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TKthunder2

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  1. I find it hard to believe, but I guess we’ll see, shit leaks out fast nowadays…
  2. They only need a single football playing member. They don’t need an all sports member. UConn, Toledo, and NIU I are their desperation moves. Sam Houston isn’t even on the radar.
  3. I think UTEP will finally get its MWC invite. CUSA might even waive the exit fee if they take NMSU with them now that they have Delaware and Missouri State upgrading. CUSA was looking real hard at Eastern Kentucky previously, I’m confident they’d trade the extra travel to UTEP/NMSU for EKU and shrink their conference travel costs significantly.
  4. It’s not so bad, been there many times, it’s a nice enough place for a high school playoff game, it just small for FBS. I never believed they go to FBS until the news broke. I figured with the old capacity requirements they would have to make the stadium bigger first, but those just aren’t enforced at all anymore it seems.
  5. This is dumb. They have like a 12,000 seat stadium. There is no way.
  6. Washington, Oregon, USC, Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and maybe Michigan State are all worth scheduling just for their brand/status. UCLA, Northwestern, Rutgers, Maryland are all good travel destinations. I don’t really have any desire to play Iowa, Minnesota, Indiana, Illinois, or Purdue but I assume a Big Ten fan would feel the same way about Arkansas, Mizzou, Mississippi State, South Carolina, and Kentucky. While I generally don’t like the idea of a scheduling agreement, I do think it’s probably the easiest way to get more money out of the TV networks. They don’t pay much for OOC games because most of them suck. This way they’d potentially have 16 games of interest from 25 of the top 30 brands in the sports, and would avoid years like this year’s Ohio State’s OOC schedule and last year where Georgia and Michigan played nobody OOC.
  7. Texas State would be a legit option that somewhat works geographically speaking. Stick at 8 play round robin and do 4 out of conference games. Washington State Oregon State Boise State Fresno State San Diego State Utah State Colorado State Texas State or Toledo and Northern Illinois? I’m mean for shit’s sake they could just stick a 7 and add UConn football until the 2032 when UNLV is available again.
  8. Seriously, leave the MAC alone.
  9. We’re not far off, I was mostly using your post as a way to post my own thoughts and musings. I think our only disagreement is around the term second tier. I don’t think the Big12 has any that I would permanently put in that tier with Oregon and Auburn, but on the year to year metric I could make that concession speaking of relative attractiveness of a team in a specific week/season. Last week Arkansas/Auburn on ESPN had 2.0 million viewers while Utah/Okie St got 2.1 million on OTA FOX. So a ranked undefeated v ranked undefeated over the air match up barely out drew an unranked one loss team v and unranked one loss team on basic cable. By this metric I feel comfortable enough to say the brands of Aub+Ark > Utah+OkSt when you equailze the scenario/network/etc. Which then feels odd to say they are both 2nd tier teams.
  10. Colorado is what it is. You can’t derive value out of them long term for Colorado or the Big 12. When BY presents his numbers with the Prime years included in them the first thing the networks will do is strip them out or discard those years altogether because it’s not representative of the value you’re paying for in their new contract. Now if Prime stay and finds the next Travis Hunter and continues to draw 4million viewers against FCS teams and 3 million against G5 teams for years to come then they will count. But for now those just aren’t representative. After 4 weeks, other than Colorado who accounted for every 3 million+ viewers thus far, the FOX games have driven 5 of the 10 2 million+ games. ABC 1, ESPN 1, CBS 2, NBC 1. Repeating myself but this exposure with FOX is the biggest advantage the Big 12 has. They should be doing everything they can to take advantage of it. 3 rivalry games account for that too placement on NBC/CBS, a matchup with the SEC got them on ABC. The traditional conference games will primarily end up on FOX and ESPN. The Big 12 should continue to pursue more rivalry OOC games. Bedlam, Border War, Backyard Brawl, etc would enhance and boost their profile. If the goal is a bigger TV deal next time around, this is a major opportunity toward that. Teams with 2million+ games Colorado: 4 Oklahoma St, Utah, Baylor: 2 ISU, KSU, AZ, WVU: 1 Nothing too shocking other than Baylor in this list (likely just because they played Colorado and Utah but facts are facts) The “Late” window has been used 5 out of the 6 weeks scheduled and I expect this to be a common theme for the new Big 12 when the 4corner schools play a lack luster game at home. They pull a million or so which is a good way to prop up a below average game with inflated viewership to help the overall picture. The Big 12 also has had 6 weeknight games (mostly Friday) with another scheduled for next week. Colorado’s kick off game pulled ridiculous numbers, but other than them AZ/KSU on FOX did a respectable 2.5 million while the other averaged about 1.14 million.
