TKthunder2

NIL is 100% outside of the University and not subject to title IX. The big question is if football splits off from the AD and is no longer subject to title IX then what happens to women sports? Popular sports like volleyball and softball are likely fine, and those with male counterparts like track/tennis/golf/swimming are okay too, but if I were a coach of w soccer or rowing I’d be worried. I’d hope that the school would keep them all use this opportunity to expand and add men’s soccer or lacrosse but if they are paying out athletes directly it likely won’t go that way.

“Indoctrination” would be having a class on human sexuality and spending 90% on LGBTQ topics. A class specifically about LGBTQ isn’t indoctrination at all unless they required students to take it. You can argue, whether a class like this is needed but there are likely hundreds of classes that you could say the same things about. Back in the day I took history of rock and roll, children’s literature, and human sexuality as electives. They were entertaining and I did learn some new things which provided a more well rounded educational experience but weren’t necessarily essential to my degree plan.

If he refers to me then I don’t know how you got that. I point blank said the SEC/B1G would not get 9. I’d set the over/under at 7.5. That being said allowing a Liberty level school a permanent spot over their 2-3 loss team is what’s pissing them off. If they go full at large then that problem goes away.

This year was not like most years we all know that. Washington and Oregon, Texas and OU would be adding some losses to the SEC/B1G side. Remove those teams and you remove more losses. Arizona lost to USC/Wash but they won’t play going forward. It’s all going to balance out with the weaker ACC/Big12 #2 having better looking teams by record than the 3rd/4th place SEC/B1G team, rightly or wrongly.

It’ll never be nine if you’re giving out 3 other autobids. One of Big12/ACC will get 2 most years and you still have ND sitting out there. That’s why the SEC wants to get rid of them and go all at large.

Nope he’ll be the Corso replacement. Saban replaces him as the coach on the panel. Mcafee replaces him as the clown. Sometime in the near future you’ll have: Desmond, Reese, Saban, Mcafee, and Herbie with Mcafee putting on the mascot heads. Just have to figure out how to not piss everyone off by kicking Corso off the show before he’s ready to go.

The AAU also changed the formula to reduce ag subsidies as no longer dollar for dollars which hurt schools like Nebraska and Iowa State.

They did at one point. Not sure how long those are good for if they never use them. Either way, right now is NOT the time to rebrand. The Big 12 brand has outlasted the PAC12 and looks to be in a good spot to beat out the ACC too. Change the name to the Big16 and the casual fan isn’t going to know what that refers to for a few years. You lose the identity that was built around OU and UT which still gives some credence to them being a Power conference. On top of that, if the ACC falls apart, and the “Big 16” adds 4 more are you just going to rebrand again? The wisest moves is to stand pat, wait for the ACC drama to unfold and then pick up the best pieces (Pitt, Louisville, VA Tech, NCSU). Then might be the best time to rebrand as the Big Twenty or BigXX, or maybe even something without numbers.

Umm… https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/espn-dtc-launch-2025-disney-streaming/?zephr_sso_ott=V4epIB

Wish me luck, I’m going in.

They will just withOUT the Oregon State, Baylor, and Wake Forests of the world.

Washington State and Oregon St were available to play and are playing more MWC schools than agreed to because they were already scheduled as out of conference matchups. It would have been that difficult to arrange that if everyone involved was competent. These were the OOC game before the changes: K State v Arizona, Baylor v Utah Oregon St v SDSU, Washington St v SJSU (these could have been MW conference games) cancel and schedule each other it’s ain’t too difficult

We could leave the LHN at any time if we changed conferences. That had nothing to do with it, because the LHN still had another 7 years left on the contract. The only thing keeping us in the Big12 was the GOR. As much as we enjoy to shit on aggy, they absolutely would be the first choice in realignment for the Big Ten. Adding a Texas school that can draw 100k to a game and even more in eyeballs sandwiched between Houston, DFW, Austin, and San Antonio would be the equivalent of adding Rutgers and NYC’s 9 million tv sets for FOX and the BTN, but with better fan support. The main reason aggy is valuable is because the Big Ten/FOX want OhioSt/Michigan/Pedo/USC to play games and get more fan in the state of Texas and that’s the same reason the SEC wants to hold on to them as well just to keep them out.

Fun fact: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_Cornhuskers_men's_basketball The Cornhuskers have appeared in the NCAA tournament seven times with a combined record of 0–7. Nebraska is the only power conference school that has never won a tournament game.

You’re probably correct except the no Arabs part. I doubt they can move that many people out without significant international pressure. I see them likely just taking control and occupying Gaza like everyone has accused them of doing for years. We can argue whether they should morally or ethically but I think it’s the most likely action at this point for Israel no matter how one feels about it. Allowing foreign aid in unchecked has not helped anyone other than Hamas. If they can control Gaza and distribute that aid to those truly in need then maybe thing might actually get better for everyone even if it’s clearly not an idealistic solution.

