TwiceHorn

Well, it's ok by me for the prosecution to argue during sentencing that a "hate" motivation should enhance the sentence. So, not entirely done with it. But, I disfavor new crimes or new categories of crime that don't meaningfully differ from the old ones. Just another form of pandering by criminal law.

Haha so I turned off Mizzou OU with it tied and 3:57 left, figuring I didn't care enough to watch OT. Checked the final score. Geezus.

That's not news.

"We" have always conceded that Trump is a master of the media, particularly when it comes to currying favor among a certain sector of the electorate.

And he's a douchebag liar.

The word "legacy" is different from the word "mainstream" and may be more precise. There is no question that right wing media is rampant.

It's DEI! And CRT! Cultural Marxism! Sheesh.

Well, it's factual anyway. And, conventional media didn't label him fascist much, if ever, and certainly not enough. Edit to Add: I duckduckgo'ed "Trump fascist felon" and got a lot of hits discussing his felony convictions in a pretty balanced light. The word fascist was not applied directly to Trump in any of the articles. Meaning, things like this:

Was "an asshole" your brother?

There's that too. And the quality of reporting has deteriorated in such a way that it is impossible to determine where facts end and opinion begins. You really have to drill down to find that. AP and Reuters can be helpful on that, NPR too.

When you take away "mainstream" meaning the big networks and look at what's actually out there on the internet, you see the dominance of right-wing sources. Anytime I saw some dubious claim repeated here, or elsewhere, I'd have to wade through a dozen or two, at least, right wing sites repeating the same thing from the same series of sources. On the second or third page of search results, I might find something exposing the facts that form the basis for the dubious claim. A whole lot of people a) don't have the critical thinking skills to immediately recognize something that is badly spun if not an outright fabrication and b) to drill down and discover the actual facts. Does this happen with left-wing sources sometimes? You bet your fur. But you don't have to wade through two pages of search engine results before you find factual reporting.

Many of us are happy to discuss opinions and policy positions. Most especially when they're not presented on the basis of factually inaccurate social media or similar sources. Before this notion of truce, Stros101 came in and said a few things in earnest. He was questioned about the factual basis for them, quite civilly and failed to respond once the premises of his "opinions" were laid bare. He failed to respond to most of those pointing out the errors in his assumptions and basically began flinging poo. Poo was flung back. There was a long thread in CR hashing out immigration, which is a hot-button issue upon which reasonable minds may differ. It petered out because everything that could be said had been said. There are a few posters that bypass the debate pretty much entirely, though and start flinging personal insults immediately. The animal_tobacco guy came in and tried to express contrary opinions, debated with people, but ultimately, most of his policy positions, when reduced to bare bones, amounted to some variation of "I've got mine, screw everyone else."

Raises hand.

Yeah it is, but I wonder why. On the one hand, there's a lot of money there and a lot of education/educated. But same is true of NYC and Philly, just using east coast cities. One thing that maybe stands out, from WWII to present, it has gone from 96.6% white to 44.7%. I suppose the other standout demographic feature is that its largest white ethnic population is Irish at 14%. The wealth gap is huge, but I suspect no different than NYC or Philly.

Also, the longer I think about Was kind of bullshit. Not kind of, total bullshit. The problem, both as viewers of a TV show, and from a relationship perspective, is that you/they/everyone was so willing to accept that she'd been unfaithful.

Not trying to argue with you, just trying to flesh it out.

We hadn't dealt with their level of athleticism on defense since I guess Alabama last year. Our guys are still a tad mentally weak.

Carson Beck is wrong with their O. Etienne is solid as hell, but when you're that one dimensional, it's a problem.

I think there are significant segments of the population, mostly olds, who still think it's devil weed. I suspect that Joe Biden, as an old, thinks of it as a third rail. Probably a bunch of dustfart legislators on #bothsides think the same because of their dustfart constiuents.

But, it's not a real challenge. It's first of all a pretty rare thing and second of all an issue of sports competitiveness. It should be left to those bodies that have always regulated sports competitiveness. It need not be legislated. It should not have been a big issue in this campaign.

I think one thing is that Catherine apparently was a pretty self-made woman, creating jealousy all around her, including Robert. That was very lightly touched up on with Robert, far less so with her colleagues. Perhaps that explains why they were so quick to believe something scandalous about her.

Well, as pointed out in the pod, he didn't in 2020. Now, maybe it was that those aged 18-22 or thereabouts saw little or no progress under the Biden administration. But, as far as I can tell, neither of them really delivered on a message to that group, unless it was just pure adolescent behavior. And, of course, in addition to whatever things ail that particular generation, wage stagnation and asset inflation have been a good while coming and will take more than one administration to fix. Those are the principal drivers of that problem. ETA: I think Galloway's observation that parents of young men swung because of their sons' failures was possibly a good observation, that is a lot of "Gen X" vote. But my skepticism of Trump "policies" aside, I didn't hear anything from him that in any way directly addressed the plight of young men.

But, what did Trump really say to overgrown adolescent men? Or is it just the fact that he himself is an overgrown adolescent man that won the day?

But look at exactly how they're spiking the ball. Like fourteen-year-olds.

Not sure about the trans, but Icono apparently was seriously addicted to meth and regularly attended and participated in gay meth parties. Normally, I'd leave that alone as an amazingly candid admission from a recovering addict. But he's such a strident weirdo, it almost makes it fair game. I don't personally touch it much.