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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
And yet the Sequels were worse. /facepalm -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Except we're not living in normal, hey the justice system actually works the way it's supposed to because fascists haven't completely taken over the government times, now are we? You're thinking that this case is going to have all the normal shit like discovery, legitimate chain of custody of evidence, etc. When in reality, if the people at the top running the show are bent and the judge is bent and the prosecutor is bent and the governor is bent, the odds you get a legitimate and fair trial are slim to none. Kash Patel just said during a Senate hearing that Epstein never trafficked any girls whatsoever. Said it with a straight fucking face right to some Senators. But that guy is telling you the whole truth and nothing but the truth in regards to this case? A case where he swooped down from the rafters like a cross-eyed bat to involve himself? Where the MAGA governor just rolled over and pushed the party line completely and couldn't stop slobbing Patel and the FBI's knob? Ya'll seem to not understand what world you're living in now. The Constitution essentially doesn't exist anymore. Trump and his goons violate that shit every day. The Supreme Court is just rubber stamping the ripping up of the pillars holding up our democracy. This guy is going to get Epstein'd in his cell or convinced to take a plea deal so no information gets out about all the fuckery Patel and Co. were up to. Any blips in the narrative will be hand waved away and everyone will move on to the next 10 disasters that Trump and friends cause. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Me too, man. I'm willing to concede that in stressful situations, with incompetent people, and the random chaotic nature of the Universe things aren't always going to line up perfectly. Which is kinda why the texts seem so fake to me. It's just too convenient. Robinson just spews information like he's a student giving a speech for class. He's just dumping information. This doesn't read like a real conversation. It's like a bad author/screenwriter that is going heavy on the exposition to make the plot make sense. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Obviously it's funny to laugh about his ridiculous language, especially at the start of the letter, but that really doesn't matter. The bigger issue is it reading out like a police interrogator interviewing a suspect. His trans girlfriend seems to be reading from a script. Did you do it? Confesses immediately that he did. What about the other guy who said he did it? Says nah, that was a decoy. This clears the other suspects and makes Robinson the sole suspect to the crime. Why did you do it? Says he hated Kirk for spewing hate speech. This establishes motive. How long did you plan this? Robinson confesses to planning it for about a week and goes into having to leave the gun and whatnot. This establishes premeditation. So Robinson, prompted at every turn by his partner, has given the police everything they need to nail him to the wall. Confession, clears any other suspects, provides a motive, ties himself to the murder weapon, and then establishes premeditation which means it wasn't a spur of the moment thing and thus they can charge him with the death penalty. On top of all that, the texts conveniently provide the MAGA folks everything they want from a PR perspective. Establishes that Robinson is a (in their mind) sexual deviant who is shacked up with a trans girlfriend that clearly poisoned his mind. Robinson also makes sure in the texts, unprompted this time, to talk about him engraving the bullet casings and doing it as a goof to upset/annoy the FoxNews/MAGA crowd. This establishes him as a loony leftist. Then, for some odd reason, makes sure to say his dad (who will eventually be the one to turn him in and be labeled a hero) is a diehard MAGA Trump guy. So you're telling me that this guy's trans lover doesn't know the dad is a hardcore conservative nutjob? At any rate, this clears Robinson's family and pops and further pushes the idea that Robinson got infected by leftist ideology and trans cooties to become a killer. You literally could not get anything more or better if you were a prosecutor looking to go after this guy or a detective trying to find out if this guy was whodunnit. It all lines up absolutely perfectly. It's like walking into a bar, sitting down for a beer, and then Jessica Simpson, Sydney Sweeney, and Salma Hayek all show up at the same time and trip directly onto your dick. And this isn't even getting into the contradictory parts of the texts. Why would the roommate ask if he did it if he left them a fucking note saying he was going to do it? Why would the roommate ask why he did it? If you're a trans person and your partner shoots Charlie Kirk, a well known MAGA chud who preaches hate and bigotry towards trans people, well, duh. Pretty self explanatory. Also, Robinson says in the texts that the decoy was some old man and a dude wearing similar clothes that the police interrogated. That was never reported on the news or anywhere else! All that was reported was that two dudes had interfered by claiming to be the shooter. Nothing about their clothing or anything else. So how does Robinson know this information when he's on the run somewhere waiting to try and get back to his rifle that he conveniently ditched right next to the crime scene? -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
