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Does immamac still require noobs to post their pay stubs? Or what that just an old blacklab rule on the shag?

I agree with the exposure issue, but as you said, outside of the player awards the beauty pageant is over with a 12 team playoff. I disagree with the above. The B1G has 3 exclusive broadcast windows on FOX/CBS/NBC for 3 games and 3 games on BTN. That leaves 2 games (picks #4 & #5 of the week) to FS1. The #4 B1G game of the week is likely good to go on FS1 in the afternoon or primetime windows, game #5 not so much. A solid way to increase the value of game #5 is to utilize the dreaded Late Kick which increases the ratings for lesser content since there isn’t much competition. Getting a #5 game with USC/UCLA at home (when possible) and slotting it into the late window helps FOX/FS1 draw far more viewers than running the #5 game during afternoon/prime kicks. I think USC/UCLA are going to see why the Big Ten makes money soon. Yes Ohio State or Michigan or Pedo (the ones that were excluded from the failed streaming deal) AT USC will be Afternoon/Prime but how about when you guys host the bottom dwellers that make up the other half or your new conference? Rutgers Maryland Indiana Purdue Northwestern Illinois Minnesota Iowa Assuming you don’t pull one of these as a rival (and they aren’t ranked) you’re still looking at three home games a year (two of these plus a weak OOC game) automatically relegated to the Late window and UCLA will see the same. BUT that’s only 6 games a year in a 13 week season. Without adding UO/UW you’ll likely see occasional games against Michigan State, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and possibly even the UCLA game pinned to that late window depending on how bad they are. Adding UW/UO give you 4-5 more games (since OOC play overlaps) which rounds out 10-11 games versus the dregs of the B1G before FS1 even gets to the Big12 (which likely pulls the 4corner schools) or B1G West Coast v B1G West Coast games. Taking these 2 schools will have a ripple effect which allows FS1 to increase the Late kick P5 candidates from 3 (USC/UCLA/BYU) to 9 which significantly decreases their demand on USC. So as is, I see USC playing in the Late window around 4 times per year regularly, with UO/UW that decreases to 3 and if they go full academia orgasm with Stanford/Cal too you’re probably looking at just 2 a year even if the BTN decides to add a Late window game with the additions since those would be regularly filled by the other West Coast teams.

Noon- SEC/B12/ACC on ABC/ESPN, B1G on FOX 230/3- SEC on ABC, B12 on FOX, ACC on ESPN, B1G on CBS, and ND on NBC (6-7 times a season) Prime - SEC/ACC/B12 on ESPN/ABC, B12 on FOX (after the MLB ends), B1G on NBC Late - B12 on ESPN Unless they can convince NBC to carry a package of games on weekends when they don’t have ND home games, the PAC12 is basically signing up for a heavy load of late night games (which their fans bitch about for some stupid reason) and a very crowded Primetime on ABC/ESPN that already has 3 P5 conferences to chose from, and a single slot on ESPN where they have a 50/50 chance against the ACC. The Big 12 won. Unanimous decision. They have what appears to be a guaranteed spot on FOX at 230 for the 1st/2nd game of the week and opportunities on ABC/ESPN at noon and ABC/ESPN and some FOX at Prime Time. If the PAC gets similar or even slightly more money from a deal with NBC/Disney and a streamer like Amazon/Apple (a deal which would be amazing, all things considered) they won’t be better than the Big12. Even if they survive, the lack of exposure and interest from the losing the LA schools will cause them to wither and fade while the new Big 12 will surge.

That’s just the store you stop at when you need and 1 to 2 items, not a full cart of shit. It’s just a real small store. Most of us in the area drive past it on our way to the Lakeline or Parmer/McNeil stores.

I mean Saban is not wrong. They are the only school playing 3 opponents with national championships in the BCS/CFP era. That being said, Alabama benefited every year since Saban got their by playing a weak ass Tennessee game while the other helmet schools that won titles played each other LSU/UF UGA/Auburn. It’s pussyshit to benefit from that arrangement for over a decade and then now bitch about it because Tennessee is suddenly good for the first time ever since you’ve been there. At the end of the day this is all about money and I don’t think Bama is going to get out of playing LSU annually (which is what they are really trying to accomplish here).

https://www.yahoo.com/now/college-football-attendance-rankings-2023-043844848.html Not game by game but this is an aggregate. https://www.yahoo.com/now/college-football-attendance-rankings-2023-043844848.html

Years ago when going on a family vacation, my crazy aunt brought her huge ass purse (like big enough to fit a bowling ball plus some) and it got flagged for extra screening. They pulled out 2 pairs of scissors and 4 knives. She was just laughing like it was a funny game. We didn’t know if she did it intentionally or if she just always carried around shit like that in her bag. Once we got to the island she proclaimed that they missed two of her knives.

Between Oklahoma, Missouri, and Arkansas…I think they got it covered.

People don’t like to watch the home team lose.

Oregon State is basically K State without any football success and in a worse time zone. The state of Oregon is small, has very little recruiting or market value and the ducks basically dominate that market. Washington State is a little better, but their stadium is the smallest at 32k by 8k seats. In this instance, the Big 12 fans are right.

