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Wow, that’s dark. If they can all just leave the PAC12 and let it, as an entity, default that would be a crazy outcome…meanwhile Colorado is still look for way to pay Coach Prime.
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“We don’t want to play you anymore” pretty much means “we want to get away from you” in my book. Texas made a choice that we’d rather play Arkansas/aggy, over Tech/Baylor, and TCU (who we’ve already ditched once before). We’re mostly indifferent to West Virginia, Okie St, K State, Kansas, and Iowa St in the Big 12 as we are with South Carolina, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Mizzou, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt. Besides the direction the planes fly, there is very little difference between these opponents for us except that with the Big 12 we played all 5 of these every year and in the SEC we’ll only play 3 a year which means we’ll have more room for Tier One opponents. Big time Tier One opponents: the SEC has many and the Big12 has zero. We can talk about the above all day long but in reality that just trying to find every excuse to not discuss the elephant in the room. The increase in ticket sales and TV viewership will be driven by these games. Every year we’ll have at least 3 games from some combo of Alabama/Florida/Tennessee or Georgia/LSU/Auburn. There is really nothing to discuss, this is a great move for Texas in pretty much every metric. Omitting the RRSO Texas went from (at best) 3 games against local “rivals” and 5 games we didn’t care much about (unless they were ranked) in the Big 12, to 2 local “rivals”, 3 Tier One opponents, and only 3 games we don’t care much about. So yeah, we left to get away from you.
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Look, if after UT/OU left, had the Big 12 been raided by the PAC12/ACC leaving behind Baylor, K State and Iowa St; I doubt the greater college football world would have cared all that deeply. Sounds shitty but its true, just like no one around here would care if Washington St/Oregon St or Wake Forest get effectively relegated to G5 status. There was no wave of apathy around college football when the SWC/BigEastfb disbanded and 4 fb schools were relegated out of the power conference club. More people watched, more people tuned in. This is not a debate, these are facts. Three things drive college football: rivalries, brands and ranked vs ranked matchups. Ranking aren’t dependable and can’t be ‘reliably’ manufactured so that leaves brands and rivalries. Outside of Texas/OU and Bedlam neither has any great rivals in the Big 12. Other than those two games there was not a weekend people would circle in their calendar and the networks would be fighting over broadcast rights. Texas gains 2 rivalry games by moving to the SEC, Oklahoma loses 1, net positive. Then we get to brands and that is where the SEC move really shines. UT/OU keep the RRSO and both gain a minimum of two games with Tier One opponents (at least one home and one away) each year. So when we are looking at value the Big 12 provided only 2 games annually for Texas/OU (RRSO+Bedlam) plus whatever ranked vs ranked that they’d luck into; while the SEC provides 7 games of value (RRSO+UT/aggy+UT/Arkansas+2 other T1 games for OU+2 other T1 games for UT) plus any ranked vs ranked matchups that pop up. Oklahoma went from 2 games of value each year to 3 even after losing Bedlam. Texas went from 1 game of value to 5 because they didn’t lose anything the media or general fans valued by leaving the Big12 and gained more by joining the SEC.
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FIFY
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I just love how even in your high and mighty egalitarian model…you still left out Wake Forest.
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The latest get your ass back in the office story: AT&T
TKthunder2 replied to Buzzrock's topic in Daily Texan
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Can someone explain this to me? They don’t want to play in prime time because of “health, recovery and campus logistics”? How does playing a few hours later in the day a big deal? They sound like whiny bitches.
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The SEC took Mizzou just to balance out the numbers. They were expanding with aggy and wanted a 14th. The only options at the time were Mizzou or West Virginia, and Mizzou was the bigger state which helped with the SECN. I wouldn’t read much more into it than that. The SEC did the same with South Carolina once they knew they’d be adding Arkansas and had struck out getting any Texas schools. Both of these tagalong schools are pretty much just trying to stay out of the bottom quarter of the new conference as they are 2 of the 4 SEC team without a national title claims (Vandy/MSU).