They memory holed the fuck out of that guy. Trump is a centimeter away from getting his head turned into a canoe and it all disappeared within like a week. No information about the shooter whatsoever. No interviews with his family members or people who knew him. No social media posts from the shooter, a manifesto, or a letter to his trans furry girlfriend. Nothing. Trump wears a diaper on his ear for a few days, rides the bump in the polls, and then poof. No one on the Republican side, not even Trump, brings it up anymore either. You'd think Trump would constantly be bragging and bringing up the time he survived a near death assassination, but nope. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Even more right wingers/MAGA chuds that don't believe the official story. The Michael Savage section is particularly hilarious. Especially when he goes in on Sean Hannity. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
This greasy, slimy, felonious, sociopathic piece of shit who is your guy and a pillar of your political community also thinks the official story, including the text messages, is bullshit. https://dnyuz.com/2025/09/16/steve-bannon-not-buying-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspects-text-messages/ Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon has expressed skepticism over the text messages allegedly sent by Charlie Kirk’s suspected killer to his roommate, telling viewers of his War Room podcast that he’s “not buying the script.” “I’m particularly not buying those text messages, it just seems too stilted, too much like a script—actually, like a bad script. So we gotta get to the bottom of it,” Bannon told his viewers. “You’ve gotta get to the bottom of these groups, you’ve gotta get to the bottom of antifa, you’ve gotta see if there’s any connections to Butler,” he continued. “We’ve got a whole lot of work to do, and no, I’m not buying the script that was in the text messages.” Bannon also didn’t believe that Robinson’s primary concern in the immediate aftermath of the shooting was misplacing his grandfather’s rifle. “You just murdered the most important young person in the conservative movement, you shot him down like a dog, and you’re telling me you’re texting, ‘Dad’s going to be very upset I lost grandpa’s rifle.‘ Are you kidding me? You expect me to believe that?” -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Does Kash Patel going on Fox News and telling everything or him tweeting out "We Got 'Em!" every five seconds count as leaks? -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
There's almost no physical evidence being presented in this case. Just completely weird. You'd think they'd get the bullet, do GSR on this kid's clothes, test the rifle to see if it had been fired, etc. These are all standard gumshoe practices when investigating a shooting. Not as important to the Trump run Feds as making sure everyone knows this kid is a trans loving leftist or whatever. Another weird thing to me is how limited the online evidence is against this guy. So we've supposedly got these texts where he confesses to literally everything like the world's biggest idiot. The other evidence was him being a gamer and using Discord and the messages they got off of that app. Messages where absolutely nothing of note about Trump or Kirk or anything political is discussed whatsoever. Just that this guy pretended not to be the shooter and then later confesses to his Discord pals that he offed Kirk, says he appreciates them, and then says goodbye. Uh, what the fuck? You don't have this guy's social media? He never posted on Reddit even though one of his classmates specifically described him as a "Reddit kid?" He doesn't have an Instagram, a Snapchat, a Twitter account, nothing? Nothing about his Internet search history? Did he wipe his computer before he went to shoot Kirk or something? Or, is it that it would completely torpedo the narrative of this guy being a sweet, innocent MAGA child that got poisoned by the Left's evil rhetoric into becoming a trans loving killer if you showed what he'd actually been doing online? I doubt ol' Patel and friends would want to tell all of us that his search history is full up of Nick Fuentes videos and that the most trafficked site he goes to is 4chan. Sorry, but this guy can't just be online to play Helldivers. How in the world did he get radicalized to hate Kirk if he wasn't gorging himself on internet political content? -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Yeah, ChatGPT would have done a better job fabricating those texts than whichever boomer Fed Trump flunky did. These people are in their 20s and obsessed with memes, so much so that the shooter leaves meme messages on the bullet casings. Yet, in the texts, neither the shooter or his roomie even abbreviate anything, much less talk in online speak. Plus, the texts are what the smart detectives in the movies would call an orgy of evidence. First Robinson admits to committing the shooting. Strike one. Then he admits to leaving the gun in the woods. Strike two. Then his roomie asks him why. They literally ask him for his motive. Seems like