Yes, if you’re adding from the G5 (or adding schools like Maryland and Rutgers) you are diluting your product. Full Stop. Big12/PAC12 merger dropping WVU and Baylor (or Oregon State) would have been the best scenario, but the timing just didn’t work out.

Confusing premise is confusing. Big 12 pre TCU/WVU w/o UT/OU… Would have been the PAC12 adding Kansas, Iowa St, Oklahoma St, and TX Tech to get to 16. USC/UCLA bolt and then they add TCU and Houston.

Obviously attendance is reported by the schools, but unless you have the fire marshals reporting the turnstiles at every game it’s the best we have. aggy reported 90k attended their UMass game that looked to barely have 20k, but the official statistics are the official statistics.

Georgia Tech won their last national championship in 1990. Are you aware of this team that plays in College Station, TX ?????

Rarely outside of big games but they average 45k attendance around 70% of capacity of the off campus facility. Again Miami only has 12k undergrads so they do pretty well if you compare them to private schools: Elite (60k): USC, ND Good (40k): Miami, TCU, Baylor, BYU Fair (30k): Stanford, Northwestern, Syracuse, Boston College Bad (20k): Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, SMU, Duke Real Bad (15k): Rice, Tulane, Liberty, Tulsa

No, they will raid the MWC. NCAA tournament payout and Bowl contracts still make the entity of the PAC12 more valuable. They’ll grab the best 8-10 MWC/AAC schools and the MWC will be back filling with UTEP/NMSU and anyone from CUSA/FCS that will join…same as it ever was.

27k 46% of their off campus stadium with an enrollment of 22k students. Meaning they pull in more fans than their student body.

The Big 12 should definitely invite Liberty then…having a huge enrollment isn’t always a good thing and comparing them to aggy is laughable. aggy (occasionally) fills up a 100k seat stadium while UCF averages 35k in attendance which is only 80% of their new smaller capacity stadium. Yes better opponents will help but that’s not a great sign. It’s a gamble. The Big 12 is gambling that UCF will be able to consistently compete at a higher level and actually get a large portion of their students/geographic area to start caring more about UCF/mostly out of region B12 football OVER UF/SEC and FSU/Miami/ACC…that’s not a sure thing and in many ways despite its huge enrollment, UCF is still very much a little directional school.

Yes they are huge and in a big market with a fertile recruiting ground but I’m just thinking about the line up of the new Big 12 schools especially with the 4 possible PAC additions. 5 Flagship Universities 4 ‘States’ 1 Tech 3 private schools 2 big city U and 1 directional U Just seems like an odd fit when you line up all the pieces even without looking at the geography. And no this isn’t just a hindsight thought. That being said, it’s impressive they cracked the glass ceiling and were the first directional U in the P5 (USC doesn’t count).

Am I the only one that thinks the Big 12 made a big mistake by taking UCF over Memphis? UCF is like a weird appendage in the new Big 12.

Agree, historically UCLA is not even in the top half of the new Big Ten. They are more comparable to Iowa or Purdue than Michigan State or Wisconsin.

I know this link was posted before but no one noticed this… https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/03/alabama-coach-nick-saban-not-fan-proposed-2024-opponents-sec-schedule So using this aggy is the #8 team in the new SEC while Tennessee is tied for #12. You take out Tennessee and sub in aggy and everyone in the top 8 plays 2 others in the top 8 and 1 in the bottom 8 Florida: #2Georgia/#3Oklahoma (#12SC) = avg ranking of rivals 5.66 Auburn: Alabama/Georgia (Vandy) = 6.33 LSU: Alabama/aggy (Ole Miss) = 6.66 Oklahoma: Texas/Florida (Mizzou) =6.66 aggy: Texas/LSU (MSU) = 6.66 Alabama: LSU/Auburn (Tennessee) = 7.66 Texas: Oklahoma/aggy. (Arkansas) = 8 Georgia: Florida/Auburn (Kentucky) = 9 So Florida here has the biggest complaint not Bama. UF only has a single team they consider a “rival” as their new official rivals and has the toughest schedule. The rest are all near that 6.66 avg. Auburn a little tougher and Alabama/Texas a little weaker due their historic/geographical rivals. The real head scratcher here is Georgia. If they gave South Carolina/Georgia and Kentucky/Florida then Florida’s avg would be 6.33 and Georgia’s would be 8 which would shrink the range between these two by 1.66

https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/hayes-b1g-drama-trying-to-figure-out-permanent-opponents-for-16-team-super-conference/amp/ Apparently the B1G is doing the same 9 game/3 rivals/3-6-6 model as the SEC Some fun quotes here. The R8 will love the Power 4 comment. Still I don’t see how they pair USC/UCLA with Michigan and Ohio St. Unlike the SEC which will have 8 teams with recent titles, the B1G only really has 4. To match the number of big time games that the SEC is putting out they’ll have to make all these big time schools rivals but then the smaller schools would all just be rivals with each other (think Northwestern/Illinois/Indiana/Purdue all just playing each other as rivals) meaning they’d only get 1 major opponent at home each year, which doesn’t seem like it would fly.

In fairness, USC blocked any expansion since they knew they were leaving and would sign a new GOR (though Stanford/Cal likely went along with it too)

Agree but for that to happen LSU and Arkansas would have to be rivals, and in this model that is not the case.