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We agree on 90% I just think enforcement is the issue. FSU owns the stadium and can physically broadcast their games independently. They don’t HAVE to sue to get them back because they are them. Role play this out. FSU leaves the ACC and sets up a full independent schedule for 2025. Announces all game will be streaming PPV on FSU.edu including their home game against Alabama. The ACC still holds their GOR and ESPN shows up to broadcast the game but FSU doesn’t let them into the stadium. Someone is going to have to sue someone else because ESPN/ACC can waive a piece of paper around all they want but that doesn’t get their cameras into the stadium. That will take some sort of law enforcement with a court order.
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Almost tried to scan the QR code to see if it worked, but then realized what would happen if it did and decided against it.
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Yes the premise here was that FSU goes independent and broadcasts their own events without permission. Agree ESPN/FOX won’t want to get involved.
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Maybe they should add Rice to the conference?
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I know you disagree (we’ve had this talk before I’m fairly certain) but I still have yet to see any evidence of a GOR being enforced on a government entity. That the major difference here. ESPN/FOX would not be involved. The ACC would have to sue FSU directly and I don’t think that would have a favorable outcome. Plus even if it did it would cost money and the state could theoretically pass a law voiding unfavorable government contracts which is unique versus a standard GOR on an individual or private company. Courts have also ruled certain GORs invalid where people signed away their lifetime of rights for $1. I’m no media rights expert here but while I agree that it will cost many MANY dollars to lawyers, I do not think this is a cut and dry as say Taylor Swift’s GOR (which she was still able to get out of by re-recording her music). FSU seems to have a plan, I’m curious to see the outcome.
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I loved this one… “It's gotta make culture building damn near impossible. How do you trust a guy in the locker room who only came to your school because of money?” I’m sure those random Tennessee and New Jersey recruits came for the majesty of College Station. -
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I’m not disagreeing with you, however… Afghanistan is 250k+ square miles with a population just under 40 million. Iraq is nearly 170k square miles with a population of more than 43 million. Gaza is 141 square miles with a population of just over 2 million. This isn’t exactly an Apples to Apples comparison. Logistically Israel could (again not claiming they should) check each and every civilian and methodically go building by building/house by house and root out every terrorist/hide out/tunnel. It would be bloody and costly in a myriad of ways but it’s doable as the IDF now has nearly half a million active troops and advanced satellite resources and a stranglehold on their regional communication networks.
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They also added Sacred Heart as well. https://maacsports.com/news/2023/10/22/baseball-maac-welcomes-merrimack-college-and-sacred-heart-university-as-newest-full-members.aspx This put the NEC in a real bind as they’ll be down to 7 and already have 2 members (Stonehill and LeMoyne) transitioning up from DII offsetting their loss of St Francis who dropped all sports and Mount St Mary’s who also went to the MAAC. They need a waiver from the NCAA and will have to beg some less than enthusiastic DII to move up or grab full independent Chicago State out West in order to survive. I have my eye on New Haven as the most likely call up with Bentley as the next best option.
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Looks I’m generally pro-density. My neighborhood has some duplex and apartments nearby and other than waiting 20 minutes for a school to load/unload at the apartment it doesn’t hurt my family or neighbors. That being said, I also don’t fully agree that everyone should be able to live Central because they want to. After I graduated, I had to move out to the suburbs and commute nearly an hour twice a day in order to find something affordable. After living there for a decade and saving up the wife and I were eventually able to move within the city but still not what anyone would consider Central Austin. Even if you build high density housing, most of those will just be bought up by investors and the people they were designed to help will quickly be priced out. While we can want a city full of mixed housing that ship has likely sailed. Texas Jeff’s suggestions are a good start. Finding specific areas of opportunity is really where the city’s focus should be along with providing better access to/around the Central corridor. The train was supposed to be the solution (not a great one but it would have helped) but absent some miracle turnaround that doesn’t seem to be in the cards.
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Makes sense in a weird way. 1. Go independent 2. Broadcast your own games online (no one else will risk it because…) 3. Get sued by the ACC due to the GOR 4. Legally nullify the GOR in court or settle out of court (and show Clemson/UNC/UVA the way out as well) and confirm once and for all whether you own your TV rights or not. 5. Join the SEC or Big Ten and hopefully break even financially prior to 2036. Short term they’ll lose some money but depending on the settlement amount they likely come out ahead than staying in the ACC for another 12 years. If this was a 5 year problem this would be dumb, but with over a decade left on their TV deal this isn’t a horrible plan.
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No politics at work. Even when you think you’re doing the right thing it backfires. For example, a company I know of made a statement about George Floyd expressing sympathy and solidarity with his family and the protest. While I would doubt it made a huge difference for most, for some employees it was seen as a great expression from their employer that they were not heartless capitalist and realized there is more to life than work. The problem occurred later when the gay nightclub was attacked (apologies if I’m recalling events slightly out of order) and they LGBT groups at the company wanted a similar statement which eventually was released. So on and so on with each following event. Now you have the Israel/Hamas war and while it’s easy to condemn terrorism, how do they respond to Palestinians asking for a similar statement about the innocent civilians being killed by the IDF? They painted themselves into a corner. As always, the only winning move was not to play. You might have taken a small PR/morale hit at the time but in the long term silence is golden. No politics at work.
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Houston won something. We mostly let winners slide as a society.
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While no official declaration, I would also assume they are planning on pushing the citizenry further South and making most of Northern Gaza part of a large DMZ as well.