you'd already know the opinion of the guy fucking you and living with you on an issue such as this, but c'est la vie I suppose. He admits to not liking Kirk and Kirk being a hate spewing POS. Strike three. Then his roomie, for some fucking reason, asks him how long he's been planning the shooting! It's like this roommate is a fucking police interrogator! He admits to planning it for about a week. Premeditation. Strike four. Does none of that sound suspicious to anyone else? He's talking with his trans lover and this person is just essentially reading off of a "How to Get People to Confess to Everything" manual. He also specifically refers to his trans roomie as "my love." First, that's just a weird as fuck Victorian era way of speaking that 22 year old Gen Z fuckheads wouldn't talk like. Secondly, it specifically paints the roomie as his trans lover which was the angle the Republicans were pushing from the jump. On top of all that, Robinson goes out of his way to explain the bullet casings, even saying "remember how I was engraving bullets?" Why would he bring this part up? Especially if the roommate already knows he had been fucking around with the bullets. It is terribly convenient for the Republican prosecutors though who now can tie the messages up as shitposting by a leftist who wanted to get a rise out of conservatives. Even if you don't think the messages are just out and out fabrications, it's clear they're not ALL of the messages that were sent. There are no time stamps and the ellipses indicate that they're skipping some of the texts. So in the best case scenario, they've given us a curated set of texts designed to maximally push their narrative.- 5051 replies
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Yeah, I don't think these guys are truly pushing for state sponsored killings. More just advocating for modern day lynchings by angry mobs. Love how these two imbeciles have no problem dropping the hard R in their song, either. The mask is truly off these people. The shit is just out in the open now and they aren't afraid of any repercussions. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
By the way, here is a response from the MAGA faithful over Kirk's death. Remember, it's the crazy evil leftists that are constantly pushing hate, division, and wanting to kill everyone they don't agree with! -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
You're about to get some seriously angry messages from imma and the other ammosexuals on here about how you're an idiot because he clearly just got shot in the neck. Sorry in advance! -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Hey, stop worrying about all that important physical evidence stuff! The Republican governor and Trump's podcaster FBI director have already told you what the story is. Furries! Trans! Lefty killers! Quit asking questions, citizen, otherwise you might be getting a visit. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
Sorry, but this kid absolutely was involved in some dark, far-right spaces on the internet. There's the photo of him doing the Pepe squat meme which is specifically a groyper/blackpill thing. He dressed up for Halloween riding a Trump blowup doll that was painted green to be Pepe. And him having a trans partner is also a groyper thing because of transmaxxing. The only thing right now that suggests he wasn't a groyper are these text messages where he super conveniently lays out his motive and his old man being too MAGA. Which, ironically, also doesn't clear him of being a groyper because Nick Fuentes has been bashing Trump for a long time now. These guys are further right than MAGA. They don't like Trump and they don't like the Trump lackeys like Kirk who they feel are soft on Israel and Jews in general. Again, real odd this supposedly ultra-smart guy just spills the entire plot with his motivations word for word perfect in some texts. This meme obsessed goober is writing out full sentences ending with "my love" while laying out his movements and motive so perfectly that it becomes a slam dunk to convict him? Also odd that he supposedly was able to assemble/disassemble his weapon enough to be able to hide it in his pants, but he just leaves it in the wooded area right next to campus to retrieve later. He had already made a completely clean get away. No one was looking for him. They were busy with the two fake guys, one of whom straight up said he was trying to help the shooter get away! So why dump the rifle? Take a minute, pack it up in your pants/backpack like you did before, and then continue getting away. Especially since you're so concerned about getting the rifle back to your pops/granddad. Nah, instead he decides to dump a highly obvious long rifle which is literally the only piece of physical evidence tying him to the crime in some trees right next to campus so he can go back later to get it. Then he texts his bussy to tell them exactly, word for word, what he did. Trump lackeys in law enforcement are desperate for this to be a leftist trans person who killed Charlie Kirk. Well, would ya look at that? Here's some texts where we find out he was a leftist with a trans girlfriend and they told us everything from A to Z and it all lines up exactly as we'd hoped! What a kawinkidink! Oh, the fact that we supposedly have caught this dude red fucking handed but he's not cooperating with us? Just ignore that. In fact, here's ol Crosseyed Kash Patel to tell you he's on top of everything and it's going exactly how Trump wants it go! Whoops. I mean ol' Valhalla Patel is on the case to get all the facts and make sure justice is done.. Yeah. That. -
