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TKthunder2

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  1. July 1st was the date they needed to invite new members or have exiting members submit notice. Most conferences require at least 1 years notice. That being said it’s not hard deadline like others have said. Colorado could submit its exit request July 15th and they would just be stuck in the PAC12 for the 24-25 year since they missed the July 1st exit. That obviously could be negotiated but it might cost them some $. Like others have said, not having a deal before July is not a good look. They could continue negotiating their TV deal for months but then Colorado would be required to accept whatever deal is presented for the 24-25 year since they have no other options. All PAC12 schools could be stuck in the conference for a year making only $20 million (and giving $5mil of that back to Comcast) from their streaming only deal with Apple. They’d all be rightfully upset but that’s the possibility they are signing up for by giving the conference extension after extension and defacto locking themselves down for a year with unknown $ by going past July 1 without a TV deal.
  2. Again, 100 times also they are super close to each other (90ish miles like Texas and Baylor) and have played each other in every sport for a long long time. If the Big 12 did something similar and protected the Iowa State/K State game most of the country would have a similar wtf reaction.
  3. People keep saying “should” but like the PAC12 TV deal, it hasn’t happened yet. If negotiating this token carrot into the conference helps put the death blow on the PAC12 the Big12 would be foolish to let this opportunity slip away.
  4. Iowa has played Wisconsin and Minnesota over 100 times each. Penn State hasn’t played anyone in the Big Ten even 50 times. They also are really trying to force the Nebraska/Iowa game to be a thing.
  5. The Big 12 can write out a new bylaw effective July 1, 2024 (after UT/OU leave) that lowers their exit fees and reduces the transition timeline for any members that leave for the SEC/B1G. This would remove a lot of hesitation for Colorado or any P12 school that believes they’ll get an invite from the Big Ten. Now they won’t be able to break the GOR but if they can make an effort to lower their concerns and make the conference more attractive to P12/ACC school who think they are better than they are.
  6. When did Kentucky join the conference? edit: also 9 conference games with 18 teams gives you a good 1-8-8 setup. Rivals: UW/UO, AZ/ASU, BYU/UU, CU/Tech, TCU/BU, UCF/UH, ISU/OkSU, KU/KSU, WVU/Cincy Everyone plays half the conference and their rival each year.
  7. Lots of reasons to make fun of Florida, scheduling is not one of them.
  8. I could see them shrinking the autobids to the top 4 conference champs which makes the byes very clean/important. It opens 2 additional spots for SEC/B1G teams that previously went to the G5/P12 and keeps the ND no bye as an independent agreement in place. This likely gets the SEC/B1G 3 bids each annually which was the goal. I’m not so sure you’ll see a push for 16 after 2 years but it’s not impossible. Going to 16 too quick will dilute the product. No one is going to pay substantially more for those 16v1 games than they currently are now with 12. Assume the 12 team playoff is worth $600 million and a 16 is worth $700 million. With 12 each game is worth on average $50 million, with 16 that drops to less than $44 million and while yes you’ve increased the size of the pie, you’ve also made the road more difficult for your conference champion who has already played an extra game over a team like ND or a 3rd place Ohio State or Tennessee. If both teams playing in the SECCG or B1GCCG are ranked in the top 6 and you know that they both be playing in round 1 of the playoffs in two weeks, it lowers the stakes somewhat which will hurt viewership, but if it’s for a bye…we’ll now have national attention and makes that game have more meaning and no one will rest their starters.
  9. I lived in Richardson for years and worked in academia circles for nearly a decade. My wife took some courses there but other than that no other connections. Yes, tangent from the thread, I’ll drop it.
