if anymore realignment/playoff changes shake out but thinking you’ll cherry pick over half of the MWC is just lunacy.
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Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out
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I think Sark will always be on the lookout for big time WR in the portal but I think it will more likely be 0-1 per year. Want to supplement with the portal, not be dependent on the portal. -
He’s not fired because they just gave him an extension. 1% chance they win the ACC isn’t unreasonable, and that would still put them in the playoffs. They could still lose two more non conference games (Memphis, ND, UF) and they’d be a top 25 team and likely/probably one of the top 5 conference champions at 9-4 like Oklahoma State was last year, as long as they win the ACC because they will not get an at large spot.
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PAC2 and MWC did not reach a deal for 2025. Still time but looking like OrSU/WSU are going to have to fill a full 12 games as independents in less than a year. Oregon State will need 5 games and Washington St will need 6 but nothing they currently have is scheduled for October or November. Looks like ND and UConn could use one more game so that could help but not sure how they’ll make this happen. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41100415/sources-pac-12-mountain-west-football-reach-deal-25
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I did not have Earl Campbell catching strays on a Labor Day Boston College game on my bingo card.
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Obviously the SEC was always going to get better placement, but people on this thread didn’t buy in that they’d get all 3 ABC windows with regularity. With week 3 schedule out now we can see that the SEC has been on EVERY Saturday time spot on ABC so far (9) and all but 2 (K State/Tulane and FSU/Memphis) of the non-late spots on ESPN. On the bright side, SEC conference play starts soon and with the SECN inventory requirement, it’s unlikely they’ll fill all 6 of those spots week in and week out. Still based on this three week sample, it seems like 3 SEC games on ABC will happen pretty often, which is why that 2:30 window (and 7pm window after MLB ends) on FOX is a major win for the Big 12.
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The Big 12 next weekend for week 2 has a good line up of well represented games. Friday night game on ESPN2 11am one of ABC, one on ESPN, and one on ESPN2 230 one on FOX one on CBS 7pm on NBC, FS1, and SECN Late on FOX and ESPN 4 streaming That 230 window on FOX will be huge for them all year long. A better situation than the ACC by far. Those other big OTA games on NBC and CBS are rivalry games NU/CU and Cyhawk (which is what the conference should lean into) and an OSU matchup with Arkansas (opposite Texas @ Michigan) where Disney is still putting 3 games involving SEC teams back to back to back on ABC. Also seems like Colorado is helping the conference out quite a bit here: Week 1 on ESPN, 2 on NBC, 3 on CBS…but good for them, enjoy it while it lasts
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They scared. https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/story/sports/columns/2024/08/29/sec-football-texas-first-season-championship-history/74851097007/ If the SEC wants to hold its reputation, Texas can't be a first-year champ
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So you’re telling me, he’s paid for his NAME? I think that’s covered since NIL means that they can be compensated for their NAME, image, and likeness.
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The SEC took all 6 prime slots on ABC and ESPN on Saturday, plus the Sunday night game on ABC and the Friday night game on ESPN. They also put 4 on the SECN, 1 on ESPNU. 3 went to streaming on ESPN+. The Big 12 had 3 games on ESPN (2 in the late windows and Colorado’s prime Thursday placement). West Virginia got Big Noon on FOX and then they had the 230, 6pm and late window on FS1. After that they had a whopping 9 games on streaming. This is pretty much what I expected. They’ll get one on FOX and one on ESPN (maybe once in a blue get an ABC window). The 4corners will be pushed to cover the late window regularly and the ETZ/CTZ teams will be fighting over windows on FS1/ESPN2/U. What’s left over gets dropped to streaming. You better buy ESPN+ if you are a Big 12 fan.
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It’s the designating players part from a donor that makes it iffy. The “idea” behind the collective is the masses donate to a general fund and then the fund pay the players for their name/image/likeness. The donor is separate from the collective which is separate from the school and players. The barriers between each of those parties is what makes paying players this way legal. The close you get to hundred dollar handshakes (which is what it sounds like Okie St was trying recreate) is how you get the NCAA coming after you.
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Yeah, but that’s illegal. You can’t pay for play directly. The player has to do something with their name, image, and likeness for that cash. Maybe there is more to it behind the scenes that makes it legal, but if it’s just a QR code to put money into a player’s bank account, that is still illegal.
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I literally posted the link the last time you said it was not a thing. Please understand, we do NOT make up this shit, there is no need to, the truth is damning enough. https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/the-aggie-bonfire-tragedy/
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Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out
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I don’t care much about their recruits, but they have a few current players on defense that would be intriguing. -
If we’re wish casting let’s have him start for three years, win three titles and two heismans.