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I didn’t make it. Just saw it on the late kick and took a capture. I think this is just Tier One and Tier Two TV payout. So no Tier Three, bowl/CFP/NCAA payouts, conference licensing other revenue.
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This is contains the new deals for the Big Ten and Big 12. This does not yet include the PAC12’s new deal or the SEC’s renegotiation from adding UT/OU and a 9th conference game.
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The latest get your ass back in the office story: AT&T
TKthunder2 replied to Buzzrock's topic in Daily Texan
These are hitting close to home. Moved into tech management during COVID after being a senior engineer for years on one solution but then they assigned me to a different solution based out of Nebraska. So yeah, don’t know the solution very in depth and manage remotely as well. But all the metrics and reviews all say my team (half of which I’ve hired directly) is fucking good so who the fuck knows. -
The latest get your ass back in the office story: AT&T
TKthunder2 replied to Buzzrock's topic in Daily Texan
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Super Mario Bros. Staring Chris Pratt and Anya Taylor-Joy
TKthunder2 replied to Viper's topic in Movies and TV
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I was not joking. I think our society is in a horrible shape because people can’t talk to each other unless you are on the same side. I think sensible gun reform is needed in this country and I think posts and comments like this hurt rather than help as people are just playing to their base and alienating anyone who remotely disagrees with them. 12 year old shot someone, this is already illegal in multiple ways, and this is what is being sensationalized. If we want to have a rational conversation about why a 20 year old had a AR15 that is a valid but ultimately different conversation. This is coming from someone who has voted for 3 different political parties in the last 3 presidential elections and has various policy options that don’t conform to a single political party. Call me as dumbass and vilify a reasonable/rational opinion all you want as that’s what both sides seem to do with divisive issues as it’s easier to play to your base than to have a dialogue that challenges your beliefs and policy preferences. This is why I don’t go to the CR and why I’m just going to ignore this thread from here on out.
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You’re right, the “that’s a blasting” in the title is totally not sarcastic commentary on gun safety laws. Which law was weak here that we should strengthen? The laws already forbid just about everything that occurred here. By by highlighting this as a gun violence issue in the same vain as a mass shooting and being tongue and cheek/flippant many of you are alienating those in the middle that might be will to actually listen to your arguments and support reform in exchange for trying to irritate or ignore the other side. Trying to win feel good points no matter the cost is exactly how we end up with stupid people representing us in an ineffective government.
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You should really drop it, the facts are not in your side. Nebraska was one of the only blueblood schools interested in going it alone and changing conferences at the time. Yes they’ve gone severely downhill, but it’s revisionist history at best to frame their additions as anything less than one of the best realignment moves in the BCS era at the time. Even now with Nebraska as shitty as they have been they are still have a following and are clearly in the top half of the B1G, in that second tier with Wisconsin and Michigan State. UCLA is a blueblood basketball school that is also an amazing academic institution in a great media and recruiting market with good enough football appeal to get 6th best ratings of their expansion candidates (ND, Clemson, Oregon, USC, Florida St, UCLA). It doesn’t really matter what your thoughts on the matter are, but FOX/CBS/NBC all agreed that they/USC and the total ownership of the 2nd biggest media market in the nation was worth the price. If the PAC12 had retained UCLA and added SDSU it absolutely could have lowered the total valuation of the Big Ten’s TV deal since they’d have a divided market where they could be in direct competition with each other splitting the total viewership. Nothing new since the report about 7 ACC schools trying to dissolve their conference and/or break their GOR.
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Games will be streamed but they will be streamed on ESPN/FOX or a streaming service like Amazon Prime Video still. The SEC or Big Ten isn’t likely to launch their own service like the PAC12 attempted. And don’t discount old/poor people still watching OTA (that’s where the Big Ten was really smart in prioritizing OTA content). The SEC’s contract is about to be renegotiated with UT/OU joining and going to 9 conference games. The 7 don’t need invites to the SEC/B1G, simply getting invited to the Big12 will get them paid. ESPN (even without FOX chipping in) will pay the ACC teams more in the Big 12 than they would make staying in ACC. This is why I suspect ESPN will give over more money now to keep its ACC inventory from FOX in exchange for 9 conference games and better OOC matchups (organized by ESPN against the SEC/B12).