  10. Pretty much the only one near UTD’s academic profile is UH (last I checked) so I’m just really going to talk about UH here as discussing Tech and Texas State isn’t worth the effort. UH is a very generalized institution trying to be a big state university (despite just being a city). UH offers nearly 300 degrees while UTD (being locally and system focused) is more specialized offering less than 150. If you specifically exclude UH’s bonus point for Law/Med/etc, to try and get a true apples to apples/head to head comparison UTD is better in the vast majority of categories. UTD’s MBA ties with Rice in the rankings ahead of aggy and SMU and only behind UT Austin in this state. UTD engineering is 4th behind UT Austin, Rice, and aggy. UTD has other great targeted programs like Audiology that it is also nationally known for. UH’s best programs are Hospitality, Entrepreneurship, Social Work, and Pharmacy. While their is nothing wrong with those learning paths, I think anyone trying to truly decide which school is academically superior has a pretty open and shut case. UH can offer the more traditional big time-ish college experience compared to UTD, but UTD is a far better academic institution albeit in a more targeted capacity (which is in line with the goals of the UT system). This is also why it’s not an honest statement to claim UTD of going after Texas and aggy rejects. People going to UTD aren’t generally the same applicants looking for the big time college experience. Those go to Tech, UH or out of state to OU, Arkansas, LSU, or Ole Miss if they can’t get it. UTD applicants are most likely looking for the best academic public school option they can find, which doesn’t line up with these same type of students that were being discussed in the previous comment, which is why it’s an insult to them to lump them in with those universities trying to be like UT/aggy. That is not what UTD is doing, it’s trying to be like UC Santa Cruz not UCLA.
  11. “may”? and none of that contradicts with the above. UTD is very strong academically and yes has a large commuter contingent because it sits in the heart of Dallas perfectly sandwiched between the City of Dallas and Plano and the rest of the vast Northern suburban sprawl. But to say they are filling their school with those who could not get into aggy is absolutely incorrect. Most could go to multiple P5 football schools but chose to stay at a local school with great academics for a myriad of reasons. UTD is a great success story for the UT system, and anyone trying to insinuate otherwise because they lack DI basketball (by choice, because they absolutely could if they wanted to) or a large commuter base doesn’t understand what they are trying to do in Richardson.
  12. You’re insulting UTD putting them in the same category with those others you listed.
  13. The security doesn’t open until 330am so not before then. Check how many early departures there are that day but I’d guess if you get there 1 hour before you’d be fine.
  14. The SEC is trying to force Kentucky and Mizzou as rivals for the cocks.
  15. For SMU absolutely. For the PAC12, no. SMU isn’t worth $30mil/yr so they would likely dilute their conference payout. Even in the most optimistic of circumstances where somehow SMU’s value is enough to cover their own cost, they do nothing for the remaining 10 teams. Cal, Washington, and Oregon don’t want to play them if they get nothing in return. At 10 teams the PAC12 can play round robin and face everyone every year. At 12 teams there is a chance you are swapping out Oregon and Washington for SMU and SDSU, and no one would willingly make that deal without getting something in return. Again, if they drop to 9 or 8 members then survival rules require expansion, but as is it’s unlikely to happen.
  16. What? That’s not correct. They play basketball in the Big West.
  17. The Big 12 is not interested in SDSU period. They’d rather take UConn if they need an extra to balance out the numbers it seems. Without adding a P5 team, zero additions make sense right now. UConn or Gonzaga for basketball might make sense towards the end of the TV contract but now they don’t. PAC12 is not expanding unless TV is willing to pay more. They don’t want to play SDSU or SMU so unless those bring added value increasing the pie for the existing P10, they will not expand. If they lose 1 team (like Colorado) then SDSU will get the invite, but not before.
  18. Think you got some wires crossed no way we won’t play aggy in 2025…
  19. Then former Mayor Adler will start a non profit that the city will fund in order to get homeless into “cooling shelters”. Once he gets the funding they’ll buy some hotels that sit vacant for the next 10 years and then sell them to the city for 3x the price.
  20. It was a generous division on my part (mostly because the math was easy) but keeping with the theme you could add a few borderline teams like Washington, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan State to round out the numbers. If you divide by 4 to have big, medium large, medium small, small, you’d have around 17 in each category which would pretty much lines up with your list for the big names.
  21. If you take the new 69 P5 schools and divided them in 3rds, you have 23 big names, 23 medium names, and 23 small names. BYU and WVU would not be classified as big names. If you are looking at all of DI then sure, but we’re not talking about basketball, we’re talking about big time football. I agree the Big 12 will be fine, no need to exaggerate…
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