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Posts posted by David Dennison
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Just now, Crusher said:
Obama allegation was proven and they got a slap on the wrist. Largest FEC fine in history.Â
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/obama-fec-violation-largest-ever/
That's nice and completely irrelevant to Donald Trump paying off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. His lawyer pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations and is going to prison for it.
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1 minute ago, Crusher said:
No I don't think so in this case. No one has just decided to impeach on the grounds "I don't Like you or your politics". You will need a crime I'm pretty sure. Hell they got Slick Willie for perjury and they still couldn't get the job done.
He's already been accused of campaign finance violations. Just wait until they dig into his business dealings.
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1 hour ago, scottsins said:
Why not? SCO’s only requirement is to give the report to the AG...that’s it. Trump CAN do all kinds of politically suicidal shit to prevent it from coming out...like firing the AG too.
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And House committees can subpoena Robert Mueller and ask him all kinds of fun questions.
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14 minutes ago, Crusher said:
Obviously not you. LOLÂ Where have you got the rest of your "news"Â or "actual malfeasance on his part" ? Evidence of a crime is still necessary for impeachment. Just because you don't like him or what he says is not a crime in this country..yet..Â
That's why Michael Cohen's plea is so damaging for the president.
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1 minute ago, triplehorn said:
For about 12 hours.Â
Trump's celebratory twitter reaction is yet another example of being too obvious. Something about the buzzfeed sourcing is clearly off, likely by design. If I had a to guess, the impact would have been greater if more time lapsed to draw others in, especially Dems in Congress, causing them to overstep before the story was revealed as not accurate in some respect. The whole event appears to be a set-up: other important people damned if SCO remained silent, SCO damned if they refute any bit of it. Ultimately the former scenario would have been far worse, and Mueller is still doing work.
And every relevant committee in the House is about to crawl up the administration's ass.
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3 minutes ago, GRHorn said:
Ok, Denny. You’re trying to parse lawyer speech.
The fact that they felt the need to say anything is bigger deal, obviously. Lawyers will deny anything based on technicalities. But they felt need to get out in front of it.Â
Because, in my opinion, Buzzfeed got the gist of the story correct.
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5 minutes ago, GRHorn said:
This is delusional thinking. There’s NOTHING positive about Mueller investigation having to come out and say any parts of the “bombshell” were false. Only reason to come out and say that is it’s egregious.
Literally, fake news.Â
They didn't say the underlying story was wrong. That's glaring.
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Just now, Crusher said:
Here is the Mueller teams statement:
"BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate,” Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller’s office, said Friday."
I can see where there might be a little wiggle room there. He didn't say the story was untrue. He just said that his office did not leak the evidence that the Buzz Feed story uses to support their anonymous sources.
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Something tells me Mueller and Geoffrey Berman (U.S. Attorney, SDNY) have had some tense conversations over the last 24 hours.
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February 7 is going to be great.
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We'll find out for sure in less than a month.
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1 minute ago, GRHorn said:
What speaks more volumes is that they felt the need to make any statement at all. Sorry, but that’s just true.Â
A statement that did not dispute main accusation in the story.
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6 minutes ago, Crusher said:
Mueller to his credit, stepped in and stopped this all this speculation about a crime committed by the sitting President. These kind of accusations laid on top of the current volatile resistance environment could actually lead to people getting hurt. We got another caravan heading north. The upcoming women's march on DC could be a disaster.
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I'm not sure that's what he did. He did not say the story was wrong.
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2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:
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p.s. REALLY.
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Do you need a Surlyhorn.com Politics Forum poster list?
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I don't think any of them think the United States is going to end because Donald Trump is president.
Donald Trump is too weak and ineffectual for that.
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3 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:
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It seems like Mueller is more pissed about the leak from the feds than anything else.
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5 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:
My money is on buzzfeed being way off.  Mueller does not break with his tight lipped protocol just to say the gist is right but some minor details are off.  Damn.Â
I think it's just the opposite. I think they issued the statement because Buzzfeed got the big thing exactly right.
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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:
This is an interesting subplot. A lot of Trumpkins are high fiving over a statement from Mueller's office. If his full investigation report paints Trump in a terrible light, they MIGHT take it more seriously now.Â
Also obviously, if Mueller's report just slaps Trump on the wrist it will only strengthen team #MAGA.Â
The statement from Mueller's office is not good news for Donald Trump.
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9 minutes ago, Incredulity said:
How can anyone who views Trump as an existential threat to the United States be fine with delay of arrest for said threats?
Who views Donald Trump as an existential threat to the United States?
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Editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed News standing behind the story.
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2 hours ago, thestud said:
I had a long, incredibly sarcastic and smarmy response typed up but I deleted it to just say this: come to work with me for a few shifts and you’ll see why Fentanyl is necessary in the medical world. Plenty of people are allergic to morphine and dilaudid, or they have bad reactions complete with hallucinatinons to ketamine. Fentanyl comes with none of those. It does come with a faster onset, shorter duration of action and less provocation of hypotension than morphine.
If you’re looking for things the world could have done without, I expect to see you and the rest of the gang out championing prohibition. Only 1 out of every 20 calls I go on is related to controlled substances; versus 12-13 of every 20 being alcohol related in some form or fashion.Â
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Shocking.
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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:
TIL, they built and operated these coal plants exclusively under the watch of republicans. Â Vanished like a fart in thenwind every eight years or so.
Bless your heart.
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1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:
Uhm..... of course not. These type of investigations almost never talk, they're not going to go line by line now. Â
For them to say anything speaks to the gravity of the situation and that portions of the story aren't true. How much and which parts is for everyone to speculate about...
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The fact that they did not take issue with the major thrust of the story speaks volumes.
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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:
Interesting. I wonder what spurred Mueller's team to respond to this one.Â
I'm inclined to think it's because Buzzfeed got it right.
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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:
This is how we get 4 more years of Trump.
US media is under the microscope and can’t run a story like this without hard, irrefutable evidence.Â
You don't need to worry about that.
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Errbody just needs to wait for February 7.
Brexit shenanigans
in Cloak Room
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Tune in February 7th.