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I don’t normally call out posts, but other than ND as #1, UNC is clearly #2 if all expansion candidates. FSU is #3. Football means a ton and UNC is a B-/C+ in that category, but they are basically an A in every other category. They are a school that the both sets of presidents (who vote on expansion) would vote for even if it cost them a little money in the short term. The Big 12, outside of a strange merger situation with UNC and all their pals, has basically no realistic chance of picking them up as a free agent expansion candidate. The B1G/SEC are just offering giant fat stacks of cash that the Big12 has no chance at matching. (Also if the Big 12 adds Wake Forest then they are dumb as shit)
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I think we’re about to be past the point of arguing about professionalism. The players are about to get paid whether we like it or not and that will have direct consequences. You can’t have your cake and eat it too in this scenario, But you keep going back to what the PEOPLE want, which only matters if you giving the people what they want turns into $$$, which it is not as the mid majors are depressing the value not raising it if you look at the dollars directly. Even then, even most purists would agree that Division I is way too big and is ripe for division. A DII team can beat a DI team (remember) but that doesn’t mean we let DII teams into the DI tournament. Getting the number of eligible teams down to around 200 would be a major improvement to the 360 some odd teams in there now. The P5 and the next two best fb conferences MWC/American, plus basketball private school conferences Big East/WCC were the only conferences to receive multiple bids. The other 23 conferences only got a single bid and 18 of those lost in the first round. There has to be room for improvement here as those 18 games are near worthless, and even the 5 upsets are only watched in the last 10 minutes (which again doesn’t generate much money). Just limiting the tournament to FBS+Big East/WCC would keep every seed from 1-11 and cut the bottom 20 of 22. Cutout the dumb first four games at you’d have 16 additional seeds to put into the field of 64. That could easily be filled by quality teams many with 20+ wins that just miss the cut and go to the NIT (UNC, Okie St, Oregon, Clemson). Indiana/UNC would be a highly watched 4/12 game while Indiana/Drake was not. And yes this will cut out some of the ‘magic’ it won’t all go away. UNT who won the NIT would have likely been a 14 seeds under this model and still could have provided a worthwhile midmajor upset like FAU did this year.
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Correct on gamblers, but for casual fans you’re falling into the romanticism trap. The numbers prove this every year. The final minutes of the upset get big ratings but that’s a very short window of time. In aggregate the 8/9 game is far better for the broadcasters/advertisers because more people watch those. 25 million people watching the last 10 minutes of a 14/3 upset does not make as much money as 10 million people watching 2 hours of the 8/9 game. People making brackets is fun and I’ll agree that draws in some additional casual interest, but unless they are watching all the games (stats prove otherwise) that’s not driving value and thus not making money. I think a full 64 team P5 tournament would be interesting (OU missed the tournament and beat #1 seed Alabama) but admit that even simply reducing it to FBS+Big East would still improve everything despite it allowing final four possibilities like this year. I’ve seen proposals of requiring conferences to “pay to play” in the tournament. Make it a money losing proposition for those single bid conferences. To break even, you either need two bids or to win a single game. This would likely drive out most of these single bids leagues and allow those like the Big East, WCC, A10 to remain.
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Agree somewhat, but getting back together with their regional foes like Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse, and Virginia Tech will appeal more to their fans and admin than playing K State and Texas Tech. Also the more teams the Big 12 adds West of Colorado the more you strain their travel budgets and non-revenue teams. Just like the discussions we’re having about USC/UCLA, jumping more than 1 time zone is difficult so trading away Eastern schools for those West of (or near) the Mississippi will likely help both conferences. The money would have to be close, but I could see them making a switch if its less than $10 million a year difference.
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