  11. Big 12 got a new deal with CBS for basketball. https://awfulannouncing.com/cbs/big-12-multiyear-agreement-mens-college-basketball-games.html
  12. Gonna make your wifey preggers and grab her natty tuddies
  13. PAC7 and MWC7…just so dumb
  14. If there is a Taylor Doyle celebration thread on shaggy you all should be ashamed of yourselves. I was pissed off when he made that offer.
  15. So what are the Big 12’s secondary teams that are on the same level as Oregon or Auburn? Because I can’t think of any. That’s the part I don’t agree with. In a mock draft of college football teams I think you’d see more what you call 3rd tier SEC and Big Ten team come off the board before you get to the first Big 12 selection.
  16. If they fired him, what are the odds he goes to Tulane next? It’s like he’s Benjamin Buttoning his own career reliving his greatest hits… 1983 Appalachian State 1985–1987 Tulane 1988–1997 North Carolina 1998–2013 Texas 2019–2024? North Carolina ?2024-2026 Tulane…? Appalachian State better watch out
  17. You’re correct, bad memory on my part.
  18. It’s not always bullshit, here just a few historical examples: Texas couldn’t leave aggy for the SEC back in the late 80s and then had to take Tech as a tagalong when we tried going to the Big8. Virginia Tech got into the ACC over Syracuse (who was the first choice) due to politics, and the only reason UNC isn’t suing the ACC currently is also politics. Alabama and Auburn were forced to play each other after 40 years due to the state legislature which is why even 60 years later, Auburn remained in the SEC West after adding two members West of the Mississippi River, and Missouri ended up in the SEC East despite being West of the majority of SEC West members. The State of Louisiana blocked the University of Louisiana from upgrading to FBS for year and then only allowed it if they changed their branding to Louisiana Lafayette and also upgraded along with Northeast Louisiana who they made them change their branding to Louisiana Monroe so people wouldn’t think ULL was the flagship over LSU and because Louisiana Tech was worried about being perceived as a weaker football program in the state. Just because it’s not 100%, doesn’t mean it’s not real.
  19. Then they have to play them. Not easy to kick members out. They want Utah St and UNLV but don’t want to pay that ridiculous penalty for poaching them. UConn gets them to 8 temporarily, and once that penalty expires they can poach for free and then kick out UConn since they are not a full member.
  20. The schedule was made based on winning percentage in SEC conference games (Big 12 for UT/OU) Texas face 4 teams in the top half of the SEC in winning percentages from 2012-2022: UGA, OU, UF, aggy aggy faces 4 as well: LSU, UF, Texas, Auburn OU faces four as well: Bama, LSU, Texas, Auburn The major difference in the schedule, which is impossible to take into account is which team that is normally good is not so good (UF/Aub are bad, OU/aggy/LSU are questionable) and which team that is normally not so good is having a good year (Mizzou, Ole Miss, Tennessee). Other than Auburn and maybe LSU, the top teams on Oklahoma’s schedule are still good and they caught all the not so good teams peaking at the wrong time. Other than UGA, Texas does not have any of the other historically good teams firing on all cylinders, and all the not so good teams are still not so good. The methodology is sounds and not biased, even if the outcome is unequal, but unless you’re making the schedule only 6 months in advance, it’s impossible to have balanced schedules.
  21. Yes, Air Force wants the money, UNLV agreed in principle because it puts it out there that time is ticking. SJSU, Wyoming, Reno and New Mexico ain’t getting invites. These 4 schools are pushing the other 3 for their commitment because its the only way it could force the PAC12 to merge with them. A full merger is the only way those four will be invited. If the PAC12 gets to 8 members then the game is over. UConn football is just a bargaining chip. It’s a short term filler to get them to 8 fb teams with Utah State. They could use Hawaii but they’d have to pay the MWC a fee for them. They’d have to get a basketball team but there are some easy options out there if they can’t land Gonzaga.
  22. TV market, recruiting, competitiveness. They’ve moved out of the basement and are now a solid program over the last five years or so. New Mexico, Nevada-Reno, and Hawaii have been the recent stinkers. Utah St, UNLV, and San Jose fit the mold of what the other PAC schools are. edit: 5 years
  23. This is really the best option now, if they can’t get Memphis and their pals. WSU/OSU just need to accept their new place in the MWC and enjoy their $100 million payout.
  24. They aren’t choosing to stay. They politically have trouble leaving Nevada-Reno. Rumor is Reno stopped investing in athletics after they got the MWC invite and has done next to nothing to improve. That has irritated the MWC members so they don’t want to invite them and UNLV can’t easily leave them. If the PAC gets to 7, I assume they would give UNLV an ultimatum, join now or never, which might give them enough cover to leave Reno. I’d bet if they stay on this path that UNLV will be #8.
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