Clob94

Who's upset? I'm sitting in a meeting listening to engineers yammer and keeping myself entertained.

Russian..... right. I was born in west Texas, Dice. I was educated here at UT. 4th generation Texan. Anything else you'd like to add to the discussion?

Sticks and stones much or is this 5th grade all over again?

Sorry my man. I didn't vote Trump. I'm the objective type. You should try it as often as possible. We can strive to be objective and see both sides and discover where the truth lies (usually in the middle) or you can continue to project your partisan views on me. Honestly I can't stand either side of the fucking isle right now. Term limits for all.

Russia is a paper tiger. They don't want war with us because their only shot at retaliation is an option that they just can't afford to do.

Can I get a quote for these services? Asking for a friend......

If you think he released it all, you're a silly goose. You always hold back something. Ace of spades my man. You know this.

Biff, I've quietly observed this board for quite some time..... you can do better than this. I've seen it.

So by that rationale, even if Hillary were to have been elected, Putin had dirt on her as well. So this is a moot argument. Regardless of who was elected, Russia has the dirt.

He hasn't committed treason. Period. And every time there's an overblown reaction like yours, it simply comes off as hyperbole to anyone listening to objectivity. We get it. You don't like him. You don't like him because he beat your girl. But ask yourself This -- If the Russians were responsible for the DNC hack, what exactly did they do harm To? Donna Brazzile colluding with CNN to give Hillary debate questions? The DNC giving Bernie the shaft? Are you more angry about the Russians hacking the DNC and possibly Hillary or ate you more angry that certain people inside the establishment were exposed for the lying liars that they are? Would you have the same contempt for Russia had they hacked Trump and exposed his dirty laundry? Can you objectively answer that for me sir?

One is with vee and one is with you!!!!!!!

it's not treason. stupid and ill advised, yes. Treason is when you give actual aid to your enemy. Some would say a plane loaded down with money being flown into a hostile enemy combatant's territory and unloading said dolla bills to them constitutes treason.

Dude..... we aren't perfect by any stretch and there are shitbags of all race, creed and gender in this country..... but you think THIS is bad? I was in budapest last October on a guys trip and four of us walked into a club just off the Danube river. They were not about to let my buddy in because he was black and they expressed that he could be a terrorist from east africa. After I calmed down, I showed the dude my buddies passport and assured him he wasn't a terrorist. After the guy finally relented, I told him to go fuck himself and that we'd spend our money elsewhere. Leaving a crappy note and no tip is a Shitty thing to do...... but not letting a guy into a club because he could be an east African terrorist??? Whole other level.

Yes, I COULD assume that my language won't offend anyone or I could use a modicum of civility and not not cuss like a sailor until I knew it wouldn't offend people......

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

Belgian Trappist or gtfo!

Is that what this is all about? "Getting" people? Is that the game we've chosen to play in this country? Don't get me wrong, I could give two solid sh!ts about Nugent or Palin, but if the goal here is to try and humiliate one side or the other, that's a zero sum game. As a true centrist and constitutionalist I fail to see how playing "gotcha" with people helps anything. Is this what we've become? A nation divided into two tribes that only care about keeping score of slights? What about those of us with no tribe? I can't join the right because I don't care who marries who and I feel a woman's body is her own damn business. I can't join the left because I refuse to cave on gun registration that could one day harm law abiding citizens AND I see the left careening toward full blown socialism. So as I sit here only hands waiting on one political party to pull their head completely out of their a$$es, I must also be subjected to the daily artillery of "gotcha" tactics. It's childish and beneath us. People need to grow the fvck up.

Manafort is a POS and has been for decades. Anyone that's done any significant amount if business in Africa knows the stories about Manafort's involvement in the some if the civil wars going on over there. Between he and Kay Bailey, they armed a large swath of sub Saharan Africa. Look at the Angolan civil war. But hiring or being associated with a POS doesn't mean you've broken the law. When Manafort goes down, it's 99% likely it will be for some sh!t he did a decade ago---- and deservedly so.