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Just a cramp for Blue
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They also both were in Austin when we played Alabama in 2022.
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It’s already been more than 105k, maybe they can get it to 106k but I doubt it can hold more (without having the fire Marshall shut it down) Record Attendance: 105,213 vs Alabama Crimson Tide (September 10, 2022) See above. While a new scoreboard would be nice for the fans in sections 1-3 and 30-32 (the people in the fancy seats have their own TVs). I can’t image they’ll be taking out seats when they are selling out season tickets right now. I have no inside information on this so maybe I’m wrong but I wouldn’t bet getting one put in until 2028 when we’ve been in the new conference for a few years and get past those scheduled home visits by Michigan and Ohio State.
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Easy answer, the only Irish games on ABC/ESPN this year are: Week 1 @aggy Week 8 @Georgia Tech (same week as UGA at Texas so highly unlikely) Week 9 @Navy (unless Navy is ranked it’s unlikely) Now they CAN go to a big ranked vs ranked ND game helmet game that they don’t air like the FSU game on NBC (same day as UGA/Ole Miss and Bama/LSU) or the USC game on one a Big Ten channel (unlikely when it’s rivalry week) but ND’s schedule is pretty weak this year and the few games they do have are during weeks that are packed with other big time games. So they get an Irish game on an SEC campus where they can talk about their new head coach who previously coach at ND. The bullshit segments write themselves and it checks more boxes than UGA and Clemson do. They also know they likely will be at multiple UGA games this season (Bama, Texas, OleMiss) and like @4th&Five said this one is at a a soulless NFL stadium which is not the best atmosphere for the first full weekend of the year.
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The PAC12’s TV numbers weren’t horrible, just not great. I give BY credit for jumping the line and understanding that the appetite/money for more just wasn’t there. I also think expanding to 16 was wise because with a quantity of 8 games a week you’ll likely find at least one worthwhile marquee level which the networks will like that could get casual fans to watch especially if the SEC/B1G games are lackluster. I think some universities could use some PE money and investment. I would shy away from any deal in perpetuity and make their equity stake non transferable. You have to get a PE firm into a deal where there are realistic scenarios where they can lose money and not put yourself on the hook. There are plenty of schools that would love to build things to drive revenue but don’t have the funds and this could be a good thing, but I don’t see how getting them involved in a specific athletic program would bring value. The land, fans, logo, and facilities are all owned the by school. Only the coach, players and media deals are program specific.
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The booming TV deals have slowed, see the PAC12. They will still go up but it won’t be a boom. The hope is that PE can recoup its cost in the next deal on the increase, meaning take my $100million now and we’ll start paying ourselves back on the increase so you won’t feel the pinch. I think you’re a bit off on what PE will do for the Big 12. NIL, coaches, and stadiums? Maybe in some aspects but they will mainly stick to their bread and butter, branding/marketing deals, putting your logo on cheap from China then charging out the ass for it, real estate deals like turning turning stadium parking lots into garages to fit more parking and opening up a high rise hotel/bar on top that will print money during football season…that kind of thing. They may have a hand in some other the others but their impact in those areas will be minimal.
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I think the NCAA will still exist just like the NAIA does. Running Track and field and rowing competitions does not need a gigantic organization another cost savings. I’ve said it on here before but I think the mainstream team sports where you have teammates working together on a floor/field will get pulled into this new “CFP” like organization: men’s football, basketball, baseball, and women’s basketball, softball, volleyball, soccer. The more individual Olympic can remain with the NCAA, these generally don’t make money and would limit teams from competing against the best. The best golfer, swimmer, or runner could go to Harvard or UCSD but it’s unlikely that their mainstream team sports would be competitive enough to truly compete for a national championship. Examples are: Tennis, Golf, S&D, T&F, cross country, wrestling, and gymnastics. The more regional sports with less participation would also need to stay in the NCAA for the wider field. Here are some examples along with how few currently compete in a P4 conference men’s soccer (30), rowing (30), LAX (15), ice hockey (10)…
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UConn basketball pulls in $7 million a year and football loses money. Kansas football and basketball will pull in $32 million a year. Most people I know would leave the best job in the world if the new one offered them a 450% increase. How long before Kansas/Kentucky just start poaching their coach and players every year because UConn can’t keep up with their $ ? Also big time football may split off and form their own post season basketball tournament. What happens if the don’t include the Big East (say it’s only for FBS conferences). and UConn is playing in a lesser division. For UConn is a no brainer. If they get the invite they 100% take it. For the Big 12 I think this is far more risky.
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