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
"Ok, listen here son. We know you did it. All we need is for you to say is that you're a radical leftist who was desperately in love with your trans roomie. That bussy was just too tempting for you. So you shot Kirk to make your furry trans lover happy. K?" "But, but, but I'm a Groyper! I killed Kirk for a laugh and because he's a dirty Jew lov. . ." "No, no, no. Leftist. Trans. Boy pussy. Stick to the script. A heartfelt apology and remorse that you turned your back on your caring, MAGA, freedom loving family would also be a big help." "But that's not tru. . ." "And by the way, you're absolutely getting the death penalty immediately with no appeals or extended time on death row. Trump actually wants you shot as soon as you leave the court house. So, yeah. Here's a pen!" -
Maybe we get more information today that will clear some things up. Like they haven't said a peep about the actual bullet, which should be in their possession. Also nothing about whether they tested the gun to see if it had been fired or if they tested Robinson himself for GSR since they picked him up in the same clothes he did the shooting in. Seems like that would have been a quick and easy thing to do to say, yeah, this is our guy and he absolutely did it.
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
You want something that's not lazy? In my quest to understand the ballistics behind the shot and whether Kirk was wearing body armor or not, I ran into this guy. Who thinks a guy behind Kirk had a cellphone gun. Yes, a cellphone gun. https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzZakMqdKv -
Touche.
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Quit being purposefully fucking dense. It's annoying.
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So the official story (which I'm not claiming is bullshit, I'm just confused on the physics of the whole thing) is that the shooter shot Kirk from his front from the roof of that building. Except when you see the video of Kirk getting shot he moves before the wound shows up on his neck. Most people seem to think he was hit in the chest on some body armor he was wearing and that the bullet ricochets up into his neck. Hardly anyone thinks the bullet went straight into his neck because that would have ripped his entire neck apart and left a giant exit wound. There are several videos from multiple angles of the shooting, including ones where you can see the back of Kirk's neck and there is no exit wound back there. I'm not a gun guy, so maybe I'm completely off base here, but it seems to me that getting shot by a large caliber bullet from a high powered rifle in the front of your neck would leave an exit wound on the back of your neck/head somewhere. There isn't one from everything I've seen. Thus, the wound we see on Kirk's neck is actually the exit wound and he was shot from behind. OR he actually was wearing body armor that took the initial hit and the ricochet went up into his neck and thus was tumbling to create a larger wound and wouldn't have the kinetic energy at that point to create an exit wound.
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Yes, because .30 cal bullets fired from high powered long rifles hit a human's neck and leave no exit wound. Here I was thinking Kirk was a pencil necked dweeb when in reality he's got a bull neck with a muscular density surpassing that of the world's strongest men. Silly me.
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What's weird to me is the shot itself. If Kirk is actually wearing hard body armor then it makes sense. Bullet clips the armor plate and then ricochets up into his neck. But it just really doesn't look like he's wearing any body armor at all. You can see the outline of his pecs and his nips. So if there's no body armor for the bullet to deflect from what happened? He didn't just get shot directly in the neck from the front. I doubt the entry wound would have been that big and there definitely would have been a gaping exit wound. So did the bullet hit this cross he was wearing? Seems odd a .30 cal bullet you'd normally use to kill deer would be stopped by something like that. Especially considering we don't see any wound/blood on his chest. When I first saw the video of the shooting, I immediately thought he'd been shot from behind. So there would be some small entry wound on the back of his neck and it forces his body to tense up like we see in the video, then the shirt billows out and the gaping exit wound appears on the front of his neck. This guy's video seems to suggest a bullet could have come from behind him. A bit morbid but he tries not to show the blood and whatnot. I'm also not claiming any crazy conspiracy theory like Israel killed him or the shooter was a patsy or anything like that. Just find the shot itself a bit odd.
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
SpiralOut replied to msbesq's topic in Cloak Room
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Jesus Christ, Stroud. What the fuck was that?
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