Agree think it’s a smart strategy. Play around the P2 conferences, avoid playing your best games in head to head competition with their blockbusters and do your best to capitalize where you can. If Texas isn’t playing (like in Nov2nd) put up a Baylor/TCU game and see if you can get any of that audience to watch an in state match up. Do the same with Okie St, UCF, and any others you can.

Big 12 gets a pity mention in ESPN’s “must watch” cfb games of 2024. (The ACC games are weak also). https://athlonsports.com/college-football/espn-names-eight-cant-miss-college-football-games-for-2024-season-georgia-alabama-texas-michigan Miami at Florida (which coach is going to get fired first game) Texas at Michigan Georgia at Alabama Ohio St at Oregon Georgia at Texas Florida St at Notre Dame Michigan at Ohio St Utah at Oklahoma St

My only problem with that list is Brian Kelly has never won a single conference or national championship…so it’s weird to have him in that category.

I just was having a similar talk with one of my neighbors yesterday, but it was more along the lines of Bama is a top ten job but maybe not a top five job due to NIL, smaller state population, lack of nearby metro areas, and increased competition. Program success doesn’t necessarily correspond to job desirability, for example Clemson has been a top 10 program for a decade but is clearly not a top ten job. However, to say that they are not a great program or not a destination job is just asinine. Bama could turn into 2000-2020 Tennessee for the next 20 years and they’d still likely be a top ten job.

You’d never make it as a copy editor good sir. (But neither would I)

If you pass out in negative 30 you’d been dead in far less than 10 hours.

Cinderella can get some attention when they make a deep run from casual fans but the opening round of 64 and round of 32 games are trash for broadcasters/advertisers outside of the final minutes if it’s close. Even the slightly elevated ratings that Cinderella gets when on a great run, doesn’t offset the potential revenue loss for all the rest of the blow out games. There is a reason the 8/9 games are on CBS while the 16/1 games are on Tru TV. I’m going to go try and find the article about this where I saw the analysis but I’m having no luck at the moment in between work calls.

Point me to the thread, happy to join in the talk but I think in the basketball tournament is applicable in the realignment thread, we commonly talk about the Big 12 adding Gonzaga in here… Again, to reiterate, I love the current tournament setup, but the data shows it’s not as profitable as a P4/5 only tournaments see recent changes to NIT and the new FOX tournament (https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2023/09/11/college-basketball-las-vegas-fox-postseason-tournament-replacing-nit.aspx) IIRC only about 1/3rd of the tournament revenue goes to the men’s DI basketball programs, much more of it goes to pay for non revenue sports and championships for DII and DIII. If you exclude all except the P4, G5, Big East (or whatever combo they decide) and remove it from under the NCAA, while the overall tournament may be less profitable, the shares of profit going to the schools would increase since they would keep more of the money (100% of $500mil > 30% of $1bil). Again, I’m not advocating for this change, but logically see this as the next step. Once major fb realignment is settled and the CFP has been renegotiated, I can easily imagine the SEC/B1G/B12/ACC looking deciding a bigger split should be in the works. The NCAA itself has already laid out a plan for larger schools to pay players and breakaway from the fringe DI schools that are barely funding their athletic departments. I think the P4 schools see the tournament as a money maker and great advertising that they can run. An easy miscount solution is breakaway from the NCAA and run it themselves and allow any conference that wants to participate with them to do so with an entry fee of (making up a number here) $20 million a year. Each round of participation gets the conference a return of $8 million. Meaning you either need 3 bids to the tournament to not lose money without winning a game, or a single bid and 2 wins. Something like that would make some of the fringe one bid league drop out and allow more participation from P4 teams on the bubble.

The problem is that nobody watches. People talk about loving Cinderella but nobody watches those games until the last minutes if it’s close and despite those upsets being memorable moments, they are NOT profitable. Low ranked schools lead to low viewership. When you had FAU, UConn, and San Diego State in the final four, nobody watched and it was the lowest rated final four in many years. Having a only P5 teams would increase the total watch time for the early round games and would purposefully exclude the lesser brands from their bigger games that attract bigger audiences. Writers and casual fans love to romanticize Cinderella, but most real fans want to watch Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Duke, UCLA, Indiana, Ohio St, Florida, LSU, Arizona, Texas, and so on…in the S16/E8/F4 and that is what sells ads which is what drives the market rate for the entire tournament. It’s not a popular idea, but it’s factual. The P5 schools don’t want to be upset/embarrassed by the Ivy League or MAAC teams, and to rub salt in the wound, most of the times when that happens it tanks the ratings as well which takes even more money out of the pocket of the P5. While the loss of big brackets and Cinderella will likely hurt in the short terms, but in the long term it would be more profitable. You can argue that this shouldn’t be about profitability, but then you likely haven’t been paying attention to the last 30 years.