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TKthunder2

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  1. Conference agreements do not equal TV deal. Conferences have bylaws that prevent people from leaving without notice and may also have exit fees. Now they can still leave, but they will pay a penalty if they don’t abide by their conference agreements. The TV deal was a huge $$ number. That will not be a blocker for anyone after this season, but there are others thing that could still prevent movement.
  2. 4,150 fans. UT paid around $300k to reimburse the fans. Houston fucked their relationship with Texas over $300k.
  3. As bad as the UH addition was, UCF is worse. I think the Big 12 would look far better if they had gone with Memphis over UCF. UH was in a power conference once upon a time, same goes for Cincy who won some basketball titles back in the day as well. BYU is basically the closest you could get without being in the club. And then there is UCF. Never been in the club. Didn’t join D1 until 1985. Had 1 good year of football but brings little else to the table. They are basically Boise State in a better market. Memphis (who also was never in the club either) has final four basketball success and a longer history of football, just without that one undefeated season. Let me ask it another way. If new school #12 becomes a permanent cellar dweller in football, who would be the best fit. UCF on an island next to nobody, or Memphis far closer to the geographic center of the conference that has sports other than football on its resume?
  4. It’s signaling that they WILL take 2. If they take 2 now, likely won’t be room for everyone in the PAC. Hoping that the scarcity of spots to get people to get off the fence. I doubt they add 2 non P5 schools, but it’s a good scare tactic to a school like Arizona.
  5. He just quit football again, per twitter
  6. Here’s a professor on CNN briefly discussing the 20% of men figure.
  7. Real original Cincinnati…
  8. lol at thinking they have fans, much less fans that travel.
  9. It doesn’t have most of the ones I see in NW Austin but I agree South wins by a mile.
  10. Take it up with the NYT, but if a fan base is national (like ND) this graphic isn’t going to capture that. It’s an intensity heat map so single schools that dominate their home state look more attractive than schools in a competitive state with a disbursed fan base. Knowing nothing about college sports most would conclude that Michigan looks weaker than Wisconsin or that New Mexico is better than Texas Tech just based on this map (which we know is absurd).
  11. 1. Third party vendor support. What do you want to use, who has it? 2. ACH - what are the fees what type can they do, collections, tax payments, batch (for payroll) 3. Positive Pay - if you’re a small business still writing real checks, I would make sure your bank has a positive pay solution to avoid get caught up in check fraud. These would be the three biggest things I’d look for outside of general fees/balance requirements.
  12. According to 538 Oregon’s TV viewership was only behind ND, FSU, and Clemson for schools not in the Power2. Oregon is very decisive, but the facts are the facts.
  13. Add in that only 2 conference games (omitting USCvUCLA) were top 5 games of the week per the ratings last year (UO/UW, and Utah/UCLA) and that with most of their top games were on FOX or ESPN late which artificially boosted their numbers and you can see the issue. Take those advantages and the LA schools/market away and you can see why networks don’t want to pay for their tier 2 or tier 3 games.
  14. That would get you 3 late OOC games and 3 conferences games between those 3 schools. To get full weekly coverage you need 6 additional conference games against Central Time Zone opponents. That would be 2 additional games per team. That would put them 4 late night home games for each CU/AZ/BYU which is likely too big of an obligation to cover a full season worth of late night games. 4 Mountain/Pacific Time Zone teams gets you closer (4 OOC games, 6 games between those 4 schools) where you’d only need a few more and coverage might be feasible, but 5 teams is really the sweet spot where no Mtn/Pac TZ school would have more than 3 late night games (some even only 2) and you could mix in a few CTZ teams as late night opponents a couple of times a year to help with coverage/interest as well.
  15. Creative = The CW or Ion Forward Thinking = Apple
  16. You know Texas is a big state right? No one in Austin works for the minimum wage but plenty of people outside of the Texas triangle still do. The State of Texas could raise the minimum wage by $5/hr and it wouldn’t effect Austin in any noticeable way.
  17. That CBS article I posted above seemed to indicate that it was July1/June30 for the PAC 12 (which makes sense as it aligns with the athletic calendar).
  18. This is 100% incorrect. Conference bylaws around exit fees and notice requirements have nothing to do the the GOR. Organizational bylaws are 100% enforceable in court. If you cannot agree in this extremely simple point then there is no point in continuing this discussion.
  19. According to CBS USC/UCLA had to give 2 years notice to avoid penalties https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-college-sports-begins-its-latest-seismic-shakeup/ Thursday was the last day for USC and UCLA to inform the Pac-12 of their plans to depart without likely incurring additional financial penalties, sources told Norlander.
  20. The Big 12 GOR ran concurrently with the TV deal through the 24-25 athletic year and had no exit fees or other way out. Texas and Oklahoma granted the Big 12 it’s TV right for the specific timeline which they in turned sold to ESPN/FOX who knew they’d have all 10 schools for the duration of the agreement. The Big 12 bylaws were for 99 years and had an exit fee. This did not prevent anyone from leaving but set rules on how long they had to provide notice and what monetary penalties they would owe in order to leave. These are separate agreements but often get talked about as a single issue.
  21. Part of being in the conference is sharing your rights as part of the collective. The conference would vote on a deal for the 24-25 year and you’d be included in that decision for that year (just not long term) unless they allowed for individual disbursement like the Big 12 has done for tier 3 historically (LHN/PPV).
  22. The Big 12 bylaws were for 99 years. The Big 12 TV deal and GOR was only thru 2024-25. The exit fee would still apply even if the GOR had expired. I’m now going to waste a day trying to read PAC conference rules…
  23. That’s the TV deal/GOR only. The conference exit requirements/fees are a different story.
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