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I’ve always appreciated all the ins and outs of this program. As someone who regularly criticizes most things in this city you have to give credit where it’s due. More of this please, fewer hotels.
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Globetrotters = Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Texas, and currently Georgia (this list isn’t fully set in stone) these school can pull 3 million viewers playing Rice, UNLV, WKU, and the like even in an uncompetitive game. The next level is still really good (some would argue that it’s all the same tier) but the main difference here is that they don’t get the benefit of the doubt when playing the little sisters of the poor so they need someone with a pulse to pull 3 million: Oklahoma, Penn State, USC, LSU, Florida State, Clemson, and Florida. You can do this for each level down, as we drop down to the next tier you need a better opponent to hit 3 million+. Obviously this compounds when these top tier teams play each other, even more so when ranked, and same applies to lower tier teams as well when ranked they can move up or down this tier system based on rankings and also what game are available week to week. Big exception to this is when something like Deion and Colorado come along and break all the rules.
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Anything will be better than buying old hotels. Still one of the only benefit of the train was that it would connect cheap city owned land to the city center which could be developed for high density/affordable housing. But I bet they’ll even fuck that up.
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So prior to this year ESPN had the Big Ten, Big 12, PAC12, and ACC on ABC while they could only put the SEC on ESPN due to their CBS exclusive OTA deal. In 2024 they lose all PAC inventory and they lost all Big Ten inventory this year. While they will be supplementing those loses with the SEC on ABC now that also pulls what was a staple of ESPN on Saturday and leaves a big hole on ESPN that will have to be filled and that will be filled by the Big 12 which is why they added more games. For FOX, they got the Big Ten to add Oregon and Washington, but unless they break the exclusive deal with CBS or NBC they can’t add any more games to FOX OTA. It benefits the BTN (which FOX owns) and FS1 but they’ll have to wheel and deal to get exceptions or else the Big 12 will be the biggest beneficiaries.
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Once the SEC can be on ABC the Big 12 won’t be on there nearly as much, but with UT leaving that FOX spot would have been a likely landing spot for a game like that.
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Starting 2024 the Big Ten has exclusive time slots on FOX at noon, CBS afternoon, and NBC prime. All other games will be on BTN, FS1, or Peacock. The SEC and ACC (minus 1 ACC game a week now on the CW) are full ABC/ESPN with an agreement that ABC afternoon slot will be reserved for the SEC (but not exclusive meaning they could have another game on ESPN at the same time). The Big 12 is split, however as the Big Ten has an exclusive slot with CBS in that afternoon slot that basically means the Big 12 will own that afternoon window with FOX save for the odd/occasional MWC game. While it’s hard to predict exactly how the inventory situation will flush out. This seems most likely. Noon: FOX=B1G, ABC=B12/ACC, ESPN=SEC Afternoon: CBS=B1G, ABC=SEC, FOX=B12, ESPN=ACC, NBC=ND Prime: NBC=B1G, ABC=SEC, FOX(after MLB)=B12 (maybe B1G if they can work out a deal with NBC to break the exclusive window), ESPN=SEC Late: ESPN=B12, FS1=B1G The Big win here for the Big 12 is FOX. With FOX being locked out of the SEC/ACC and not bidding on the PAC12 and with the Big Ten granting exclusive over the air broadcasting windows to CBS/NBC to get them to play ball the remaining Big 12 programs are going to get a lot air time in that afternoon FOX slot. True it will be opposite of the SEC and Big Ten games of the week plus Notre Dame but that more than the ACC has going for it. Both will have plenty of games on ESPN2/ESPN+ but the Big 12 could theoretically have 3 games OTA while the ACC at most could only have 2 (not including ND home games) which is why I think the Big 12 will be (or already is) clearly the #3 conference.
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Yep it looks like the best option for all involved. If you assume FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, UVA, and Notre Dame all get poached then you’d have a real easy scenario for the ACC/Big12 to functionally merge under an umbrella while remaining separate conferences that negotiate media deals together and simplify travel and scheduling with the outliers in their memberships (UCF, WVU, Cincy / SMU, Cal, Stanford) New ACC: UCF, USF, GT, NCSU, Duke, WF, Memphis, VT, Pitt, WVU, Cincy, Louisville, Syracuse, UConn, BC, and maybe Temple or Tulane New Big 12: ISU, KU, KSU, OSU, UH, BU, SMU, TCU, Tech, CU, Utah, BYU, AZ, ASU, Cal, Stanford
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Disagree completely. The only sacred cows in basketball are Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Kansas, UCLA, Indiana, and maybe now UConn. The rest don’t move the needle enough to matter they can play in the non football/small football league with the Big East/A10/WCC/Ivy. The only way a “swap” works is if they merge the Big 12 with the remaining ACC. https://sports.yahoo.com/inside-oregon-and-washingtons-jump-to-the-big-ten--it-was-both-of-us-or-none-of-us-141725222.html Yahoo story from Ross Dellenger about UO/UW move to Big Ten. Notes that the Big Ten evaluated: Notre Dame, North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State, Pitt, Kansas, Cal, Stanford, Arizona, Virginia and, of course, Oregon and Washington for membership.
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It was always in Austin because our fans were used to going to that game but honestly as a season ticket holder it was a pain in the ass. But let’s not act like the Big 12 was doing Texas a favor here, no other school wanted Texas coming to town to play them in their half empty stadium on that weekend when all the students were gone. They all wanted their Texas home game on a weekend where they would have a FULL stadium otherwise they were letting lot of money walk out the door.
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