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Posts posted by David Dennison
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Just now, Incredulity said:
Combination of shock value and laziness.

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Just now, bad_teammate said:
It's why we need Bernie or Liz.
Either one of those will bring the other along (either as VP or as Congressional enforcer) and we NEED progressive, left leadership to join Jayapal and Omar and AOC and Tlaib in their early days of power.
And leadership will promptly tell that person to stay on their turf.
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1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:
Oh my god.
I thought Americans were dumb but my goodness, this is beyond anything I imagined.
We’re so completely and utterly fucked.
I'd love to know the results when you just ask college graduates.
I bet it's even more depressing.
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Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
They're fucking concentration camps. If they're not, please give me a proper, accepted name for what they are. Because if they're not concentration camps, then we as Americans, have created a newer, equally cruel series of facilities to house marginalized people. Freedom Camps? Will that make you feel better about innocent children dying?
I'm actually shocked some dumbass right winger hasn't suggested this yet.
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Just now, bad_teammate said:
Good point.
We need make sure that we have a majority in the House so we can vote to fund concentration camps where kids are shoved into ice lockers for only 90 days instead of 120.
The majority of the Democratic caucus agrees.
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1 minute ago, Rougarou said:
It's clearly an attempt to emotionally and psychologically manipulate by using the term "concentration camp" knowing that 99.999% of people associate it with the aforementioned and cannot draw an intellectual distinction and associate the word with it's technical definition (and she's not wrong if we were talking about academic definitions).
Which is exactly why it's brilliant politics.
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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
You put forward the right bill and make them vote. Then you name their names online and in mailers. Not only do you keep the DCCC from keeping money and resources away from challengers, you actively fund challengers to those who vote against it.
This is why we need a mass political movement. These representatives are all atomized around their hyperspecific interests (not even local interests, just whatever special interests correlate to that individual).
Carrot and stick. Pelosi has no stick.
If you're a leader with millions of Americans ready to march, you have a stick. (Look at how and why Republicans have fallen in line for Trump. They are TERRIFIED of the base.)
That's a great way to hand the majority over to the Republicans.
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5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:
They definitely use the rubes that really are racist but that’s to get their votes. The ultimate goal is money not white supremacy. Look how Trump treats rich browns vs poors. Literally lets the rich get away w murder.
As it pertains to the Republican Party you are right, absolutely. They only care about moving money upward. As it pertains to their voters, it's about race and white people holding on to fading political power in the face of changing demographics.
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3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:
Talk about fucking gaslighting.
Jesus...AOC is directly upthread defending the comparison to Jake Tapper.
No, that's not what she's doing. She's calling them what they are. They are concentration camps.
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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:
So maybe it’s time to put new people in power. Perhaps we should change how things operate.
Those new people are the ones who were going to torpedo the House bill.
I think they should get primaried. Then they might lose to a Republican because they are in a swing district.
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Just now, hobbes2702 said:
If she is unable to convince her own team that kids dying is a problem and that we shouldn’t support the funding of those killing them then she isn’t capable of being speaker at this time.
Most of her caucus voted for the bill that passed.
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2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:
Bingo.
I wish you guys were right.
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Just now, hobbes2702 said:
So she failed then. Again
Yeah, that's politics. You win some and you lose some.
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Just now, retread said:
It's a really bad sign when children are suffering at the hands of our govt, and Congress can't come together to make it stop. The subtext of the last few days in DC sounds to me like, "Stop bothering me. July 4th is coming up, and I've already checked out. I need to be out of DC by tomorrow at the latest."
That's not subtext, that's how Washington operates. It's why new members become jaded.
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Just now, hobbes2702 said:
I’m sure none of the others can beat her in an election which is kind of the point. The house continues to support her claim to speaker despite numerous failures vs this admin (and a few wins).
Someone being able to beat her though has nothing to do with their ability to do the job. I like Nancy, I think overall she’s been pretty impressive. That said she has been beaten time and again by this admin because she is playing politics.
That's because it is politics. The administration didn't beat her this time. Her own members did.
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3 minutes ago, Rougarou said:
People who are saying what is going on at our border are concentration camps...because-- did you read what I wrote?-- they are trying to tap into an innate comparison to Nazi Germany's concentration camp by using the term and then when called on it doing their best impression of the first line of a valedectorian speech, "um, well, websters dictionary defines concentration camps as..."
No. They are calling them what they are. They are concentration camps. Republicans are trying to compare them to Nazi concentration camps.
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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:
You’re taking the position that Nancy is the only one capable of doing that job. I think that we can find someone else who can do something other than give Republicans everything they want.
Your inability to question power simply because it is your teams power is a problem. Nancy isn’t perfect, she isn’t all knowing, she makes mistakes. She made a massive mistake here. If this was her first then maybe people wouldn’t be so eager for someone else but it isn’t. She continually cowers because she’s playing a political game. I think we should put innocent children over politics. I’m sure others think similarly. So why do you feel the need to defend her every action?
No, I'm not. I'd love to know who can beat her in an election for Speaker of the House. Bring it.
Also, she's playing a political game because this is politics. The House bill was going to fail. The bill she brought to the floor passed overwhelmingly.
Her only other option was to do nothing and let her members go home without passing the Senate's bipartisan bill that includes funding for children.
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Just now, ChickenSandwich said:
Exactly. She’d hadn't yet had her brother sign her up for the audition to play a congresswoman.
Wed have to interview her regulars to see if she was waxing poetic back then.
Again, you voted for Donald Trump. A man playing president.
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Just now, Hornius Emeritus said:
Who is doing this?
Exactly. Democrats certainly aren't. It's Republicans making the comparison.
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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:
Someone capable
I look forward to Rep. Capable throwing his or her hat in the ring.
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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:
Its more that I'm saying that Nancy has thoroughly demonstrated that she's ineffective against the onslaught of the GOP. She's straight up giving 4.5 BILLION to spend however the fuck trump wants on the border. Great use of taxpayer funds. Definitely going to reunite families and close concentration camps
What should she have done? Put up a bill that would fail or not put up a bipartisan bill that includes funds for the border that will pass overwhelmingly?
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4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
Younger than the silent and boomer
Gotcha. I'm glad the numbers are going up. They need to go up more everywhere. Trump is going to lose the popular vote by a lot again. It would suck if he wins the electoral college because people didn't show up.
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Just now, retread said:
If they stick with him and re-elect him, he'll get it built!
And Mexico is paying for a virtual wall.
LOL
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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
Younger generations outvoted older generations in 2018 and Millenial turnout nearly doubled.
The trend is going in the right direction, and there's a pretty simple way to ensure it keeps going, which is to choose a candidate/platform they like.
Only if you lump Gen X in with millennials and Gen Z.
I wouldn't count Gen X as a younger generation. Gen X is middle aged.
Nancy Pelosi is a badass MF and I want her to be Speaker
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They absolutely will. They'll welcome input, but they will make clear in no uncertain terms that a member of the Executive Branch has no role on the Hill other than breaking a tie in the Senate.