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  1. I am a staunch defender of the church exemption, for churches that stay out of politics. This is
  2. The most transparent administration for shit that happened during other administrations. Let's see how transparent they are about their own shit. Early indications are poor.
  3. That was just the University. They sued a shit ton of people, including fellow students, crane and equipment rental companies. It probably wasn't a ton of money, overall, but anyone that had any kind of responsibility paid one way or another.
  4. Also, regarding Mystic, just Dick Eastland died. I believe his wife survives and various of their children and other family members have varying degrees of responsibility at the camp. And, as noted, there is a network of corporate entities involved and the land. The land. Lee Bass was offering $5-10k/acre 15 years ago.
  5. Yeah, according to the TM article on the 2011 lawsuit, the land is owned by one corporation and the camp operated by another that rents from the landowner corporation. That probably got even a bit more complex subsequent to that lawsuit, but there are some fairly wealthy entities that are going to be on the wrong end of this. At minimum, that land is hugely valuable.
  6. In establishing legal negligence, past experiences with floods will be highly relevant. But, you're right that a jury could well bang the camps pretty hard on just an in loco parentis notion. HOWEVER, the camp owners are well-known and fairly beloved in Kerr County. In the 2011 lawsuit between the local family and some "auslanders" in the family that live in Houston now, the jury decided in favor of the locals the first time around and legally screwed the pooch bad enough that a new trial was granted. It's going to be interesting and will go on for a good while.
  7. Not each, total. ~$100k/kid. The ability to recover from the county and municipalities is going to be legally limited, but you can bet they're going to sue everyone in site and probably on some novel theories that will generate cost-of-defense settlements. So, it's probably not what they'd get from deep-pockets private defendants, but I imagine its going to be healthier than $100k/kid.
  8. They'll hire good attorneys and not just on a contingent fee. There will be political pressure to change things. These will be things that not every group of random victims can do. The aggy bonfire victims are probably a pretty good analogy. Not necessarily of the wealth or connectedness of these folks (a couple were though), and they beat the bushes pretty hard for money and accountability.
  9. Yeah I figured that might be a Hunt Hunt but wasn't sure. The new sure didn't connect those dots, at least that I saw.
  10. Yeah, I went to Longhorn. Two other kids from HP in my cabin, two from Midland Lee, a St. Marks guy, and I was probably unaware enough of Houston to evaluate those guys. Ran into a couple of em at UT.
  11. Question on this. I get severe weather alerts on my phone. Is that tied to my e911 registration or whatever? Or just location data? I have kind of assumed the latter and as long as my phone knows where it is, I am getting the relevant alerts.
  12. They're all white for the same reason HPISD is all white and the SBMISD Memorial attendance zone is all white and a few other examples. It's first of all economically exclusive. Second, people of color that can afford it a) probably don't value the experience and b) don't want to send their kids to an all-white camp. There was probably a time when a person of color would have outright been denied admission to one of those camps. That's probably no longer true, but also probably rarely or never tested.
  13. I don't think people are making it about that. They are acknowledging that the Mystic girls come from some relatively powerful circles or adjacent thereto and the authorities will likely be held to account as much as possible, which may be in contrast to tragedies occurring in poorer communities. And also about the simple fact that Texas Hill Country camps are now expensive, therefore exclusive, and pretty much accoutrement of the upper class. They've been around for a long time without necessarily being that, except in the de facto sense. Apparently a lot of people are unfamiliar with the phenomenon. There's also some legitimate talk about how the current regimes in Austin and DC operate on a "government doesn't work" theory, which they usually prove in spades when they're in office without ever reducing overall government spending.
  14. Buncha NE Texas rubes giving rich fraudsters a pass because [Cloak Room]. Bet they'll happily put the hammer on some Nigerian Medicare fraudsters. Astonishing.
  15. Look, the point is not to tit for tat. This Perkins chick made an horrendous comment. Many of the same type of sentiments were expressed about browns and Katrina. And they were less isolated. It isn't exclusively one side or the other.
  16. it has become increasingly a thing of the upper class, whereas just a few decades ago, it was middle, upper-middle. And, from my observation, broad brush, yeah, it's stay at home moms-- with nannies. So not just upper class, but getting into idle rich territory. It's just another aspect of asset inflation and wealth disparity.
  17. Also worth pointing out that the Cypress Lake facility was constructed by the current, Christy, "Christian idiots" that own/run the camp today. As opposed to the less Christy idiots that built out Guadalupe in the 20s.
  18. The TM article pointed out that there was quite a bit of corporate structuring going on at Mystic for tax and liability purposes. But you'd have to think the property would be at risk in any event. Also, Lee Bass is a neighbor and had offered to purchase chunks of the land to buffer his own property. Another nearby longstanding Hill Country camp, Arrowhead, just flat sold out because of the property value. From a purely "business" standpoint, it will be interesting to see what happens.
  19. No, it's not that specific, but the dog whistle is pretty clear. And if you really want evidence of it you can scour the internet for it and you'll find things just as scurrilous as what Sade Perkins said in an X comment or whatever it was.
  20. If you know anything about it, you know it's really not a "church camp," no matter what it says. Church camps are Pine Cove, Sky Ranch, Mo Ranch and so on and so forth, founded by explicitly "Christian idiots" and churches. And the allegation I responded to was that churches build camps in flood plains. Everyone builds camps near water, pretty much, it's kind of the essence of camps. The idiots that found them may be Christians, but that's coincidental.
  21. Yeah, he apparently learned his ratfucking lessons from Roy Cohn very well. He's almost as much a savant at that as self-promotion.
  22. Mystic is not a church camp, despite recent descriptions. It was founded, and its location selected, by UT football coach EJ Stewart.
  23. I mean, it's been 20 years. Were you alive? Paying attention? https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9600878 That piece of shit Franklin Graham for one. Google "hurricane Katrina God's vengeance."
  24. Yeah I figured it was something like that. It's blown the fuck up over the last 50 years. Apparently so had Mystic. Seems like it's a big business now. Forty-fifty years ago, I thought it was more a labor of love.
  25. There were a not insignificant number of people, whose current political philosophies you can now guess, that said Katrina was God's vengeance on the dirty darkies and den of iniquity that was NO.
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